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    Thread: Good RPM for launch control

    1. Member Sn0wMaN's Avatar
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      07-19-2012 03:31 AM #1
      Plan on getting UM flash soon and was wondering what is a good launch control rpm to be set at, I don't race much and my current plan is basic bolt ons and cams, oh and flash is coming with flex fuel upgrade.
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      07-19-2012 10:29 PM #2
      Wow no love at all??
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      07-23-2012 10:07 PM #3
      I would personally set it somewhere between 3 and 4k rpm.

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      08-01-2012 11:15 PM #4
      5k ftw, but i wouldnt do it to often on oem clutch. I would upgrade if your planning to be launching every second on your way to the store. I just got my UM flash. I launched it at 32rpm, this will explain<----- but it took off, grabbed and then went. I did it at 5k, perfect. Ask around from what i have been reading 5k is the magic number.
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      08-02-2012 12:07 AM #5
      You talk about upgrading clutches but I read about FI cars with 600+ hp using oem clutches, even after trying aftermarket clutches.
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      08-02-2012 12:11 AM #6
      This for dsg btw
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      08-02-2012 09:01 AM #7
      Read what cts said about the clutch for the their stage 2 and 3 turbo kit that putting out 400-500whp. Ask them what happen to the clutch. Whoever is using oem clutch and putting about 600 is simply retarded. The clutch will be overworked and heated up. It just doesn't make sense using oem clutch with a car that make 600. Especially if your launching a car like that with that much power. But ask cts because they experimented with dsg and they laughed at that clutch when they were running stage 2-3.
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      08-02-2012 04:16 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by zevion View Post
      DSG came out to inspect clutches. Have been running 22lbs of boost for 570AWHP on stock clutches with UM software in the DSG. The clutches look clean after 3K. A new set was put in anyway because it was already apart (for the 5th or 6th time). Getting ready for WiTW. New modular wheels are coming, plus a major engine bay clean up (and dress up).

      Here's the DSG after removal.

      Guess he's retarded! It's post #108 in the zevion R32 stage plaid thread
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      08-02-2012 06:10 PM #9
      I'll be questioning this.
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      08-05-2012 09:54 PM #10
      Brian, feel free to ask questions...

      There is no reason (so far) to change clutch plates on the DSG. We're holding 570+ ftlbs to the wheels.
      Some cars over 2 years.

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      Funny how launch control and NLS were gimmicks when Matt bought it to med9.
      Now others are using it to make people think the sun shines out of their 4$$.

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      08-05-2012 11:02 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Jefnes3 View Post
      Brian, feel free to ask questions...

      There is no reason (so far) to change clutch plates on the DSG. We're holding 570+ ftlbs to the wheels.
      Some cars over 2 years.

      Jeffrey Atwood
      Thanks for getting to me. Now Are you sure. Because one of my buddy at Vw had to change the clutch and he's putting out 470ftlbs to the wheels. He drove it and it slipped from 1-2-3 and sometimes 4. And I was talking to the nice people at cts, and they had similar situation. How does your transmission manage to hold 570? Thats what I'm stuck on.
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      08-14-2012 01:11 AM #12
      FT / LBS to the wheel is HP.. LB/FT is TQ...So which is it? So those who make upgraded DSG Clutch Packs are crazy? Or can they withstand 700+ LB/FT TQ?
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      08-14-2012 08:38 AM #13
      There's a reason why they make upgraded clutch packs. I'm just trying to figure out how they managed to hold that power with oem clutch. because my friend had to replace his the moment he put in his stage 3 turbo from cts
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      09-23-2012 03:11 PM #14
      Its because Jeff's software is the bisniss. That's why cars on his software can hold the power.

      Yeah, that just happened.
      @jayyyw

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      09-24-2012 07:57 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Lolasaurus_Rex View Post
      Its because Jeff's software is the bisniss. That's why cars on his software can hold the power.

      Yeah, that just happened.
      Invalid. That's like saying updating your iPhone 2g will give you 4g or lte.

      What?!?!?.....that just happened

      Ps I'm not hating on Jeff I can't stress that out enough, I have a um tune I love it. But the numbers just don't add up.
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      09-24-2012 09:45 PM #16
      Well, what's the one difference between Jeff's customers cars and other cars on different software?

      Valid.

      I don't know what an iPhone is.
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      09-25-2012 08:27 AM #17
      When you flash or update software it doesn't automatically increase the capabilities. So are you saying that if I drop just a bt in my r, dyno shows 600tq, I dont need an upgraded clutch I just need the software and the stock clutch will be able to hold it? Good deal, I'll save money that way then.
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      09-25-2012 12:23 PM #18
      I didn't say that. Jeff's software raises the clamping pressure(among other things) for the clutches that allows them to hold the power.

      You asked the question and I answered it. Whether or not you believe it is now up to you.
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      09-25-2012 08:57 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Lolasaurus_Rex View Post
      I didn't say that. Jeff's software raises the clamping pressure(among other things) for the clutches that allows them to hold the power.

      You asked the question and I answered it. Whether or not you believe it is now up to you.
      Yeah, you pretty much implied that. Well, i guess were not on the same page then. I keep doing research then. Thanks
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