New AMD build thread

[CaptainQualude]

Just a teaser until I get the pictures sorted.

Starting point.



With minimal tweaking.

[CaptainQualude]

These sticks are run @ rated speed @ 1t!!



FX-8150 in place.



EK CPU block & EK board block.



EK heatsink for 990 SB, black piece on the bottom left.

[PhReE]

Very nice. Is that overclock prime stable? Between the CPU and VRM waterblocks, you should be able to get some pretty good voltage and a nice stable OC. That UD7 should have pretty good VRM's too.

Typically if you have one stick per channel you can always run 1T, only when you go to two sticks per channel do you have to sometimes drop back to 2T.

I am definitely an Intel guy myself, but thats a pretty sweet build.

What are you doing for video and storage?

[CaptainQualude]

Very nice. Is that overclock prime stable? Between the CPU and VRM waterblocks, you should be able to get some pretty good voltage and a nice stable OC. That UD7 should have pretty good VRM's too.

Typically if you have one stick per channel you can always run 1T, only when you go to two sticks per channel do you have to sometimes drop back to 2T.

I am definitely an Intel guy myself, but thats a pretty sweet build.

What are you doing for video and storage?

I haven't run Prime yet. I'm sure it's got some more in it, but I didn't really make much of an effort to OC it yet.

I have a pair of ASUS DirectCU Top HD5850 & a RevoDrive3-120 GB in a PCI-E slot. I still want to OC the VC's. They have a lot of headroom from stock.

Other than the CPU, MB, & EK blocks, everything else is being reused, including the water cooling system.

[theBOYER]

Very nice! Are you planning to w/c you GPU's too (secondary loop)?

[CaptainQualude]

Very nice! Are you planning to w/c you GPU's too (secondary loop)?

No plan to do it now, but you never know. It would mean mounting another loop. I could get creative to find the room for it, but would have to start mounting the radiators in stacks. It can become a very expensive hobby.

The VC's are theoretically capable of maxing out the ASUS SmartDoctor software before actually maxing out their OCing overhead. I'm going to try the MSI Afterburner software also.

SH*T!! http://www.swiftech.com/mcr320-qp-stack.aspx I could pick up 2 of those on the cheap!! Maybe I should quit while I'm ahead?

[PhReE]

Wow, that is a good price on the rads, heh. Quit now? Haha it never stops!

[morbs_gt]

Watching

[CaptainQualude]

Wow, that is a good price on the rads, heh. Quit now? Haha it never stops!

I think they are closing out the leftovers. They were the result of a forum asking for that type of set-up, Swiftech stepped up & produced them, & now it's no longer being produced. They are a unique product. You just plug them into each other until you have what you want, add fans, & then the barbs go on the outside radiator.





It gets complicated with the fans & shrouds. A double stack could have 3 rows of fans pushing & pulling air through the stack. The 2 pictures above have the basic single fan row set up, but more can be added to the outsides.

[theBOYER]

almost seems more worth it to have one of those external cooler things you showed me

[CaptainQualude]

almost seems more worth it to have one of those external cooler things you showed me

Was it the water chiller?

[theBOYER]

Was it the water chiller?

yeah

[CaptainQualude]

This is the only English review of the chiller I am aware of.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/coo...iller-review/1

Performance PC's in Florida sells it, so there are probably other US retailers too.

[Power5]

Not quite sure how that rad stack works. I have to assume there is something in the end caps to direct the water or it would just flow straight through the barbs on the first rad and only use the second rad. Would make sense if the inlet was on the top rad and the outlet was on the bottom rad, but I just don't get how it works as pictured.

[PhReE]

Not quite sure how that rad stack works. I have to assume there is something in the end caps to direct the water or it would just flow straight through the barbs on the first rad and only use the second rad. Would make sense if the inlet was on the top rad and the outlet was on the bottom rad, but I just don't get how it works as pictured.

If you have enough flow the back pressure in the second rad will cause flow thru the first rad. This technique also slows the water down giving it more time to cool in the rad.

[CaptainQualude]

Not quite sure how that rad stack works. I have to assume there is something in the end caps to direct the water or it would just flow straight through the barbs on the first rad and only use the second rad. Would make sense if the inlet was on the top rad and the outlet was on the bottom rad, but I just don't get how it works as pictured.

If you have enough flow the back pressure in the second rad will cause flow thru the first rad. This technique also slows the water down giving it more time to cool in the rad.

Makes sense, but might be tougher to bleed the system.

[BRealistic]

Hmm... so what do you need this much eight core power for?
You running Mars trip simulations for SpaceX?

No.. seriously.
Is this just like a dyno queen car that is never raced... do you have a need for such power?
Or is this about bragging rights?
And I am not "hating" on your build of OC.
Just trying to figure out this OC thing.

[CaptainQualude]

Hmm... so what do you need this much eight core power for?
You running Mars trip simulations for SpaceX?

No.. seriously.
Is this just like a dyno queen car that is never raced... do you have a need for such power?
Or is this about bragging rights?
And I am not "hating" on your build of OC.
Just trying to figure out this OC thing.

I have 2 systems, one primary, & one secondary which is the hand me down everyone else in the house uses. The secondary system was an Intel quad-core that the MB died on. It's old enough at this point that the CPU & MB are obsolete, & the MB is no longer available anywhere. For $500 in parts I did an upgrade for myself, & passed the 2 YO system I was using on to the secondary system. It comes down to $500 for current technology, or a store bought $500 system that was obsolete 3 years ago. The speed difference is very noticeable in just doing everyday tasks. Anybody who tells you otherwise is full of sh*t.

[PhReE]

Hmm... so what do you need this much eight core power for?
You running Mars trip simulations for SpaceX?

No.. seriously.
Is this just like a dyno queen car that is never raced... do you have a need for such power?
Or is this about bragging rights?
And I am not "hating" on your build of OC.
Just trying to figure out this OC thing.

Some peoeple, like the OP, and I, can actually tell the difference between a normal persons 2-3Ghz computer and a highly overclocked 4-5Ghz computer, just moving thru windows and surfing the web even. Frankly most stock cpu's piss me off because they are too slow. THere are so many places a web browser can lag and does lag on a 3Ghz cpu you would be surprised.

It's just like driving a 450+Whp FWD car. I love my VRT too

[CaptainQualude]

Some peoeple, like the OP, and I, can actually tell the difference between a normal persons 2-3Ghz computer and a highly overclocked 4-5Ghz computer, just moving thru windows and surfing the web even. Frankly most stock cpu's piss me off because they are too slow. THere are so many places a web browser can lag and does lag on a 3Ghz cpu you would be surprised.

It's just like driving a 450+Whp FWD car. I love my VRT too

When I'm at a friends house, it's always, WTF is wrong with your system? When they use one of mine they are left speechless & sometimes drooling. ;-) OTS systems have a purpose, like when you are trying to kill time at work.

[PhReE]

When I'm at a friends house, it's always, WTF is wrong with your system? When they use one of mine they are left speechless & sometimes drooling. ;-) OTS systems have a purpose, like when you are trying to kill time at work.

Haha no kidding. I really hate using my work laptop after using my 4.8Ghz 3930K, but hopefully that laptop will be replaced soon. Although I usually end up upgrading my machines at work in some way eventually anyways heh.

[CaptainQualude]

Haha no kidding. I really hate using my work laptop after using my 4.8Ghz 3930K, but hopefully that laptop will be replaced soon. Although I usually end up upgrading my machines at work in some way eventually anyways heh.

I wanted to buy a bare-bones laptop years ago & nobody had one, bought an OTS laptop, & then you know what happened within a year, OCZ came out with one. When the OTS laptop died I went looking for the OCZ, & they had been discontinued.



This is what it looked like when I first opened the box, and in original passive air cooled form.



The MX-4 TIM & the bundled leads to clean up the secondary system case with 90° HD connectors.

[PhReE]

Clevo/Sager still make/sell barebones laptops. You can get them here http://rjtech.com/shop

[CaptainQualude]

Clevo/Sager still make/sell barebones laptops. You can get them here http://rjtech.com/shop

I'm pretty sure MSI does now also, but not in the market for one anymore.

[PhReE]

I'm pretty sure MSI does now also, but not in the market for one anymore.

Yeah, that company sells the MSI barebones chassis too. Pretty cool lil site

[Power5]

If you have enough flow the back pressure in the second rad will cause flow thru the first rad. This technique also slows the water down giving it more time to cool in the rad.

Is that a better setup than doing as I said? Cap the one in between barb and just use the other to transfer from one rad to the other. Only real problem is tubing routing would be a bit harder since barbs are on opposite sides of the huge rad stack.


OC computers are definitely a noticeable difference for me. Also, why not OC to get better than intel 6 core performance out of my $199 2600k?

[PhReE]

Is that a better setup than doing as I said? Cap the one in between barb and just use the other to transfer from one rad to the other. Only real problem is tubing routing would be a bit harder since barbs are on opposite sides of the huge rad stack.


OC computers are definitely a noticeable difference for me. Also, why not OC to get better than intel 6 core performance out of my $199 2600k?

Well essentially all you need to do is hook them up like they are in the pic and have a big pump and then 2-3 sets of fans and it would work great.

[CaptainQualude]

Is that a better setup than doing as I said? Cap the one in between barb and just use the other to transfer from one rad to the other. Only real problem is tubing routing would be a bit harder since barbs are on opposite sides of the huge rad stack.

There are so many fittings available that something could be rigged up to work, even if it meant crossing the flow over to the second radiator with 90° fittings, & then crossing it back over when it exits.

Well essentially all you need to do is hook them up like they are in the pic and have a big pump and then 2-3 sets of fans and it would work great.

Lots of fans adds expense & noise, but you do what you have to to make it work.

[PhReE]

Lots of fans adds expense & noise, but you do what you have to to make it work.

Yeah, but I am a lot less sensitive to fan noise as most people. I have some mild PWM delta 120's on my H80 for my 3930k, they are pretty quiet when its idling, but certainly kick up some noise if it is cranking on something.

[CaptainQualude]

Yeah, but I am a lot less sensitive to fan noise as most people. I have some mild PWM delta 120's on my H80 for my 3930k, they are pretty quiet when its idling, but certainly kick up some noise if it is cranking on something.

Fans have come a long way since the Delta 60mm 10,000+ RPM jet engines of the past, but I still can't deal with too much noise. I settled on 120 mm 70 CFM 38mm thick fans as to what I was willing to deal with on a daily basis, & also increased the radiator surface area.

[BRealistic]

Some peoeple, like the OP, and I, can actually tell the difference between a normal persons 2-3Ghz computer and a highly overclocked 4-5Ghz computer..

Yeah... nobody else could tell the difference.

Seriously- I was not trolling or trying to be an ass (not that I have to try).
But supercharging a new 5.0 Mustang just so it is faster merging in traffic?
IDK... seems like a dyno queen to me.

On that note- let me preface by saying I have never tried any serious OCing (that was stable enough to think it was useful).
But then again- I don't have central air/heat, so pc cooling is an issue depending on the weather.

[PhReE]

Fans have come a long way since the Delta 60mm 10,000+ RPM jet engines of the past, but I still can't deal with too much noise. I settled on 120 mm 70 CFM 38mm thick fans as to what I was willing to deal with on a daily basis, & also increased the radiator surface area.

Haha yeah, back on a socket A Athlon I had one of those with an Alpha heatsink, remember those guys..? Heh

Yeah... nobody else could tell the difference.

Seriously- I was not trolling or trying to be an ass (not that I have to try).
But supercharging a new 5.0 Mustang just so it is faster merging in traffic?
IDK... seems like a dyno queen to me.

On that note- let me preface by saying I have never tried any serious OCing (that was stable enough to think it was useful).
But then again- I don't have central air/heat, so pc cooling is an issue depending on the weather.

Well, it's almost more noticeable when you come from a fast computer to a slow one, you are like man I'm slogging through molasses, where as you might just be used to the 'slow' computer you have now and not even realize it Unlike cars on the street, a computer can never be TOO powerful

[Egilbe]

Haha yeah, back on a socket A Athlon I had one of those with an Alpha heatsink, remember those guys..? Heh

I still have a 2500+ Barton core with a Volcano 6+. It howls! Horrible noise. I can't stand listening to noise after using HSF with 90 and 120mm fans. I retired it, finally

Well, it's almost more noticeable when you come from a fast computer to a slow one, you are like man I'm slogging through molasses, where as you might just be used to the 'slow' computer you have now and not even realize it Unlike cars on the street, a computer can never be TOO powerful

QFT

[CaptainQualude]

Haha yeah, back on a socket A Athlon I had one of those with an Alpha heatsink, remember those guys..? Heh

I may have had one of those Alpha's, but can't remember for sure. I did have one of the Volcano's though.

Well, it's almost more noticeable when you come from a fast computer to a slow one, you are like man I'm slogging through molasses, where as you might just be used to the 'slow' computer you have now and not even realize it

It would be like the difference between riding a bicycle & driving a car from point A to point B. If you never were aware a car existed you would be content with the bicycle.

Yeah... nobody else could tell the difference.

Seriously- I was not trolling or trying to be an ass (not that I have to try).
But supercharging a new 5.0 Mustang just so it is faster merging in traffic?
IDK... seems like a dyno queen to me.

It's used a few hours a day year round. Definitely not a dyno queen, & anyone could tell the difference, it's that noticeable.

On that note- let me preface by saying I have never tried any serious OCing (that was stable enough to think it was useful).
But then again- I don't have central air/heat, so pc cooling is an issue depending on the weather.

OC on water & the best it will be is ambient temperature. Oc on air & it will always be above ambient temperature. There is a definite difference in room temperature between the two methods, plus air cooling is too loud for my tastes at this point in time.

[CaptainQualude]

Back on topic.



This is the one hanging off the back of the case.