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    07-26-2012 11:41 PM #1
    Came across a tweet that suggested that Red Bull may be interested in a US F1 team with American drivers. Found this article and when you read through it, it actually has a sentence about it. Early leak??? Discuss....

    http://www.economist.com/node/21559639
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    07-26-2012 11:58 PM #2
    One can only hope...no Bernie and and American team!

    Alexander Rossi would be a good candidate for the team.

  3. 07-27-2012 11:14 AM #3
    How much money do they have? They have Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso already running in F1

  4. 07-27-2012 11:34 AM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
    One can only hope...no Bernie and and American team!

    Alexander Rossi would be a good candidate for the team.
    Add Connor Daly to the team as well.

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    07-27-2012 11:42 AM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by gizmopop View Post
    How much money do they have? They have Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso already running in F1
    Why not convert Torro Rosso?? They already know how to wipe out two drivers in no time!
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  6. 07-27-2012 04:12 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
    Why not convert Torro Rosso?? They already know how to wipe out two drivers in no time!
    You know that is not a far fetched idea especially with how poorly the STR drivers have been doing.

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    07-29-2012 11:03 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ninja View Post
    You know that is not a far fetched idea especially with how poorly the STR drivers have been doing.
    Don't they have a huge Italian following or has it faded since the name change from Minardi?

  8. 07-30-2012 08:34 AM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by wiredvw View Post
    Don't they have a huge Italian following or has it faded since the name change from Minardi?
    My guess is that it has likely faded. Plus I think the US exposure would be more valuable then being the Italian B team.

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    07-30-2012 09:11 AM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ninja View Post
    My guess is that it has likely faded. Plus I think the US exposure would be more valuable then being the Italian B team.
    Perhaps. Reb Bull certainly have the cash to support the team for several years while it finds it's feet in the US with public interest. The fact that USF1 experiment could hardly raise enough cash to even make it to the first race speaks volumes of the lack of interest in F1 within the US. I could see them seeing how the Austin and NJ races go prior to making any significant moves.

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    07-30-2012 01:53 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by wiredvw View Post
    The fact that USF1 experiment could hardly raise enough cash to even make it to the first race speaks volumes of the lack of interest in F1 within the US.
    Not sure that this statement is fair. First of all, it seemed to me that the USF1 project was more mismanaged than underfunded. So is that they couldn't raise enough money really a fact?
    Secondly, if it really failed due to lack of management, does it really mean that there is not enough interest still??
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  11. 07-30-2012 02:39 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
    Not sure that this statement is fair. First of all, it seemed to me that the USF1 project was more mismanaged than underfunded. So is that they couldn't raise enough money really a fact?
    Secondly, if it really failed due to lack of management, does it really mean that there is not enough interest still??
    USF1 was a casualty of bad management and late to the dance. Timing is everything, and any "super funded" project, race team, real-estate, science, business or otherwise, needs to at least be 2-4yrs in the making, and another 2-3 to become profitable. USF1, thought money cured everything, and even though the pockets at the time were deep, cash burn is like cancer of balance sheets, and like roach spray to speedy investors. They needed at least 2 more years on the clock, imho to have been anything off paper...

    The sentiment for F1 in America is hell strong, NAGP is testament to that... People are tired of Nascar, with Indy making a blip of noise now....it evolutionary that consumers want the next pinnacle. Just wished the conversion pricing don't bite us in the ass...

  12. 07-30-2012 03:42 PM #12
    Speaking of USF1. How bad did they have to **** up and not pull a team together knowing that even HRT is still in the sport.

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    07-30-2012 04:17 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Kidstar View Post
    USF1 was a casualty of bad management and late to the dance. Timing is everything, and any "super funded" project, race team, real-estate, science, business or otherwise, needs to at least be 2-4yrs in the making, and another 2-3 to become profitable. USF1, thought money cured everything, and even though the pockets at the time were deep, cash burn is like cancer of balance sheets, and like roach spray to speedy investors. They needed at least 2 more years on the clock, imho to have been anything off paper...

    The sentiment for F1 in America is hell strong, NAGP is testament to that... People are tired of Nascar, with Indy making a blip of noise now....it evolutionary that consumers want the next pinnacle. Just wished the conversion pricing don't bite us in the ass...
    Good points. I recall reading that USF1 had trouble paying some bills...perhaps not. The one true fact is that they were horribly mismanaged. I'm still not sure if a US team can be successful (i know, pessimistic) even with money and time. There was this kind of excitement when the USGP was at Indy and it faded away after the Michelin tire deal - Bernie didn't help the cause very much either. If the US can stage two races per season for more than 2 yrs without anything major going wrong at the events I can see support building. The US will always be a tough market to crack for the simple reason that we demand "live" events and are too lazy to wake up/stay up to actually watch them live.

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