APR Presents 2.0 TDI ECU Upgrade!

[bmw511]

I was just notified that my file is ready.... so hopefully the different revisions for you guys are coming soon :-) Tuesday is when i'll get it installed. I'll hope to review later the day

[Arin@APR]

Arin, I was at Eurocode Tuning yesterday and they had to extract my files because APR doesn't have a file for my car yet. Just wondering what the situation is on that.

Chum Ly

Normal. There are a whole slue of TDI ECUs and revisions. It will take a while for us to collect them all.

[TDIpilot81]

Add mine to the list of ones needing the file update! I was looking forward to having some fun this weekend, but I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Thanks for your hard work on this!

[gottaflyvw]

Definitely worth the wait. Had my JSW flashed this afternoon at APR HQ's. Awesome costumer service BTW and the car ran great all the way to Huntsville. I'm very impressed with the outcome.

Mike

[bmw511]

More responsive? Notice higher MPGs when cruising?

Definitely worth the wait. Had my JSW flashed this afternoon at APR HQ's. Awesome costumer service BTW and the car ran great all the way to Huntsville. I'm very impressed with the outcome.

Mike

[gottaflyvw]

you can really feel the difference in how much stronger it pulls. I will have to report back as far as mpg's i was in a hurry getting home last night

[chummer]

I can't wait!

[RonJitsu]

Does anyone know if the APR tune does anything with the idle and / or EGR for the 2.0?
I really like the dynamic idle & dynamic EGR that another tuner has, I'm wondering if APR has or can provide something like this.

[bmw511]

Holy cow..... this tune is amazing. I actually get some push back into my seat with it now in my A3.... APR tune + HPA DSG tune = Fantastic! It doesn't bog down after a shift like it used to, just shifts and runs smooth. Definitely what the TDI needs I love the ability of switching the programs, so you can do a run in Stock mode, then do it again in the APR tuned mode. Seriously put a smile on my face when I took it out for a drive after getting it. Definitely recommend this to any TDI owner!

[chummer]

bmw, you have the HPA flash for the DSG ass well?

I called EuroCode Tuning on Monday and they still don't have my tune yet, I won't be back in town until next Wednsday to flash it now, if, they have it by then?

[bmw511]

I sure do have the HPA DSG tune :-) It took a while but well worth the wait. We *should* have the same revision ECU, but maybe not. That could be why it's delayed for you. I know the installer had to remove my ECU to load the software back in as well. So make sure you plan for that as it's not the simple DirectPort I was under the impression it would be.

bmw, you have the HPA flash for the DSG ass well?

I called EuroCode Tuning on Monday and they still don't have my tune yet, I won't be back in town until next Wednsday to flash it now, if, they have it by then?

[Arin@APR]

Here's an update on TDI software availability:

When visiting an APR dealer, the dealer will plug into your OBD-II port and load our Direct Port Programming online flashing suite. The computer will scan your car to see if software is available. If it is, you can flash and go on your way. If it isn't, we'll do what's called a "Code Extract" to send your ECU information to APR for software creation.

Currently we are extracting and flashing ECU's with the 1796 processor. However, vehicles with the 1797 ECU found in select new vehicles are still in development. We can take a good guess a the processor revision based on your ECU Box code, however, the only way to be sure is to open the ECU and check.

Audi/VW/Seat/Skoda have MANY ECU part numbers and revisions for each vehicle in their fleet, so typically during the launch of a new software code, there's some lag time before all of the codes are available. Codes will not become available unless we actually see them, which means taking a trip to your local APR dealer will speed up the process.

If you have a VAG-COM cable, you can do some homework to find what you have. Just follow this guide:
http://www.goapr.com/support/boxcode.php

At this point, the following ECU box codes & revisions are available to flash right now:
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019CL S7966
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019CM S7967
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019DA S9144
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019DA S8217
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019DB S9047
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019DB S7970
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906022PB S8216
2.0TDI CBEA 03L906022SQ S7968

If you're not on that list, you may need to be code extracted. However, your dealer will not need to extract your ECU if you're on the lists below.

Here are the other ECU codes we currently have and are waiting for Engineering to release:
2.0TDI CBEA 03L906022SQ S7276
2.0TDI CBEA 03L997016N S8680
2.0TDI CBEA 03L997016P S8681

Lastly, here are other codes we are waiting for Engineering to test before they can be bumped up to the next level for a release:
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EE S1181
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EE S3521
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EF S1182
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EH S3523
2.0TDI CBEA 03L906019EJ S1466
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019HG S2261
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019HH S2260
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019HH S3524

I hope that clears up any questions, but if not, ask and we'll do our best to answer!

Thank you!

-Arin

[chummer]

Are you the dude from Pawn Stars? How do you fit in a A3?

HAHAHA...!!! I just caught this, no, I'm not. That is my actual name, Chum Ly, I get that alot.

and I'm only 155lbs

[chummer]

I sure do have the HPA DSG tune :-) It took a while but well worth the wait. We *should* have the same revision ECU, but maybe not. That could be why it's delayed for you. I know the installer had to remove my ECU to load the software back in as well. So make sure you plan for that as it's not the simple DirectPort I was under the impression it would be.

Nice, I'm going to wait for another sale from HPA to order the flash. As of today, I'm still waiting on words about my APR flash.

[bmw511]

Awesome update Arin! This has got to be my favorite thing I've done with my TDI! Rocks my socks off!

[jboy08]

Ho hum. Eurocode was kind enough to give me a courtesy call the other day - without any good news of course. I love what I'm hearing so far, but this wait is allowing the father of two inside me screaming common sense. Time to put my money towards something more useful or productive.

But then again, I'd love to hear APR chime in about what they can do for those of us waiting 2+ weeks. We're essentially beta testers but without the sneak peek or other perks.

[TDIpilot81]

Looks like mine is second from the bottom on the waiting list for engineering (from what I can tell by looking at the sticker on the outside of the ECU). Starting on week 2 of the waiting game, but thanks for the update!

[Arin@APR]

Ho hum. Eurocode was kind enough to give me a courtesy call the other day - without any good news of course. I love what I'm hearing so far, but this wait is allowing the father of two inside me screaming common sense. Time to put my money towards something more useful or productive.

But then again, I'd love to hear APR chime in about what they can do for those of us waiting 2+ weeks. We're essentially beta testers but without the sneak peek or other perks.

We should shift the blame onto VW/Audi for making so many variations of the ECU. (Kidding!)

I'm really sorry it takes so long to make all of the code for all of the ECUs but there is nothing I can do to speed up that process. Don't think we're just sitting around not working on it. We need money to keep the business running, so we have our guys working on it day in and day out. But hey, you guys shouted "TDI SOFTWARE NOW!" for what, 4+ years? It's here. The code is being made. Just hold on to your butts.

[bmw511]

It's totally worth the wait... I'm very happy with it :-) At least the sale price is being honored!

[NedRager]

...At this point, the following ECU box codes & revisions are available to flash right now:
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019CL S7966
...

Okay, I have this ECU part number: 2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019CL but my software version number is lower, 58XX something. So my question is... Am I good to go or do I have to wait. Since your reflashing my software, is the hardware part number the main concern?

[Arin@APR]

ECU box codes available to flash:
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019CL S7966
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019CM S7967
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019DA S9144
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019DA S8217
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019DB S9047
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019DB S7970
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906022PB S8216
2.0TDI CBEA 03L906022SQ S7968

2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019HG S2261
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EE S1181


ECU codes we currently have and are waiting for Engineering to release:
2.0TDI CBEA 03L906022SQ S7276
2.0TDI CBEA 03L997016N S8680
2.0TDI CBEA 03L997016P S8681

ECU codes we are waiting for Engineering to test before they can be bumped up to the next level for a release:
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019HH S2260
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EF S1182
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EH S3523
2.0TDI CBEA 03L906019EJ S1466
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019HH S3524
2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EE S3521

[Arin@APR]

Okay, I have this ECU part number: 2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019CL but my software version number is lower, 58XX something. So my question is... Am I good to go or do I have to wait. Since your reflashing my software, is the hardware part number the main concern?

It will take far less time for us to create but you'll still need to get code extracted.

[NedRager]

It will take far less time for us to create but you'll still need to get code extracted.

I guess I wait... being military in Germany the nearest shop is Berlin, 6 hours away... I'm guessing it's not gonna be a while you wait kinda deal. So I would have to drive there, extract code, come back, wait, then drive back again. 24 hours driving and at least a hundred dollars in the tank, plus maybe an overnight isn't worth it right now. Keep us posted.

[Arin@APR]

I guess I wait... being military in Germany the nearest shop is Berlin, 6 hours away... I'm guessing it's not gonna be a while you wait kinda deal. So I would have to drive there, extract code, come back, wait, then drive back again. 24 hours driving and at least a hundred dollars in the tank, plus maybe an overnight isn't worth it right now. Keep us posted.

I do have 2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019CL S7966, so I wonder if your VW dealer has an update for you.

[gtboost]

ECU codes we currently have and are waiting for Engineering to release:
2.0TDI CBEA 03L997016P S8681

Any eta of a release of this? I had my local dealer check my ecu and this was mine.

[AquilaTDI]

Any eta of a release of this? I had my local dealer check my ecu and this was mine.

That's the same one I've been waiting for but I'm loosing interest at this point especially since dealer is charging for installation. Dealer wanted $130. to remove the ECU to do the read-out (which I did myself), and now I'll need to take it out again (although without having to remove the "tamper-proof" screws) to have it flashed. Why can other tuners do all this via the OBD port on the 2009's?

[Arin@APR]

That's the same one I've been waiting for but I'm loosing interest at this point especially since dealer is charging for installation. Dealer wanted $130. to remove the ECU to do the read-out (which I did myself), and now I'll need to take it out again (although without having to remove the "tamper-proof" screws) to have it flashed. Why can other tuners do all this via the OBD port on the 2009's?

All ECUs must be pulled out to be read.

Some of the earlier ECUs are flashable through the port (just not readable).

I'm really sorry it's taking longer than anticipated to get some of the codes ready. Typically we have the stuff the same day, but the TDI is a bit different.

-Arin

[AquilaTDI]

All ECUs must be pulled out to be read.

Some of the earlier ECUs are flashable through the port (just not readable).

I'm really sorry it's taking longer than anticipated to get some of the codes ready. Typically we have the stuff the same day, but the TDI is a bit different.

-Arin

Thanks Arin,

You've certainly been very helpful!

Is there any way of knowing if my car can be flashed via the port? (VAG Number: 03L 997 016 P Component: R4 2.0L EDC G000AG 8681)

Cheers!

[Arin@APR]

Thanks Arin,

You've certainly been very helpful!

Is there any way of knowing if my car can be flashed via the port? (VAG Number: 03L 997 016 P Component: R4 2.0L EDC G000AG 8681)

Cheers!

The only way to tell is by plugging in and seeing what the program tells them.


These codes are now finished and ready:


2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019HG S3522

2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019HH S3524

2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EE S3521

2.0TDI CJAA 03L906019EH S3523

[jboy08]

So Eurocode called yesterday and told me my file was ready.

This took over 3 weeks.

In 3 weeks a lot can happen, which is obviously why I'm upset because the money I had ready to purchase went to other priorities. So now I have to save up again and either pay full price or wait til another sale.

I'm honestly not happy with this whole experience. When the announcement came out, it should've been marked with an asterisk telling us which 2.0 TDI engines or models were available. Instead my car's ECU becomes the guinea pig that allows APR to sell its product to all the other MKVI TDIs.

I understand all the R&D that took place to get us a polished product. But then again most people who volunteer their cars for R&D get steep discounts or get the product for free.

Yes this is a rant, and yes I'm a crybaby that needs his diaper changed.

Waa.

[chummer]

Same here, when I took my car in during the sale. APR did not have my ECU file ready, I was told by EuroCode Tuning that if I let APR take the file because I was the first one that I'll get the sale price and a little discount because the of the waiting time and giving my file to them.

I just got a call from EuroCode Tuning that it's ready, but I'm out of town right now and will not be able to do it until Wednsday. HOPEFULLY, the sale and discounts was promise is still good. That would be robbery if it isn't.

[bmw511]

I believe Arin mentioned the Sale pricing would be honored for us all.

[gtboost]

I was told the sale extension (ending aug 18th) was only for a handful of ecu's.

It's now well beyond the 18th and many people (including myself) still waiting on files are out of the sale price. I even asked my dealer if I could pre-pay and I'll wait for the file to be ready. They said no.


I have had APR on 3 cars and have loved their support and tunes. This leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It won't deter me from apr but I have started exploring other tuners again. Mainly because I
am impatient and want more power.

I'm sure there are many better ways this could have been handled but we can't turn back time.

[Chief Joseph]

arin i tried sending you a message regarding some ?s and your inbox is full please message me when you can

[Arin@APR]

It's nearly impossible for us to have every ECU box code and software revision when we first release software. This is the way it goes everywhere in the world for every tuner.

We are not using customer vehicles for research and development and no one is a guinea pig. If the code is different between the different ECUs then we will get a car in house to write the software and anyone involved will be fully informed of the process. In the US, there was no need for this. In the UK they have different engines, so we flew some of our Diesel calibrators to the APR UK facility just this past week.

Typically getting out new ECUs takes only a little time. Maybe a day at most. We also typically get software out the same year as the first ECU's launched, so we'll have everything very quickly as the list of ECUs is small (couple codes).

That said, it's 2012. We are launching TDI software now. The TDI came out MANY MANY MANY years back. So, we were flooded with codes, a lot of codes, and it's taking a while to get them to all of you among all of the other things we have going on here at APR.

We want you money because w/o your money, we can't operate. So please don't think we're just sitting around twiddling our thumbs! We have people here working on it every day.

You've all screamed for TDI software for years. The day's finally come where we're offering software. If it takes a little longer to get it for your ECU, please just bear with us while we get it all ready.

We've extended sales pricing for the ECUs not available during the sales period.

Thank you.