Qualifying Session about to start.
Qualifying results before any penalties...
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1 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:16.073 1:38.521 1:40.621 23
2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:16.393 1:38.309 1:41.026 23
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:16.500 1:39.382 1:41.496 24
4 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:16.686 1:38.010 1:42.459 24
5 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:16.271 1:39.467 1:43.501 24
6 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:16.181 1:38.731 1:43.950 27
7 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.507 1:38.659 1:44.113 20
8 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.221 1:37.365 1:44.186 18
9 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:16.352 1:39.703 1:44.889 26
10 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:15.693 1:39.729 1:45.811 20
11 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:16.516 1:39.789 15
12 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.726 1:39.933 17
13 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.481 1:39.985 16
14 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:16.265 1:40.212 17
15 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:16.685 1:40.574 18
16 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:16.426 1:40.752 21
17 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:15.988 1:41.551 18
18 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:16.741 9
19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:17.620 8
20 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:18.531 9
21 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:19.220 12
22 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:19.291 11
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:19.912 8
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:20.230
Weather is going to play a big part tomorrow.
I was really pulling for Schu and Vettel to line-up 1-2 in Germany; that would have been tremendous
Regardless, good session and setting up for a good race with Alonso, Vettel and Schumacher 1, 2, 3 respectively.
Vettel totally passed Jenson OFF the track. Stewarts better give Jenson 2nd.
Jenson knows it. Vettel knows it. The cameras show he had all four wheels off the track for the pass. If Jenson doesn't get 2nd I'll be shocked.
Jenson such a classy guy on the podium smiling and just saying it was a great race and he won't comment.
Sebastian explaining to Jenson how he had to pass him illegally outside the track to get 2nd. And Jenson, thinking, yup, we'll see what the stewarts say...
Great racing, lots of action.
It will be interesting to see what the stewards rule on Vettel's pass. I can see it going either way. Personally I think Button has a case.
I just can't imagine they'll penalize Vettel at his home grand prix.
I also read that the FIA was investigating Red Bull's engine mapping for irregularities. Not sure what will come of that?
for every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty,
many souls must be trampled - hunter s thompson
Overall a pretty interesting race and congrats to Alonso. Wish that the Kimster got better results as he was so quick during the dry portions of qualifying. As for that off-track pass, I agree that Jenson deserves P2. Like Brundle said at the very least, Seb will get penalized on the grid at Hungary.
Last edited by Gran Turismo; 07-22-2012 at 11:13 AM.
great drive alonso.
wished again for schumacher but was not to happen
wished also for kimi
mclaren picked up some speed but as far as the pass on button, either you swap their final positions but i do not see a major time penalty is called for.
not sure why hamilton was in the mix to unlap himself so badly. but it helped alonso out a great deal to keep vettel back.
New Standings in Germany are:
That's my kind of podium.
Also, I know this is just mean, but I love that Hamilton's season is falling apart. He's such a dork he'll probably quit Mclaren and then things will go even worse for him.
This 2nd place will be really good for Jenson's spirits. Hopefully he can pull a win or two more this season even if his championship is over.
I don't know. Hamilton radioing the team to say he wanted to retire after changing his cut tire and rejoining in 22nd place was a bit whiny... It's not like he hasn't charged up through the field before, so you have to wonder if it's the mental game he's losing.
Great race. Alonso is the man. Webber lost a huge chunk of points by finishing so far back and even Vettel lost out due to his penalty. Ham, well he's dropping way back without any points today.
Don't want to jump to conclusions, but it's looking more like Alonso is gonna claim another title
And when the FIA gets on RB for their mapping, it will allow Ferrari to gain distance even more. Perhaps Kimi will make it hard on Alonso before it's over??
Form is temporary; Class is permanent
Solid racing from start to finish, and a bit of redemption for Lewis to come up and pass the leaders, I'm sure he enjoyed that.
Sucks for Vettel as it could be argued either way with how Jenson went right to the edge in corner exit and even lost the back end a bit as Vettel said he was concerned about, but those are the breaks. It would have been nice for the FIA to simply get on the radio and say "give the position back" rather than slapping a drive thru despite no warning, but I'm sure Vettel will come back.
Alonso is an absolute beast. He literally controlled that race from the get-go, and I don't think either Jenson or Vettel ever had a chance; Alonso always seemed to have something in reserve. Good on him for making such an incredible comeback this year.
Here's a nice Article from Windsor about Alonso's tactics during the race:
Form is temporary; Class is permanent
What jumped out at me straight away when Vettel was in Alonso's DRS zone and Alonso picked up DRS off of a back marker (so both Vettel and Alonso were using DRS nose to tail), was that Vettel maxed out at 308km/h whereas Alonso peaked at 318km/h. I know the RBR isn't quick in the straights, but damn.
Had to watch the race on the stupid Fox/Speed feed. My god those announcers are terrible. Half the time there's more than one of them talking at once so you can't understand them, they don't notice obvious important things happening on the screen until after the fact, and when they say stupid things they never bother correcting themselves. Not to mention the 347 commercial breaks. It took me barely more than an hour to watch the race including fastforwarding through the commercials.
Hamilton's pass on Vettel was awesome. Not sure what Vettel's problem with that is. Hamilton was obviously faster at that point and he had a good chance of making some passes on the backmarkers that would have been blue flagged. Can't blame him for trying to salvage the race.
Would have been very interesting to see how McLaren would have ended up finishing if Lewis didn't get that puncture. I'm also surprised they didn't bring out the safety car to clear that debris.
Clearly, the McLaren car has seen some significant improvements and I wouldn't be surprised to see both McLarens running near the front in the next few races.