Want to know what it's like to drive one of the APR Stage III TTRS Development Vehicles? [Video]

[Arin@APR]

Here's a taste of things to come...



We just want to thank The Smoking Tire for their true Journalistic Professionalism as it's something often missed in magazines and other media outlets today. They were completely unbiased in their review and we were not even asked to cover their expenses. They were a class act operation and if anyone has the chance to work with them in the future, I say go for it.

[Marty]

Sounds pretty good to me! Except for the part about not being available for 4-6 months...

The guy in the video also mentioned "intercooler stuff"?? Do tell...

[Arin@APR]

Not ready to tell all yet.

[Marty]

Not ready to tell all yet.

More hardware pics!

[rblGTI]

Ugh...this makes me want to abandon my GTI and go Audi.

You guys take my breath away

[O2VW1.8T]

I guess i'll be saving my pennies for a TT RS with a STG 3 kit.

[Dan.S]

Ill be first to say im in... for an estimate of say $10k... I can play all day. keep me posted as ill be moving into my home in Phoenix area around end of August.

[Marty]

Ill be first to say im in... for an estimate of say $10k... I can play all day. keep me posted as ill be moving into my home in Phoenix area around end of August.

Psh, you're in line behind me!

[Dan.S]

NU-UH, I called Dibs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joneze93tsi]

Not sure how much more teasing we can take.
I got a bad case of Stage3 Blueballs...

[bigstu]

0-60 in 2.8sec!!! Thats what I'm talking about!

[bsmack]

So let's say I decide to get Stage 1 when I'm at h2oi. Will that be a waste of a grand if I decide to get this kit once it's released?

[Arin@APR]

So let's say I decide to get Stage 1 when I'm at h2oi. Will that be a waste of a grand if I decide to get this kit once it's released?

I wouldn't say so. The kit's still a bit away from being a full production piece so the ECU upgrade makes sense in the mean time. Also, if you take a look at our website, I just added some of the stage 2 figures, which bumps you up to 430 HP. The exhaust will be required for the kit, so it would make sense to get it and the chip.

That's what I did before I upgraded my turbo on my own vehicle while I was a customer.

[jpkeyzer]

Truly amazing! Congratulations APR! A true testament to this unbelievable engine!

[4RingFanatic]

Can you give us a ballpark cost?

[Arin@APR]

Can you give us a ballpark cost?

I can't release that info yet, but I don't think it will be as expensive as everyone thinks.

[Marty]

So let's say I decide to get Stage 1 when I'm at h2oi. Will that be a waste of a grand if I decide to get this kit once it's released?

If your question is: "is it a waste of a grand", I think Arin gave you his impression. I'm sure it's a ton of fun.

If your question is: "what is my Stage 1 tune worth when I go to upgrade to Stage 3", then the answer is... $0. You can't transfer your Stage 1 tune to another car (so you can't re-sell it), and you don't get a discount on Stage 3 for already having Stage 1.

That's pretty much the only reason I'm not running a Stage 1 now myself...

The exhaust will be required for the kit, so it would make sense to get it and the chip.

Arin, won't Stage 3 have its own specific downpipe given the new turbo / manifold (making the downpipe of the turbo-back RSC exhaust for Stage 2 cars incompatible)?

[jpkeyzer]

Arin, won't Stage 3 have its own specific downpipe given the new turbo / manifold (making the downpipe of the turbo-back RSC exhaust for Stage 2 cars incompatible)?

Arin, put another way, is there a clear upgrade path from Stage 1 to Stage 2 and then Stage 3?

Or are they 3 separate products?

[Arin@APR]

Arin, won't Stage 3 have its own specific downpipe given the new turbo / manifold (making the downpipe of the turbo-back RSC exhaust for Stage 2 cars incompatible)?

IT will have it's own downpipe, but only the front portion which will connect to your existing APR downpipe or turboback system.

[Marty]

IT will have it's own downpipe, but only the front portion which will connect to your existing APR downpipe or turboback system.

C'mon, it's gotta replace this piece! Umm... where's the cat? Speaking of, any chance you'll have a version of the Stage 3 downpipe that will bolt to the stock twin-mid-pipe?

[Dan.S]

I can't release that info yet, but I don't think it will be as expensive as everyone thinks.

We see what you did there............

[JohnLZ7W]

C'mon, it's gotta replace this piece! Umm... where's the cat? Speaking of, any chance you'll have a version of the Stage 3 downpipe that will bolt to the stock twin-mid-pipe?

Yeah it's a totally different setup. The Stage3 uses a (beautiful) downturn that takes care of moving the exhaust gas 90^ without having to utilize a bent pipe. Keeps the internal passage larger with better flow characteristics.



http://www.ttforum.co.uk/forum/viewt...6171&start=105

[Dan.S]

Good gollie gosh, that picture is worthy of a tear shed of pure joy and future world happiness!

[bsmack]

If your question is: "is it a waste of a grand", I think Arin gave you his impression. I'm sure it's a ton of fun.

If your question is: "what is my Stage 1 tune worth when I go to upgrade to Stage 3", then the answer is... $0. You can't transfer your Stage 1 tune to another car (so you can't re-sell it), and you don't get a discount on Stage 3 for already having Stage 1.

That's pretty much the only reason I'm not running a Stage 1 now myself...



Arin, won't Stage 3 have its own specific downpipe given the new turbo / manifold (making the downpipe of the turbo-back RSC exhaust for Stage 2 cars incompatible)?

That's exactly what I was asking, thanks! If there is absolutely no cost savings for Stage 1 customers when going to stage 2/3 I'm not even going to bother. I would rather save the money or spend it on supporting mods for when I go stage 3.

[Marty]

Yeah it's a totally different setup. The Stage3 uses a (beautiful) downturn that takes care of moving the exhaust gas 90^ without having to utilize a bent pipe. Keeps the internal passage larger with better flow characteristics.

http://www.ttforum.co.uk/forum/viewt...6171&start=105

Indeed, although the bent pipe in the Stage 3 is just built into the hot-side housing. Love that thread... and here's a stock vs. Stage 3 comparison pic:

[Arin@APR]

Only the front portion of the downpipe will be replaced and included in the stage 3 turbocharger system. The rest of the downpipe will be compatible.

[joneze93tsi]

Arin, can you confirm if there are any calibration differences between Stage 1 & Stage2 besides coding out elimination of the primary cat?

[Arin@APR]

Arin, can you confirm if there are any calibration differences between Stage 1 & Stage2 besides coding out elimination of the primary cat?

Yes, there are calibration differences.

[Dan.S]

You know, glad I'll have a good 3-4 months before I get my TTRS back to Arizona from Italy... That way as soon as I do, I can buy this kit when it drops!


PS : what can I do to guarantee that I have the first (or damn near as close as possible) kit available public???????

Let me know. Money talks and walks!

[joneze93tsi]

Yes, there are calibration differences.

You've got a PM..

[dubbinitmk6]

How much do I need to save up?! Is an aftermarket intercooler necessary also?

[LynxFX]

Great video. I'm really starting to warm up to The Smoking Tire.

I had no idea you could get this much power out of the TT-RS.

[Dan.S]

How much do I need to save up?! Is an aftermarket intercooler necessary also?

I would say close to $10,000 to be safe...


Intercooler is a must, why would you even ask with a kit pushing double the stock power?

[Marty]

I would say close to $10,000 to be safe...


Intercooler is a must, why would you even ask with a kit pushing double the stock power?

The video says APR is working on "intercooler stuff", so I'm assuming some sort of intercooler upgrade will either be included or optional direct from APR.

Though it's going to be hard to beat the quality of the AWE TT-RS intercooler...

[4RingFanatic]

Pardon my ignorance since I only know enough about cars to be dangerous and stage III tuning is a new concept to me but I have some questions:

Does changing the turbo affect the lagginess? The guy in the video said this car experienced turbo lag until 3,500 rpm but I've seen reviews of the OEM version and they said there was virtually no lag since the turbo was bolted directly on. Why does that make a difference and why aren't all turbos designed that way if it eliminates/minimizes lag?

Is the 2.8 second 0 to 60 time from running pump gas or race fuel? Was this on a car with the manual transmission or DSG? And if the turbo doesn't really kick in until 3,500 rpm, how can a car accelerate that fast with so much lag?

TIA