For the euro hatch guys

[Insan3Vr6]

I recently acquired my euro hatch, and I was wondering how everyone got the button in the center console to open it up? Did you have to retro-fit the electric arm into the hatch?

My lock tumblers are no good in my NA hatch so the only way I can open this hatch is going through the car and manually using it.

I also noticed that the euro hatch has a vac line that the NA hatch didn't have. Just wondering what others have done, because I want the center console button to work, I don't care about the key.

[carpathianwolf]

I just shaved my euro hatch and I made a bracket for the popper mechanism. My car being a 94 (Can) it has the button in the glove box and I wanted to keep that function. This bracket bolts up to the same location as the wiper assembly. To that bracket I have the popper mechanism bolted and rod going to the lock. I'll snap couple pics tonight and post them up for you to see. Hatch is in paint but you'll see the bracket and get an idea.

[Insan3Vr6]

I would appreciate that. Did euro cars not have this functionally?

[carpathianwolf]

Sure did, but I have a NA hatch from a 95 GTi and it doesnt have that function.

[VRsiiicks]

Nice hatch! I was wondering this myself as I too will be joining the euro hatch club

Looks like the fit is money. Any issues in the swap? And where did you get it from?

[Insan3Vr6]

No issues at all, plug and play. I got it from Jamie @ orchid euro. Just trying to figure out how to get my switch to work so I can open it.

Doesn't look like this hatch has anywhere to mount the electric mechanism from the NA hatch...

[Icy]

wished we got the switch to pop it open

[LSCR22]

Bump ... Trying to get mine to work also.

[carpathianwolf]

ok so here is the bracket I made.
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Sorry I dont have a pic bolted up but the hatch is getting painted. Basiclly is bolts up in the same spot as the wiper motor. You can see in the pics what the idea is. Any questions shoot them my way.

PS I can make couple brackets if there is interest.

[Insan3Vr6]

Now that looks clutch. I'd be interested in a bracket it if the price is right

But now I'm curious as to how they are 'supposed' to mount? Did the euro hatches have a different electric opening mechanism?

I shot a few messages to Jamie to see if some light can be shed, but he has been busy lately with other stuff so it's hard to get in contact with him.

[gtr3nos1]

I'm in for a bracket if you decide to make them

[will_t]

i will definitely buy one if they're made.

[carpathianwolf]

Lets say 20$ plus shipping. I have some 1/8" AL left so all I have to do is jump on to the CNC and make them. If you guys can wait, I'll have the hatch back next weekend so you guy can see exactly how it is bolted to the hatch...

[Insan3Vr6]

I'm in for that

Get to it! Lol @ nobody having a working euro hatch.

[JASENR]

I'm in for that

Get to it! Lol @ nobody having a working euro hatch.

I had my NA lock tumbler in my euro hatch, worked just fine.
It locked and pushed to open.

[PKstrategy]

in
my **** don't work either.

[MYGTI_MA]

nice and useful thread!

[Insan3Vr6]

Yeah but my lock tumbler doesn't work from the NA hatch. I depended entirely on the button, and since I plan on shaving the lock, I would rather have it open that way anyway.

[JohnStamos]

Lets say 20$ plus shipping. I have some 1/8" AL left so all I have to do is jump on to the CNC and make them. If you guys can wait, I'll have the hatch back next weekend so you guy can see exactly how it is bolted to the hatch...

If you make a bunch at that price, they will sell.

There are ALOT of Euro hatches out there with non functioning hatch poppers.

[MYGTI_MA]

ill take one for my future euro hatch at that price!

[carpathianwolf]

ok well next week you guys will see the bracket bolted up on my euro hatch and exactly what is needed to make it work. Thanks for the interest in this.

[PKstrategy]

in for pics and info on this.
and yes, definitely want a bracket too.

[Whimsa]

I recently acquired my euro hatch, and I was wondering how everyone got the button in the center console to open it up? Did you have to retro-fit the electric arm into the hatch?

My lock tumblers are no good in my NA hatch so the only way I can open this hatch is going through the car and manually using it.

I also noticed that the euro hatch has a vac line that the NA hatch didn't have. Just wondering what others have done, because I want the center console button to work, I don't care about the key.

I think we (Europeans) got neumatic (air pressured) locks if that helps.

[1VR62NV]

I would take a couple of those as well. When do they go into production?

[Insan3Vr6]

I think we (Europeans) got neumatic (air pressured) locks if that helps.

See, this is what I thought because I have a vac line present on what looks like a little pump, but I think that is activated with the key, not a button. Could be mistaken.

But yeah, totally down for a bracket. Start cranking em out! Love how many people have euro hatches that don't work.

[carpathianwolf]

Wow there sure is interest in this bracket. From what I figured the pump is for the lock and is integrated into the popper mechanism. Basically it is there to unlock the hatch when you unlock your doors. The fabrication will likely begin next week, when I have my hatch all mounted. We can figure out next week how we want to set this up.

[Marcao]

I think we (Europeans) got neumatic (air pressured) locks if that helps.

The GTI that were sold in Brazil came from mexico, they had euro hatch and neumatic locks ! doors locks, gas cap and hatch !

[Insan3Vr6]

Wow there sure is interest in this bracket. From what I figured the pump is for the lock and is integrated into the popper mechanism. Basically it is there to unlock the hatch when you unlock your doors. The fabrication will likely begin next week, when I have my hatch all mounted. We can figure out next week how we want to set this up.

That's pretty much what I thought. Looks like a quality piece from the pics, and if it does the job, that's all I need.

[VDub2625]

See, this is what I thought because I have a vac line present on what looks like a little pump, but I think that is activated with the key, not a button. Could be mistaken.

It's like a Mk2. Horizontal key=unlocks with doors, vertical key=locked always, diagonal key=one-time open while doors are locked (bad idea if the alarm is armed, since Euro hatches don't have wiring for the key microswitch).

You can easily modify the lock by switching tumblers to make it match your key. use the lock from your OEM hatch and the Euro hatch as a source of tuimblers. You may not have all the right ones, in that case, file them down to match, like I did with my friend's. Then you can hook up the vac line and keep the trunk "unlocked", it'll auto-lock with the doors, and you can use a key to permanebtly lock it.

[Insan3Vr6]

It's like a Mk2. Horizontal key=unlocks with doors, vertical key=locked always, diagonal key=one-time open while doors are locked (bad idea if the alarm is armed, since Euro hatches don't have wiring for the key microswitch).

You can easily modify the lock by switching tumblers to make it match your key. use the lock from your OEM hatch and the Euro hatch as a source of tuimblers. You may not have all the right ones, in that case, file them down to match, like I did with my friend's. Then you can hook up the vac line and keep the trunk "unlocked", it'll auto-lock with the doors, and you can use a key to permanebtly lock it.

Awesome info.

[Insan3Vr6]

I did speak to Jamie, and he said euro cars DO NOT have the unlock feature in the hatch, on any model that he has seen. But he said that changing the key cylinder from the NA hatch is very easy as we discussed here.

[the brit]

It's like a Mk2. Horizontal key=unlocks with doors, vertical key=locked always, diagonal key=one-time open while doors are locked (bad idea if the alarm is armed, since Euro hatches don't have wiring for the key microswitch).

You can easily modify the lock by switching tumblers to make it match your key. use the lock from your OEM hatch and the Euro hatch as a source of tuimblers. You may not have all the right ones, in that case, file them down to match, like I did with my friend's. Then you can hook up the vac line and keep the trunk "unlocked", it'll auto-lock with the doors, and you can use a key to permanebtly lock it.

Exactly the correct information. There is pretty much no reason that anyone doesn't have a working key in their euro trunks considering how quick and easy it is to modify the lock to match their ignition key.

I did speak to Jamie, and he said euro cars DO NOT have the unlock feature in the hatch, on any model that he has seen. But he said that changing the key cylinder from the NA hatch is very easy as we discussed here.

They don't have the unlock switch, but they do unlock automatically with the central locking. Even if the trunk is locked or unlocked with the key, the vacuum central locking will override it and lock the trunk when the central locking is locked.



Here's a video that I posted a while back about how to remove the lock cylinder from a Euro mk3 hatch, which will then enable you to 're-key' it to match the rest of your car.

[Insan3Vr6]

So if I tap into that vac line in the hatch into the stock vac system it will unlock / lock with the doors?

[the brit]

So if I tap into that vac line in the hatch into the stock vac system it will unlock / lock with the doors?

That's pretty much how the Euro ones do it I believe. Always locked/unlocked with the rest of the central locking system, with the key to manually unlock/lock it if you want.

I suppose it would be pretty easy to get a donor vacuum end from a door etc of any NA car, and a extra t-junction from the rear quarter, and simply add the extra hose to go to the rear quarter panel right there.

[VDub2625]

Or do it Mk2 style, cut one of the hoses (factory would be the one that goes to the fuel door), and install a T using short rubber sections. You don't specifically NEED the clippy style, though it is nice