Buy it and give me another sweet Audi thread to read. The other current one is great, so I will take two.
Ok. School me.
Who's driven/had one? Any known problems? don't need to bother with the "it's an audi prepare your anus and wallet" i drive a german, know how to fix em and have the best indy shop in the world that hooks it up.
Any horror stories? Automatic, not sure how many miles yet.
Thanks in advance for the input, gentlemen.
again, don't need german-bashing from middle-aged basement dwellers who drive 1995 Accords.
"don't need the "prepare your anus and wallet it's an audi"" - add the 2.7T engine to that too.
i don't see why people don't understand that there REALLY ARE some people breathing that LIKE german cars and aren't TERRIFIED to own one.
but that's ok, because 99% of the people who bash them.....have never owned one. and come on...DUH. Every audi/VW made is a POS that blows up after 3 months.
You will in fact be sending a lot of business to the best indy shop that hooks it up.
seriously, the 2.7t have several documented issues or service depending on how you look at it. Depending on mileage, which I assume is high, most owners have either put a ton of money in them and will keep them or try to dump them before they blow up. I believe it was Randy Moss that said it best, "straight cash homey."
Last edited by Mr Roo; 07-30-2012 at 10:17 AM.
Remember that "other" Audi thread? Where the lack of underwood space caused engineering / execution issues? Not a factor here. The twin turbo motor had more room to breathe here than in a B5 S4, so heat didn't do as much damage, in general. The automatic transmission can be an issue, but not like the CVT in terms of repair or replacement cost. If the car has a decent and documented repair record I wouldn't be too scared of this one, especially if you can do basic maintenance.
it's just amusing - literally 99% of cars asked about on TCL that i've read the threads of/to....are bashed like NO other. I'm sure that 100% of all cars with a 2.7T are blown out or on the side of the street. lol.
i'd love to know what you people think ARE good cars? no need to really answer that...just something to ponder.
hate to burst bubbles...but the slightly useful input i get on here usually doesn't weigh much on how i feel about a specific car i look @. i drive a 1996 Jetta trek for christ sake - i'm sure you'd have 9,000 problems with those and how bad they are. maintenance and how someone decides to take care of a car has nothing to do with how long they last.
If you want to be a douche and disregard any advice that doesn't praise the car, then go ahead, but that sort of defeats the purpose of this thread.
I had a 2005 Audi allroad 2.7T. In my opinion, it is one of the prettiest vehicles that Audi has ever made. It had 25k miles on it when I bought it. I sold it at around 31k miles. It was under warranty and in the shop all the time. I spent more time in the A3 loaner car than I did in my own. It wasnt allroad specific issues only though. They would be issues that you might face as well (electronics, sensors, etc...)
You think you hate it now. Wait til you drive it.
I don't know that they are any more problematic than the old 5000/200 cars that preceded them in the maintenance dept. It boils down to this. THere are a lot on the road with over 200k miles on them and still going. They weren't as beat on as the S4's of their day and have a lot more room.
If this car does it for you, cool. Go ahead and buy it. They drive wonderfully and still look really classy. Nothing in the price range can touch the quality level of that interior. Even if you have to fix something every week, if it puts a smile on your face when you drive it, buy it.
Too many people here look at cars from an appliance standpoint. You, and you alone have to decide if the headache is worth it.
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One of the nastiest lawsuits ever slapped on me resulted from an A6 2.7T Auto that I sold. If you don't want opinions and already are prepared for the wallet draining go for it; what do you want us to tell you?
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"I'm trying to live vicariously through jrod here and my vicarious
life would be better if he had a twin turbo. Or a ****ing pirate
I mean, hell if you wanna go to the Audi section to get completely biased information saying they're "not that bad" or whatever, go ahead, but the truth is that the cars are cluster****s. That is, of course, unless you wanna sock away 10k for repairs on one of them...which I don't understand why you'd want to. Hell, get a 4.2 instead, they're better.
I've owned 4 German cars...won't be doing so again. And don't get all whiney cause every car you've approached TCL with has happened to be a piece of ****, that's on you
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Now go get your shinebox
i'd mirror what other people say, stay away. if the s4 is large enough for you, it is the same motor but with much more simple interior electronics. alot less to go wrong. if you are comfy with the mechanics and you want a 2.7tt, a b5 s4 is a better way to go.
I have a 2002 A6 TDI Quattro (6MT) with 280K on it. I don't know the 2.7TT motor but the whole rest of the car is an exercise in perverse complicated engineering and "why the **** did they do it like that??" moments. Luckily I love her and the way she drives to put up with the foibles. I've put 40K on her in the last 12 months and she hasn't let me down once
Quattros often have an appetite for tires. They can chew them up in strange ways and I haven't found anyone who can align them properly (including several Audi dealerships!).
Last thought: automatic = run far, far away. It [i]will[/] go bang at some point. Even my Dad has had one fail and he could be driving Miss Daisy I will never own another auto Audi, nor would I recommend one to anyone. If you must, budget for a new transmission somewhere between 100-200K. Or spend the $$s now and bulletproof it, but that ain't cheap.
Throw an Audi engineer down a hole with a ladder and he will fashion a shovel from it and tunnel his way out
Yeah, a 1996 Jetta is really comparable maintenance-wise to a 2.7TT Audi A6.
Nobody here will tell you that they drive badly, because they don't. They're fantastic cruisers. The problem is that they have a zillion issues- I know you don't want peoples' opinions on the issues the car has, but you can't get away from it. It is a defining characteristic of the car itself.
This kind of maintenance is expected if you own a supercar or something. If you owned an RS6, hey, maybe you can make an exception for maintenance costs.
But this isn't some sort of ultra-rare super-handling uber-fast car. It's an Audi A6 nightmare.
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They all aren't that bad depending on previous ownership and maintenance records. Mine is a 2001 with 126k. I bought it with 100k on the dot (previous owners were no doubt dumping it). I did all the maintenance that I knew it was calling for i.e. timing belt, cam seals, valve cover gaskets, transmission fluid and filter change and etc. The car runs and drives like a dream. Forums make most, if not all of the items DIY. If you are willing to put some time and money into it, then I say go for it. Again, this is all depending on how abused the current state of the car is in.
My evidence is anecdotal.
A buddy of mine bought one 7 months ago, paid 12k for it...it had 67k miles on it. 3 weeks later his oil light comes on, the car has no oil....takes it to a mechanic they start digging into it, turns out some seal is leaking and a bunch of other crap, total cost to fix is around 4 grand.
He traded it in the next week, the car drove great and he didn't suspect a thing. Not sure if a PPI would have picked this up or not because the mechanic started taking the engine apart to figure out where the leak was.