It is on my list of cars, will be buying in a few months. I looked at one today, only drove it around the dealer lot. The interior is better then I thought but not awesome, decent steering wheel, easy clutch and shifter(could use shorter throws).
Tell me your experience if you own or owned one. The car will be my daily driver, including New England winter.
I want a fun daily driver that I can autocross in.
Other cars on my list are:
350Z, I used to own a rwd G35 so no need to scare me with snow
S2000(If I can find a second gen in my price range)
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2008 Cobalt -DD
1979 Firebird with some toys-
If I remember the SS/tc has or had one of the fastest car and driver lightning laps at VIR for a FWD ever? Beating many "better" sport cars. Also posted a damn good "ring time" also?
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My best friend drives one. The motor is a beast with the GM stage one tune, he tracks it all the time and it never misses a beat. As others have mentioned this car right out of the box will make more expensive cars look pretty bad. Oh and no lift shift is super addictive, and the factory brembos stop the car really well.
To be dead honest I don't think there is a better performance oriented compact car for the money.
And the issue was not 2008 only. The problem persisted during the entire production run of Cobalt Turbos. I wager because it would have been too costly for GM to go back and re-engineer the entire rear braking set up for a very small volume model that was only produced for around two years.
So OP, be advised...you WILL go through rear brakes. Other than that, I loved my TC and found it to be a complete riot to drive.
Friend had one. Very rental car interior but it sufficed. The factory backed tuning was great. They also offered an a-pillar electronic gauge that showed all sorts of fun things. He really enjoyed it and only got rid of it because the Camaro came out and that was really what he wanted.
2009 MINI Cooper S
1988 BMW 325i topless
So I went to drive a 2009 SS today. The car was traded in and was modded, the dealer didn't know exactly what was done but it had an exhaust and an Injen pipe between inter-cooler and engine.
I thought the clutch and shifter were very good, felt tight and precise.
Steering felt not too heavy and the feel was good.
The seats felt OK, they could use more lumbar support.
I didn't try the stereo.
I took the car on the highway and punching it in third gear going 60 felt very impressive and the wheels were fighting for traction. It pulls hard. This particular car did not have a LSD and I felt torque steer punching it on the highway.
Overall the SS is still on the list and moved up one spot, I liked it a lot.
I also drove a 2007 350Z at a different dealer. The car was gorgeous, white with tinted windows. The space inside is worse then a G35 coupe, it feels deeper and smaller. The visability sucks but that is to be expected. The car sounded great(if you like the Chewbaka sound).
People often complain about the 350Z atrocious clutch and I always defend it by saying that I drove a G35 and the clutch was not bad at all. I was wrong, either I forgot how crappy the clutch was on my G35 or they are not the same between the G35 and 350Z.
The clutch pedal has a very long travel, the engagement point is very high and the pedal is very light.....it makes it super hard to modulate and find the engagement point. Also the gas pedal is very light.
The 350Z's steering felt good, tight, precise and not too light.
Straight line performance in the 350Z was disappointing, I punched it on the highway and it didn't feel very quick...it was very meh.
Overall I think the 350Z is off my list, I know it's capable doing autox and the car looks great and sounds great to me but the combination of underwhelming straight line performance and the terrible clutch just makes it not worth it. It just didn't feel right. Next is a test drive of Solstice, S2000 and Miata.
Also, if you are going to buy one of these cars, you owe yourself to find one with the LSD. My car had it and I can tell you it makes a world of difference in the handling.
I also should mention the CSS "scene" leaves a lil to be desired.
One of our members did a video of the tour our CSS forum put on back in '08. As you can tell there is some serious RICEY antics that go on amongst the owners. Yes I'm in it a couple times...*sigh*
But in my defense...MY CAR WAS STOCK!! It's the Sport Red TC with the low wing.
If you can get beyond that and the brake issue, I highly recommend it!
Cobalt SS/TC is still the BEST HANDLING FWD you can buy in North America. Most import fanboy don't want to acknowledge but it is the truth. YES, it is even better than Acura ITR and Mini cooper... Of course everyone know it comes with a not so nice looking interior and people will always attack this.
Last edited by Avus; 07-29-2012 at 08:14 PM.
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