Jim Henson Company ends business relationship with Chick-fil-A over anti-gay views

[DSG-TDI]

If they could make their waffle fries in the shape of swastikas Id probably just laugh.

Or just crosses.

[Manu44]

I was 100% with you until you made this point. For that reason, I won't buy a chicken sandwich from you.

I'm selling cookies...and free candy.

I'm totally for gay marriage and on top of that I'm not religious at all. I just think this whole fuss is over something that should already be known.

[Time for a GTI]

Remember when Proctor & Gamble was bank rolling Satan worshippers?

[Mike!]

They have donated millions to 'anti-gay' Christian groups.
What does that mean? The Christian wing of the Republican party? Southern Baptist Churches? The Boy Scouts?
The line seems dubiously vague.

As I recall, it's to citizen/protest groups like those that lobby companies and state governments and that sort of thing.

[VW1.8Tsunami]

Other fast food chains are speaking out about their views of gay marriage...

[ATL_Av8r]

Hmmmm.

Children's show characters.....gay sex.....it feels like there's an OT story here somewhere

Yeah, whatever happened to that episode of iCarly with the teacher jizzing on her face anyway?

[Time for a GTI]

Yeah, whatever happened to that episode of iCarly with the teacher jizzing on her face anyway?

Forgot about that one

I was talking about big bird.

[20DYNAMITE07]

Yeah, whatever happened to that episode of iCarly with the teacher jizzing on her face anyway?

I totally forgot about that!!! did it ever air?

[Surf Green]

Yeah, whatever happened to that episode of iCarly with the teacher jizzing on her face anyway?

This comment is relevant to my interests, but I'm afraid to enter the terms into google at work.

[Village Idiot™]

Would it make any difference for those of you who tolerate Chick-fil-A's intolerance if they financially supported groups higher on the hate group food chain than anti-gays? What if they financed the Aryan Nation? The American Communist Party? Neo Nazis?

A hate group is a hate group and no damn chicken sandwich is worth financially supporting those a**holes' agendas in ANY WAY.

Did someone say party?

[Shin Akuma]

This comment is relevant to my interests, but I'm afraid to enter the terms into google at work.

This.

[EGSEDAN]

Edit...and since when has homosexual marriage become a "human right" ?

Ummmm...beacuse they are human and should have the same rights as anyone else.

Remember blacks and whites couldn't marry not that long ago either.

[BRealistic]

Would it make any difference for those of you who tolerate Chick-fil-A's intolerance if they financially supported groups higher on the hate group food chain than anti-gays? What if they financed the Aryan Nation? The American Communist Party? Neo Nazis?

A hate group is a hate group and no damn chicken sandwich is worth financially supporting those a**holes' agendas in ANY WAY.

You are very intolerant to their viewpoint.
By your own definition, that makes you a hate group.

[Time for a GTI]

You are very intolerant to their viewpoint.
By your own definition, that makes you a hate group.

I think he needs one more person. Maybe two.

Would a two person hate group just be a hate pair?

[Egilbe]

[Chris Stack]

Would it make any difference for those of you who tolerate Chick-fil-A's intolerance if they financially supported groups higher on the hate group food chain than anti-gays? What if they financed the Aryan Nation? The American Communist Party? Neo Nazis?

A hate group is a hate group and no damn chicken sandwich is worth financially supporting those a**holes' agendas in ANY WAY.

Because not getting married = genocide of all your clan.

I'm not against gay marriage, but try to separate the drama from the queen, eh?

[turtledub]

I never knew that there was a relationship between the two but I figured it out. How else is the food so good?

[seymore15074]

I got a spicy chicken biscuit today just to support their classy efforts.

[Village Idiot™]

Ummmm...beacuse they are human and should have the same rights as anyone else.

Remember blacks and whites couldn't marry not that long ago either.

Marriage is not a basic right guaranteed to all living breathing human beings. It's a ceremony and title made up by a religion. It's that simple.

If gay people want to be married they should start their own church and call it whatever they want.

The only thing that would be wrong about that is if the government didn't give the gay people that were humdingered the same benefits as the normal people that were married.

[butterface]

Mmm. Just had one of their sandwiches. Drive through was backed up for days.

[Turbio!]

The only thing that would be wrong about that is if the government didn't give the gay people that were humdingered the same benefits as the normal people that were married.

Ding ding ding. The real issue isn't "marriage," it's giving privileges to some and excluding them from others. If gays (or whomever!) were able to simply designate their partner (or trusted next of kin of choice) their executor, trustee, medical POA, beneficiary, and so forth, and call their relationship what they wish, it'd be much less unfair. As it stands, male-female marriages are allowed special legal status and priveleges that are not afforded to others.

[Egilbe]

Ding ding ding. The real issue isn't "marriage," it's giving privileges to some and excluding them from others. If gays (or whomever!) were able to simply designate their partner (or trusted next of kin of choice) their executor, trustee, medical POA, beneficiary, and so forth, and call their relationship what they wish, it'd be much less unfair. As it stands, male-female marriages are allowed special legal status and priveleges that are not afforded to others.

That's cuz hetero couples can reproduce and create more slave children for the corporate overlords. Same sex marriages don't produce children so they are no benefit to the corporate overlords that control government.

Did I just post on TIGNinja's account?

[gti_matt]

If gay people want to be married they should start their own church and call it whatever they want.

We have (for those of us that are spiritually inclined).

The only thing that would be wrong about that is if the government didn't give the gay people that were humdingered the same benefits as the non-same-sex people that were married.

(FTFY BTW.)

And therein IS the problem. The federal government, and most states, does (not "if"...IDK what you mean by "if") discriminate in this fashion. Ask just about any GLBT person and nearly everyone will tell you it's a civil issue, not a religious or spiritual one.

[gti_matt]

Ding ding ding. The real issue isn't "marriage," it's giving privileges to some and excluding them from others. If gays (or whomever!) were able to simply designate their partner (or trusted next of kin of choice) their executor, trustee, medical POA, beneficiary, and so forth, and call their relationship what they wish, it'd be much less unfair. As it stands, male-female marriages are allowed special legal status and priveleges that are not afforded to others.

Mostly true. However it is about marriage in a sense because marriage is a civil and legal package deal that easily grants all of those status and privs in one fell swoop.

[Chilledman]

All I want is some damn swastika fries !!

[VadGTI]

Marriage is not a basic right guaranteed to all living breathing human beings. It's a ceremony and title made up by a religion. It's that simple.

If gay people want to be married they should start their own church and call it whatever they want.

The only thing that would be wrong about that is if the government didn't give the gay people that were humdingered the same benefits as the normal people that were married.

Hi. You're wrong.


1. Marriage has been co-opted by, but used to be separate from (and in many places still is), religion. If it's a religious ceremony, why do you need a government license? Why can it be performed by a judge or justice of the peace?
2. Please see below:

Fundamental rights are a generally regarded set of entitlements in the context of a legal system, wherein such system is itself said to be based upon this same set of basic, fundamental, or inalienable entitlements or "rights." Such rights thus belong without presumption or cost of privilege to all human beings under such jurisdiction. The concept of human rights has been promoted as a legal concept in large part owing to the idea that human beings have such "fundamental" rights, such that transcend all jurisdiction, but are typically reinforced in different ways and with different emphasis within different legal systems.

Some universally recognized rights as fundamental, i.e., contained in the U.N. International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights or the U.N. Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, are as follows:
Right to self-determination[1]
Right to liberty[2]
Right to due process of law[3]
Right to freedom of movement[4]
Right to freedom of thought[5]
Right to freedom of religion[6]
Right to freedom of expression[7]
Right to peaceably assemble[8]
Right to freedom of association[9]
Right to marry[10]

...

In American Constitutional Law, fundamental rights have special significance under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. In the language of the U.S. Declaration of Independence all [human beings] are "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, among these [being]:"
Life - (cf. right to life)
Liberty (cf. freedom, free will, personal liberty)
the pursuit of Happiness (cf. personal fulfillment, professional accomplishment, basic comforts, human pleasures, luxuries, vices)

....

While having power to neither grant nor remove an individual right, the Supreme Court has legally recognized several fundamental rights not specifically enumerated in the Constitution, including but not limited to:
The right to interstate travel
The right to intrastate travel
The right to vote
The right to privacy (which includes within it a set of rights) including:
a. The right to marriage [12]
b. The right to procreation
c. The right to an abortion during the first trimester
d. The right to private education (homeschooling one's children)
e. The right to contraception (the right to use contraceptive devices)
f. The right of family relations (the right of related persons to live together)
The Right of individual citizens to keep and bear certain arms for protection (Heller vs DC see also: McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_rights

[DSG-TDI]

All I want is some damn swastika fries !!

I sense a business opportunity here. What if OT pooled together money to start a chicken sandwich franchise that served swastika-shaped waffle fries? Our brand could be Troll Face.

[Turbio!]

Mostly true. However it is about marriage in a sense because marriage is a civil and legal package deal that easily grants all of those status and privs in one fell swoop.

It is, and the issue is that some civil partnerships are allowed access to that package and others aren't, for very arbitrary and subjective reasons.

[sirswank]

If it's a religious ceremony, why do you need a government license? Why can it be performed by a judge or justice of the peace?

if it's NOT, the why all the fuss?

[VadGTI]

if it's NOT, the why all the fuss?

Religion?

Whoa... Too circular, feeling lightheaded, must lie down...

[crashmtb]

Religion?

Whoa... Too circular, feeling lightheaded, must lie down...

[Village Idiot™]

Anyone ever read The Forever War? One day it'll be normal to be gay and us straight people will be the outcasts...that's before the clones though...and the clones end up de-gayifying people.

[caddy 2 dope]

Marriage is a religious institution.
Marriage is hell.
married people are not happy.
Gay means happy.
if gays married then they wouldn't be happy anymore.
Gays don't realize how good they have it.
I'm married. My life sucks.
My wife can legally take half my stuff.
I wish straight people couldn't marry.

[sjt1985]

I think instead of giving benefits to gay people who marry, they should take them away from straight people who marry. Why should married people get tax breaks and other benefits over single people?

[Surf Green]

Why should married people get tax breaks and other benefits over single people?

Because married people generate economic activity that is exponentially larger than the mere pittance we get in tax breaks.

That includes gay couples (especially ones that adopt)