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    1. 07-25-2012 12:03 AM #1
      Several times lately I gave gotten an alarm and dash warning if a parking brake fault. Obviously the brake doesn't engage when I get the fault message. I have almost 67 K miles on the car now. Shutting the car off and restarting or at least inserting the key to accessory temporarily fixes it.

      Any TSBs on this? Could this simply be an early warning that my pads need replaced (still on original, 6MT)? Known issue?

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      07-25-2012 12:17 AM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by Sandman333 View Post
      Several times lately I gave gotten an alarm and dash warning if a parking brake fault. Obviously the brake doesn't engage when I get the fault message. I have almost 67 K miles on the car now. Shutting the car off and restarting or at least inserting the key to accessory temporarily fixes it.

      Any TSBs on this? Could this simply be an early warning that my pads need replaced (still on original, 6MT)? Known issue?

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      I want to say there is something about a parking brake switch or similar, not 100% sure. I'm sure someone else will confirm or deny that, but, by any chance, is there anything wrong with your auto hold button? If that's messed up, it could cause that fault. Check to see if that works or not.
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      07-25-2012 01:09 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Sandman333 View Post
      Several times lately I gave gotten an alarm and dash warning if a parking brake fault. Obviously the brake doesn't engage when I get the fault message. I have almost 67 K miles on the car now. Shutting the car off and restarting or at least inserting the key to accessory temporarily fixes it.

      Any TSBs on this? Could this simply be an early warning that my pads need replaced (still on original, 6MT)? Known issue?

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      more than likely, you need a new parking brake switch... it's about $50
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    4. 07-25-2012 06:30 AM #4
      Actually auto hold has been working just fine. Are you talking about the dash switch? If so I can just use auto hold most of the time so that the brake is automatically applied every time I shut the car off until I can get it replaced.

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      07-25-2012 07:25 AM #5
      yes, the dash switch. I dunno about the auto-hold that reverts to the parking brake... haven't tried it. Cycling the ignition on/off was what I did when I had this issue
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      07-25-2012 08:11 AM #6
      You'll want to replace the switch before you get stuck with the brake on.

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      07-25-2012 09:06 AM #7
      Pretty much every B6 Passat and early CC's have revision A or B switch which are known to fail. I have revision C switch now.

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      07-25-2012 09:18 AM #8
      So the problem here is just the switch? Now they makes sense I have that same warning once in a while, and I have noticed that depressing the switch/button in a fast way increases the changes of getting the warning...

      So ill be ordering a new switch too..

      Part number any one?

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      07-25-2012 09:36 AM #9
      3c0 924 225c
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      07-25-2012 09:41 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by BsickPassat View Post
      3c0 924 225c
      Thank you!!

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      07-25-2012 10:06 AM #11
      typo:
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      07-25-2012 10:20 AM #12
      Thats why I couldn't find it...

      Thank you again

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      07-25-2012 10:21 AM #13
      If you can wait about a week, you can get them here on eBay from the UK for roughly $38US:

      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Passat-...ht_1704wt_1252
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      07-25-2012 10:27 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by buckeyeb03 View Post
      If you can wait about a week, you can get them here on eBay from the UK for roughly $38US:

      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Passat-...ht_1704wt_1252
      That's with shipping too
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      07-25-2012 10:44 AM #15
      Exactly the same one I had found

      Or amazon a bit more expensive from keffer vw

      http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0071NNEVG

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    16. 07-25-2012 02:56 PM #16
      Thanks, you guys are great. How difficult/ how do you replace this switch?

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    17. 07-25-2012 03:19 PM #17
      Ordered it off that eBay UK Site, $39.70 shipped. Thanks for the link.

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    18. 07-25-2012 03:22 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by EVANGELIONHD View Post
      So the problem here is just the switch? Now they makes sense I have that same warning once in a while, and I have noticed that depressing the switch/button in a fast way increases the changes of getting the warning...

      So ill be ordering a new switch too..

      Part number any one?

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      Using Auto-Hold should get you around the faulty switch till you get it replaced. Just make sure your seat belt is on and AH will release the parking brake automatically when you put the car in gear or start to release the clutch. Actually you don't even need AH to release it, should be automatic anyway, but you will need AH to set the brake without the switch.

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    19. 08-05-2012 08:28 PM #19
      Got my Vag-Com order, looks like you guys were right. Switch is on its way but the eBay seller was a little slow to ship...


      Sunday,05,August,2012,19:26:38:29804
      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 (x64)

      Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
      Control Module Part Number: 3C0 907 801 J HW: 3C0 907 801 J
      Component and/or Version: J540 EPB3 VW-09393 0009
      Software Coding: 0000057
      Work Shop Code: WSC 05311 000 00000
      VCID: 295944EA80E2031
      3 Faults Found:

      03200 - Switch for Electric Parking Brake (E538)
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00111100
      Fault Priority: 1
      Fault Frequency: 5
      Reset counter: 123
      Mileage: 108360 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2012.07.27
      Time: 17:18:17

      Freeze Frame:
      Voltage: 13.60 V
      Count: 10
      Speed: 0.0 km/h
      Hex Value: 0x12F0
      Hex Value: 0x0001
      Hex Value: 0x0101

      16366 - Control Module - Internal Malfunction; CPU 2
      014 - Defective - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101110
      Fault Priority: 1
      Fault Frequency: 2
      Reset counter: 116
      Mileage: 108628 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2012.07.31
      Time: 13:20:39

      Freeze Frame:
      Voltage: 12.10 V
      Count: 41
      Speed: 0.0 km/h
      Hex Value: 0x12F0
      Hex Value: 0x0001
      Hex Value: 0x1010

      16352 - Control Module - Electrical Error
      014 - Defective - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101110
      Fault Priority: 1
      Fault Frequency: 5
      Reset counter: 123
      Mileage: 108360 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2012.07.27
      Time: 17:18:17

      Freeze Frame:
      Voltage: 13.50 V
      Count: 42
      Speed: 0.0 km/h
      Hex Value: 0x12E0
      Hex Value: 0x0001
      Hex Value: 0x0101

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      08-06-2012 09:22 AM #20
      I just got mine from the eBay seller and it took about 7 days to receive it. Installed in less than a minute and works perfectly. You can definitely feel a difference when pushing the button on the new revision. Hard to explain but it's more smooth and less of a snap/click when pressing it.
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      08-06-2012 09:23 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Sandman333 View Post
      Thanks, you guys are great. How difficult/ how do you replace this switch?

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      To replace the switch, take off the fuse box panel on the drivers side/next to the switch...Push the switch out from the back....Disconnect the plug...Plug new switch in and reinstall.
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    22. 08-06-2012 10:25 PM #22
      Got the switch replaced today. So far so good. Thanks.

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    23. 09-08-2012 09:20 PM #23
      Fault has returned, and seems to be getting worse... now what?

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      09-08-2012 09:25 PM #24
      Now it's possibly one of the parking brake motors
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    25. 09-08-2012 09:29 PM #25
      I posted over in the Vag-Com forum. The error found was electrical in the parking brake switch circuit. Possible I got a bad switch as a replacement? Could it be that my rear pads are so worn that this is causing the error? (70K miles on them and they are near the end of their life. I have new ones here)
      Last edited by Sandman333; 09-08-2012 at 11:44 PM.

    26. 09-08-2012 09:39 PM #26
      These are the only two faults currently:

      Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
      Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
      Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
      Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 01000007491286
      Coding: 80849F0340041A00470000000F0000000009FB434600010000 0000000000
      Shop #: WSC 05124 123 12345
      VCID: 71E96C8A68DD7690DEB

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 419 A Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
      Component: Wischer 180707 003 0205
      Coding: 00046997
      Shop #: WSC 05124

      1 Fault Found:
      02390 - Control / Regulation for Ambience Lighting (E400)
      009 - Open or Short to Ground
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101001
      Fault Priority: 5
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 159
      Mileage: 109038 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2012.08.09
      Time: 08:14:00

      Freeze Frame:
      ON
      Voltage: 12.30 V
      ON
      ON
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

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      Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
      Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 J HW: 3C0 907 801 J
      Component: J540 EPB3 VW-09393 0009
      Revision: 008 Serial number: 00000000147454
      Coding: 0000057
      Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
      VCID: 295944EA808D4E5056B

      1 Fault Found:
      03200 - Switch for Electric Parking Brake (E538)
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00111100
      Fault Priority: 1
      Fault Frequency: 15
      Reset counter: 198
      Mileage: 110139 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2012.08.19
      Time: 07:00:03

      Freeze Frame:
      Voltage: 14.20 V
      Count: 10
      Speed: 0.0 km/h
      Hex Value: 0x1161
      Hex Value: 0x0001
      Hex Value: 0x0808

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      09-08-2012 09:59 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Sandman333 View Post
      I posted over in the Vag-Com forum. The error found was electrical in the parking brake switch circuit. Possible I got a bad switch as a replacement? Could it be that my rear pads are so worn that this is causing the error (70K miles on them and they are near the end of their life. I have new ones here)?
      70k miles on those pads? What?

      Dealer replaced mines at 30k miles!7


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    28. 09-08-2012 11:43 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by EVANGELIONHD View Post
      70k miles on those pads? What?

      Dealer replaced mines at 30k miles!7


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      Yep, almost. Last trip to the dealer for recalls they recommended replacing them. I bought this car new and have just shy of 69,200 on her now, so I rounded up. The remaining pad would certainly make it another 800 miles anyway. Maybe they lasted so long because it's a MT? Less braking because of downshifting and no braking against the engine at low speeds like an AT. Front brake pad thickness is still near new.

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      09-09-2012 05:25 AM #29
      Had this fault show up once the other day, and havent seen since. Im surprised this is covered by a TSB since its a known issue. Anyone else had problems with door latches?
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      09-09-2012 07:30 AM #30
      I had my parking brake do the same thing as you describe... switch was replaced by dealer at no cost under CPO at about 60K.

    31. 09-09-2012 09:09 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by N715DP View Post
      I had my parking brake do the same thing as you describe... switch was replaced by dealer at no cost under CPO at about 60K.
      I've already replaced the switch though.

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      09-09-2012 11:40 AM #32
      I got 62k out my rear pads of my 6mt 2.0t. I am a little curious if the parking brake button is VW OEM deal since you got it from overseas. If it OEM VW part and switch is revision C version then this throws a bit of wrench in my idea.

    33. 09-09-2012 12:40 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Boosted2003! View Post
      I got 62k out my rear pads of my 6mt 2.0t. I am a little curious if the parking brake button is VW OEM deal since you got it from overseas. If it OEM VW part and switch is revision C version then this throws a bit of wrench in my idea.
      It looked like the real part, but didn't have the actual VW/AUDI marking on it like the factory part. That's probably the problem.

      Old vs new pads:




      Now to beat the frozen rotor off the hub.....

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      09-09-2012 02:02 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Sandman333 View Post
      It looked like the real part, but didn't have the actual VW/AUDI marking on it like the factory part. That's probably the problem.

      Old vs new pads:




      Now to beat the frozen rotor off the hub.....

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      Is that about 3-5mm left on old pads?

    35. 09-09-2012 06:17 PM #35
      Probably. That's the outside pad. The inside is a little thinner. I think the dealer said they were 2mm. Didn't get the swap done as I don't have a 14mm triple square here. Have to order it, no local tool stores carry them...

      Still couldn't get the rotor to budge (yes I removed the torx screw). Sprayed it down with penetrating oil and then made sure to get it off the rotor surface with brake parts cleaner before I put the old pads back on.
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