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      08-03-2012 01:07 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      My current win 7 PC boots from off to desktop ready to go in well under a minute.
      If I am using a platter drive for storage, it seems like it wouldn't make everything I do faster..
      If I can't use it for frequent read/write then what's the point?
      You can use SSDs for storage too. Knock yourself silly and buy a few of these bad boys.

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      08-03-2012 01:55 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Mtl-Marc View Post
      You can use SSDs for storage too. Knock yourself silly and buy a few of these bad boys.

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      08-06-2012 07:08 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      My current win 7 PC boots from off to desktop ready to go in well under a minute.
      If I am using a platter drive for storage, it seems like it wouldn't make everything I do faster..
      If I can't use it for frequent read/write then what's the point?
      Well to be blunt, you're better off with a large capacity SSD than small capacity if you're going to be doing lots of read/write. I guess the point is you'd have to write different areas of the chips, as opposed to writing over the same areas, which degrade the chips and eventually your drive fails after a couple years.

      I'm using 2.5" SATA 3 HDD for media/data storage, and the 2.5" SSD for OS. It works fine. Then again I'm not running a pirate operation where I need high transfer rates 99% of the time, I just need to be able to transfer stuff from and to my NAS sometimes to watch stuff on the TV screen (the pc tower's card is 10/100 and that could use an upgrade since the NAS/Router have Giga ports.) and the phone's microsd which is pretty much the bottle neck.
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      08-06-2012 01:41 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      My current win 7 PC boots from off to desktop ready to go in well under a minute.
      If I am using a platter drive for storage, it seems like it wouldn't make everything I do faster..
      If I can't use it for frequent read/write then what's the point?
      Chances are that same computer would boot in under 20 seconds on a good SSD. Accessing storage is not generally the main bottleneck, it's the random access necessary during normal everyday stuff that a SSD makes so much better.

      We have been using SSD's in our workplace for ~4 years now. The original 80GB Intel drive I started with for testing is still in service. We have approx a dozen Intel drives in service here, most at 2-3 years of life. The only ones I've had any trouble with were the 320 series drives, and I *think* that issue was related to the computer it was installed in, because that computer bricked two drives, and the new one has not bricked any. Plenty of other 320 drives have been holding up fine. I would not worry about drive lifespan in deciding to upgrade to a SSD.
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      08-06-2012 01:58 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      My current win 7 PC boots from off to desktop ready to go in well under a minute.
      If I am using a platter drive for storage, it seems like it wouldn't make everything I do faster..
      If I can't use it for frequent read/write then what's the point?
      Installing windows on your SSD will make the biggest speed bump. You will be surprised. Also people WAYYYY over exaggerate how quickly SSD's die. I have an ssd in daily use that is from early 2010 (a 128GB C300) that still has 98% of total life remaining. This SSD gets plenty of heavy use and quite a bit of writing to it. Just forget about SSD lifetime, it's a non-issue. Get one and come to the next generation with the rest of us.
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      08-07-2012 07:14 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by PhReE View Post
      Just forget about SSD lifetime, it's a non-issue. Get one and come to the next generation with the rest of us.
      What he said.

      Chances are that same computer would boot in under 20 seconds on a good SSD.
      I have a new Dell laptop in front of me that POSTs *and* boots to desktop in 18 seconds using a cache drive. Another good option for people with space anxiety.
      I always plug in USBs right the first time.

    7. 08-15-2012 08:25 AM #32
      are all SSD brands equal?

      ocz, intel, sanforce, etc?

      is there something i should be avoiding when looking for a 240-256gb ssd? they all seem to be similar prices.
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      08-15-2012 09:49 AM #33
      so back in the day, the bragging rights used to be based on MIPS, flops, polygons rendered, etc etc. Has that changed solely to boot time bragging with SSD?
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      08-15-2012 10:03 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by spoonie View Post
      are all SSD brands equal?

      ocz, intel, sanforce, etc?

      is there something i should be avoiding when looking for a 240-256gb ssd? they all seem to be similar prices.
      I am not a fan of OCZ. Their drives tend to have the best benchmarks, but they also have a lot of failures.

      In that size range I would be comfortable with something from Intel or Samsung. The Samsung 830 is a good drive at a good price right now.
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      08-15-2012 10:38 AM #35
      Not ready for SSD lifespans but still attracted to them.

      What is the program for boot times you used?

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      08-15-2012 11:02 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Power5 View Post
      Not ready for SSD lifespans but still attracted to them.
      ?

      Name brand SSD's have lifespans that will far exceed how long you will actually want to keep using the drive. Not to mention the fact that SSD or platter drive, you still have to back up your stuff.
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      08-15-2012 07:13 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by zhenya00 View Post
      I am not a fan of OCZ. Their drives tend to have the best benchmarks, but they also have a lot of failures.
      Talk me about it. I lost like 15 hours and despite updating the firmware, it failed a few months. I resold the replacement unit I got from OCZ.

      I am giving SSD another chance; yesterday I ordered a Intel 520, which will be completed with my 1Tb WD Black series.

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      08-15-2012 07:28 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Saintor View Post
      Talk me about it. I lost like 15 hours and despite updating the firmware, it failed a few months. I resold the replacement unit I got from OCZ.

      I am giving SSD another chance; yesterday I ordered a Intel 520, which will be completed with my 1Tb WD Black series.


      I have heard good things about that Intel, and WD is all I use for HDD's.
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      08-15-2012 10:03 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Power5 View Post
      Not ready for SSD lifespans but still attracted to them.

      What is the program for boot times you used?
      I have SSD drives from back in 2009 (when 128GB cost ~$350!) that still run fine, and one of the heaviest used ones has 98%of its erase cycles left.
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    15. 08-16-2012 12:51 PM #40
      Intel SSDs are about as reliable as they get.

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      08-16-2012 02:45 PM #41
      Weird that when SSDs started getting popular the intel controller was the only one worth considering. Now the new intel drives use sandforce controllers. So now sandforce is okay.

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      08-16-2012 03:18 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by Power5 View Post
      Weird that when SSDs started getting popular the intel controller was the only one worth considering. Now the new intel drives use sandforce controllers. So now sandforce is okay.
      Intel has a significantly higher threshold for validating a system than the smaller companies. It's not at all unlikely that early Sandforce controllers weren't that reliable, and that they have improved over time. It's also not unheard of that a smaller company builds something truly excellent. A large company like Samsung or Intel must set a much higher threshold for reliability before approving a piece of hardware, however. That stuff takes time.

      Again, if you want the fastest cutting edge product, you generally look to the smaller vendors. If you want the best reliability, you look to the big ones. There are exceptions, but that's a good rule of thumb.
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      08-17-2012 10:59 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Birds View Post
      Yep, avoid OCZ like the plague.

      I use Crucial M4's at home for my personal desktop and lab as they're a little cheaper than the Samsungs. We've probably bought close to 100 Samsung 830's at work (128GB's for workstations and laptops, probably about 20x 512GB's for our test and development servers), literally not a single one has failed.
      I don't know... I have an OCZ Vertex 3 and it hasn't had a hiccup since building my PC earlier this year. Figure going on 6 months so far, so I'm optimistic.
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      08-18-2012 08:01 AM #44
      Read some forums and you will see sandforce still has hiccups, I've been using the M4 since its inception and have been very happy, crucial hasnt don't me wrong yet, ever, in any component

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      08-18-2012 01:28 PM #45
      It's awesome. I love SSDs.

      I just bought a Retina MacBook Pro and it's stupid fast with the SSD. Flash based hardware is the future

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      08-18-2012 01:29 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiffyGTI View Post
      Intel SSDs are about as reliable as they get.
      My research has shown that the newer Samsung SSDs are faster, whereas Toshiba makers slower ones.

    22. 08-18-2012 02:59 PM #47
      i've been doing a fair amount of reading lately - interesting that ocz has gone their own way with the controller hardware/firmware by purchasing a korean company. the vertex4 is their own "new" thing. so far so good?
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      08-18-2012 05:13 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by zerotosixty View Post
      It's awesome. I love SSDs.

      I just bought a Retina MacBook Pro and it's stupid fast with the SSD. Flash based hardware is the future
      Yeah.. it is flash memory, like a thumb drive.

      So.. how long will flash ram keep data without significant degradation?

      If you leave an SDD PC unplugged for a few years and them turn it on, will the SSD still have all your data?
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      08-18-2012 08:45 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      So.. how long will flash ram keep data without significant degradation?

      If you leave an SDD PC unplugged for a few years and them turn it on, will the SSD still have all your data?
      I don't know, but I did know that I've seen plenty of instances where a platter drive was plugged in after sitting in a cabinet for a year and data couldn't be pulled off of it.

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      08-18-2012 10:26 PM #50
      Just restored my 2008 iMac to modern-like functionality with an SSD install today. Took some time as I had to move a lot of data around to make everything work on the smaller SSD internal, and took the opportunity to replace my aging NAS with a single external drive now that the iMac has effectively become the NAS for the house, and I back up to the cloud. Anyhow, the actual install was pretty easy, and this computer that had been beginning to drag a bit as it aged is now snappy and quick again.

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