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    Thread: I think I found a FIX for turning OFF the TRACTION CONTROL-Golf R

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      07-30-2012 10:16 PM #1
      I went to the track yesterday super excited using the GIAC Race Program 100 Octane, only to be somewhat let down when I had turned of the stability control and it really does not turn off. With the traction control still on I lost a lot of really needed power through some of the turns. So while at the track I started researching the web and found that the European and Canadian cars will really turn off the traction control by holding down the ASR button for 3 seconds and hear a ding sound. It bugged me so much that I am taking action for what should have come on our US spec cars. I spoke with Austin at GIAC and he said check to make sure the part #'s of the ABS Module for the Canandian and US cars are the same and we can change the coding to make it Euro or Canadian spec. So I called this VW Parts guy in Canada (another Austin haha) and ends up he has a Golf R too. What are the odds. He sent me a log of his coding on his Canadian Golf R. I will show you guys however please use at your own risk as I am verifying with Austin at GIAC that the codes match up with his Golf R connects in Europe and Canada. I am itching to find out. Once I do I will repost my findings. Here is the Canadian spec coding below:

      Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
      Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0121
      Revision: 00H31001
      Coding: 144B800C492580FD281201E492210141310000
      Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
      VCID: 7BFF187EFAFE411

      No fault code found.

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      07-30-2012 10:22 PM #2
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      07-30-2012 10:35 PM #4
      For what it's worth, here's my current (absolutely stock and untouched) ABS brake coding (NA region of course):

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      Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
         Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
         Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
         Revision: 00H31001    
         Coding: 144B800C49230002280D01E8921D0041B70000
         Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
         VCID: 7BDB2371FAFE411
      
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      07-30-2012 10:37 PM #5
      Hmm...

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      07-30-2012 10:38 PM #6
      stay tuned!!!

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      07-30-2012 10:41 PM #7
      Awesome the coding is different so that is giving me an idea that this coding from Canada should work. I just want to wait for the results from Austin at GIAC to verify the Canadian and Euro codes. I think we are on to something guys...super siked!!! No more power dips through the turns!!!

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      07-30-2012 10:41 PM #8
      Thanks Casbah Boy!!!

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      07-30-2012 10:58 PM #10
      I will try to recode tomorrow morning. Only because if I got out of bed right now to recode my car on a public street in NYC, my wife will really think the game is up.

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      07-30-2012 11:11 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      I will try to recode tomorrow morning. Only because if I got out of bed right now to recode my car on a public street in NYC, my wife will really think the game is up.
      I'm thinking I'll try it also. I get off work at 4am and home bout 5. Nothing like a 5am drift in my neighborhood LOL!! Nobody's up and driving so that'll be perfect
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      07-30-2012 11:12 PM #13
      im in

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      07-30-2012 11:20 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrol Mike View Post
      I will try to recode tomorrow morning. Only because if I got out of bed right now to recode my car on a public street in NYC, my wife will really think the game is up.
      Let me know your findings and I hope it works!!! I am curious to find out if the coding for Europe is the same as Canada...if it is I think we are in the money!!!

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      07-30-2012 11:34 PM #15
      Let's see how tired I am when I arrive home in 3 hours. If not too bad ill go and try to recode
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      07-30-2012 11:54 PM #16
      I just tried it it says "error 31 request out of range"
      I think you need a security key to unlock the module

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      07-31-2012 12:02 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by watsonj0 View Post
      I just tried it it says "error 31 request out of range"
      I think you need a security key to unlock the module
      I sell cars at a VW Dealership and am going to ask one of my techs how to install the coding. We will find out somehow!!!

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      07-31-2012 12:15 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by watsonj0 View Post
      I just tried it it says "error 31 request out of range"
      I think you need a security key to unlock the module
      I'm pretty sure someone had tried this 2 or 3 months ago and had the same problem as this. They even tried changing one byte at a time and couldn't get the system to accept the changes...
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      07-31-2012 12:40 AM #19
      Maybe there needs to be more than just one change done?
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      07-31-2012 12:44 AM #20
      Is the coding on the abs modules maybe we can swap one with one from canada?
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      07-31-2012 01:02 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by venezuela1986 View Post
      Is the coding on the abs modules maybe we can swap one with one from canada?
      If the part number is the same ordering a Canadian ABS module will do nothing as it still has to be coded.

      We probably need to go through the Security Access to fully change the coding.
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    26. 07-31-2012 03:01 AM #26
      Atleast we are getting closer in breaking this code. Where do i subscrible lol

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      07-31-2012 03:39 AM #27
      Noobs. If you read the original thread I already went over this three months ago.

      Siliconerane got the coding from a Can model and I tried it. You need an SVM unit to change more than the last 4-5 bytes on the abs module.


      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-disable/page6

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      Coding Differences between US and our Canadian Counterparts. I got to plug into an EH car today and this is the difference in coding.


      Canadian:

      Sunday,22,April,2012,06:55:22:43878
      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
      Address 03: ABS Brakes
      Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 BJ
      Component and/or Version: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0121
      Software Coding: 144B800C49248000281301EC921A0141310000
      Work Shop Code: WSC 01357
      VCID: 7BDB2D57FAFE411

      Advanced Identification
      Identification: TT1-012
      Revision: 00H31001
      Date: 17.12.11
      Manufacturer number: 0303
      Test stand number: 0FC9
      Flash Status
      Programming Attempts(application): 0
      Successful Attempts(application): 0
      Programming Status: 00000000
      Flash Date: 2000.14.00
      Flash Tool Code: 00000 000 00000
      Misc.
      Hardware number: 1K0 907 379 BJ
      Workshop System Name: J104
      VCDS Info:
      Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb


      United States:


      Sunday,22,April,2012,06:57:02:43878
      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
      Address 03: ABS Brakes
      Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 BJ
      Component and/or Version: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0121
      Software Coding: 144B800C492A0000280E01E7921B0041B70000
      Work Shop Code: WSC 01357
      VCID: 7BDB2D57FAFE411

      Advanced Identification
      Identification: TT1-012
      Revision: 00H31001
      Date: 07.11.11
      Manufacturer number: 0304
      Test stand number: 0475
      Flash Status
      Programming Attempts(application): 0
      Successful Attempts(application): 0
      Programming Status: 00000000
      Flash Date: 2000.14.00
      Flash Tool Code: 00000 000 00000
      Misc.
      Hardware number: 1K0 907 379 BJ
      Workshop System Name: J104
      VCDS Info:
      Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb

      Hmm, my current coding is

      144B800C492200FD281101E992220041B70000

      and I tried

      144B800C49248000281301EC921A0141310000

      in both Lcoding helper and in the new coding field and both times got a error 31 coding out of range.
      Supposedly mcgyver7923 is attempting to change his through a possible source. Others may try sourcing a Canadian unit.


      Keep in mind that every time a tech connects your car that a Flag will be thrown and your software change may be over written with the American coding.


      From rosstech:

      Software Version Management (SVM)
      Software Version Management (SVM) is a system used by VW/Audi to update control modules and in certain cases, to change their Coding.
      Retrofits and Modifications which are not or cannot documented using Software Version Managements (SVM) at the dealership should be documented in the customer’s vehicle documents. Examples including: Non official retrofit procedures, or ones that aren’t in the VW/Audi system.
      We recommend you add the following information to the service/owners manual of the car:

      Type and complexity of the Retrofitting/Modification
      Location of the Retrofitting/Modification (Contact Person in Case of Problems)
      Software/Hardware Part Numbers of the Modules which have been replaced (if applicable)
      Coding and Adaptation Changes made during the Retrofitting/Modification (before and after)
      The Reason for these suggestions is that the dealer tech may perform a SVM Comparison the next time the car comes in. Every discrepancy compared to the settings after the car was produced will be flagged and the tech will be asked he wants to correct those. If he does all changes get reversed and your retrofitting/modification may not work any longer, so the documentation should inform the tech or at least help to reverse the changes made when necessary.

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      07-31-2012 04:34 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by droopy1592 View Post
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      LMFAO I totally remember this now!
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    29. 07-31-2012 07:25 AM #29
      I was on track in my (Euro) R last week, which was delivered to me late May. Must have just been built before the cut off, as mine still ESP that comes on...
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      07-31-2012 09:43 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by droopy1592 View Post
      Noobs. If you read the original thread I already went over this three months ago.

      Siliconerane got the coding from a Can model and I tried it. You need an SVM unit to change more than the last 4-5 bytes on the abs module.
      This was back in April, Phil grabbed a copy of my coding at Wookies.
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      07-31-2012 11:03 AM #31
      Greetings All. This has been address a couple of times in some much angrier threads with much ranting involved. Seems to be one of those coding changes that has to be done with a much more sophistocated peice of nerd-esque equipment. Someone hit a VW engineer and "acquire" his computatorz.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siliconrane View Post
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      07-31-2012 11:23 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by velocity196 View Post
      LMFAO I totally remember this now!
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      07-31-2012 12:11 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Siliconrane View Post
      Someone hit a VW engineer and "acquire" his computatorz.
      I have the most up to date factory Vas 6150B (dealer scan tool) if that is what you are referring to...
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      07-31-2012 01:08 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by V8Star View Post
      I have the most up to date factory Vas 6150B (dealer scan tool) if that is what you are referring to...
      You need the vas tool to input svm codes into the abs module. Can you make region based changes?
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