If you let it stay for awhile - what is the voltage of the battery? Maybe alternator in not charging it properly. If it is not the alternator it could be that your starter is going bad.
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Car has a hard time starting when sitting for awhile
07-31-2012 09:49 AM
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I been noticing this lately. In the morning usually, when i turn the key to start the car (07 GTI 2.0 FSI)... it doesn't start right away. Once, I had to turn the key twice to get it going. I googled around and read that this might be battery related. So I ended up getting a new battery at autozone since the car is 5-6 years old now. I thought that would solve the problem but it didn't. Last night, I went to see the new batman movie. Car was sitting for about 3 hours, I tried to start the car and it struggled to start but ended up starting. 2 weeks ago, I got my fuel pump, cam shaft, cam follower replaced under warranty. So I'm not sure what's causing this.
Edit: Also want to mention that the spark plugs are fairly new with only 2500 miles on em.
Even did a vag scan on it:
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 (x64)
Data version: 20120401
Tuesday,31,July,2012,09:20:15:22069
Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 65
VIN: ___________________ Mileage: 145420km/90359miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 H HW: 8P0 907 115 B
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0040
Revision: 5BH14--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8162556
Coding: 0403010A1C070160
Shop #: WSC 01017 444 70027
VCID: 2B5F3EAB8A1E111
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
Part No SW: 02E 300 043 C HW: 02E 927 770 AE
Component: GSG DSG 070 1158
Revision: 04507000 Serial number: 00000608190831
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 142D85573760AE9
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 73EFE6CB12AE091
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BJ HW: 1K0 907 044 BJ
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0909
Revision: 00090016 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 70E5E9C763B8329
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q HW: 3C0 937 049 Q
Component: Bordnetz-SG H46 1501
Revision: 00H46000 Serial number: 00000006151033
Coding: 978F8F214004150000140000001400000078770B1E0000
Shop #: WSC 01424 444 82190
VCID: 377712DB4656A51
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 300806 020 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 01424
No fault code found.
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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 F HW: 8E0 035 593 F
Component: SDAR SIRIUS H03 0120
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7F3032676
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C5D3DB78F10169
1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 62
Mileage: 145401 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 09:46:41
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
Component: 5L AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000
Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D06ZBVU
Coding: 0013644
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 6CDDFDB74F90D69
Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AJ HW: 1K0 953 549 AJ
Component: J0527 034 0070
Coding: 0012122
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 7AF1CBEF35C4789
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K6 920 973 A HW: 1K6 920 973 A
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8162556
Coding: 0007207
Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
VCID: 31632CC3A8327B1
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H12 0150
Revision: H12 Serial number: 3100106A1008F0
Coding: 7F8F03600F000000
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 2C5D3DB78F10169
No fault code found.
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Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
Part No SW: 1K6 919 879 HW: 1K6 919 879
Component: Kompass 001 0002
Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 1225223T1KC402
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: FDFB40F3A4EACF1
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1K6 920 973 A HW: 1K6 920 973 A
Component: IMMO VDD 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8162556
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 31632CC3A8327B1
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0967
Coding: 0001077
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 387511E74B48AA9
1 Fault Found:
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
008 - Implausible Signal
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 346D25D757204E9
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
Component: KSG PQ35 RDK 051 0215
Revision: 00051000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 139006885103283E2904058FB0080A04889C00
Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
VCID: 74EDE5D717A00E9
Component: Sounder n.mounted
Component: NGS n.mounted
Component: IRUE n.mounted
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0967
Coding: 0001076
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 397314E37042B31
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 1T0 907 357
Component: Dynamische LWR 0003
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: F4ED65D797A08E9
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G HW: 1K0 035 180 G
Component: Radio PM6 017 0021
Revision: 00017000 Serial number: VWZ5Z7F2105922
Coding: 0040402
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 244DD597E7C0DE9
1 Fault Found:
00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 63
Mileage: 145408 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 10:04:06
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Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
Component: RDK 0420
Revision: 00051000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0100101
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 74EDE5D717A00E9
No fault code found.
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07-31-2012 10:32 AM
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08-01-2012 02:02 PM
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My friend (hyundai tech) ended up helping me test my battery, alternator, and starter and he says those are fine... we're both really baffled on why this is happening in the morning. I wish I didn't live so far from him so he can test it for me while I leave it overnight.
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08-01-2012 07:24 PM
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fuel filter or gunked up intake valves
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08-04-2012 01:49 AM
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I'm starting to think it's the driver door latch that's causing this issue. I been turning the key to let the fuel prime (a couple of times) prior to starting in the morning and it seems to be working. And the vagcom scan shows an issue with the driver door too. Since the mk5 gti's driver door activates the fuel prime when opened... and I noticed when the driver door is opened, sometimes it shows on the MFD and sometimes it doesn't.
Last edited by webosb; 08-04-2012 at 01:55 AM.
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08-04-2012 08:09 AM
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00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
Originally Posted by webosb
008 - Implausible Signal
Those door latches fail all the time. It's very very very common. I cannot tell you how many I replace in a weekLast edited by CorradoG602; 08-04-2012 at 08:11 AM.
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