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    08-01-2012 11:43 AM #1
    a week ago I found out the hard way what happens when someone doesn't route the rear 02 safely away from the exhaust,

    Fried ECU was replaced with apr stock/91/93/100
    k&n filter, eurojet piping and smic, fsi coils, apr r1, apr tip, 3" catted dp to 2.5 straight pipe.

    I'm getting no boost I can hear the turbo spooling but have no boost
    Checked all pipe connections for boost leaks
    I've swapped the apr r1 for a forge no change
    pulled the tip and checked the turbo, seems to be normal shaft play and turbo spins freely
    pulled the downpipe wastegate appears to be functioning correctly

    No CEL's and no faults detected anyone have any ideas on what else could be wrong

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    08-01-2012 12:17 PM #2
    do you have a gauge? are you pulling vacuum like you should at idle, and just hitting the wall when it approaches positive pressure?
    Engineers do it better.

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    08-01-2012 12:43 PM #3
    Yea gauge is showing vacuum, and it seems to run fine up until it should be building boost then it's just a dog

    I even checked to catalytic converter to see if it was clogged or damaged

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    08-01-2012 12:48 PM #4
    Mass Airflow Sensor, unplug it and see if you can build boost..
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    08-01-2012 12:51 PM #5
    Tried that accidently forgot to plug it back in after I reinstalled the tip

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    08-01-2012 01:34 PM #6
    How far have you driven it? I'd think a cel would pop up with your problems. Might drive it around a bit just to see if something shows up.

    I'd rig up a way to pressure test your intake so you can make sure it holds pressure without the turbo hooked up..

    You got a new o2 sensor right?
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    08-01-2012 02:34 PM #7
    Yea new bosch 02 sensor, I might be able to rig something up. I can pretty much guarantee it's not a leak soapy water on connections showed nothing. there is no hissing or any sound of air escaping

    On my old gti I dealt with some bad aftermarket boost hoses and ended up going back to stock, so I've experienced a 1.8t with boost hoses popping off and leaks

  8. 08-01-2012 11:28 PM #8
    If you can make your way to Denver sometime with it I can take a look at it for you at the shop free of charge.

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    08-02-2012 12:03 AM #9
    Take gabe up on his offer or get your hands on a vag-com even with no codes you can read values.
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    08-03-2012 04:17 PM #10
    Gabe,

    I'd really appreciate it, let me see if I can figure out a way to make it down monday

  11. 08-04-2012 01:40 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe@bwperformance View Post
    If you can make your way to Denver sometime with it I can take a look at it for you at the shop free of charge.
    Good looking out We need our local shops here in San Diego to represent like this!

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    08-05-2012 11:20 PM #12
    I still haven't been able to do the pressure test, it sucks not having an aircompressor

    I pulled the diverter valve out and when the engine is off the valve is closed as soon as the car is started it opens and stays open.

    So I have to ask isn't it supposed to be closed until it's pulled open and what controls the opening and closing of the diverter?

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    08-06-2012 02:13 AM #13
    it opens when there is vac, closes when there is boost.. its signal should be from the intake manifold after the throttle; its job is to relieve pressure (if any) when your throttle closes so excess pressure buildup dont cause excessive in wear on the turbo bearings.. this should be recirculating back into the airstream post-maf and pre-turbo without leaks.

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    08-07-2012 12:35 AM #14
    Ok I understand that but what state should the diverter and wastegate be at idle because my diverter is open and wastegate is closed to my Turbo is basically spinning like crazy as soon as I get the rpms anywhere above idle

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    08-07-2012 01:32 AM #15
    at idle your DV should be open and your WG closed; the WG should only open as you approach maximum boost.. For stock systems the WG is regulated by the ECU via the N75 valve.

    Might check out N75; that can fail and not throw a code.
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    08-07-2012 07:26 PM #16
    Just out of curiosity .. have you checked the 3 bolts where the Turbo bolts to exhaust manifold? If loose you can be losing all your pressure there or even the bolts from manifold at the engine.
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    08-07-2012 10:42 PM #17
    Yea they were tight but the Turbo just bit the dust

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    08-07-2012 11:29 PM #18
    What are you going with? Stock or frankenturbo or some other kit?
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    08-08-2012 01:04 AM #19
    Right now whatever is quickest, its my daily so I'm pretty much screwed

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    08-08-2012 09:14 AM #20
    Gotcha.. well give Hardey or RS Motorsports a call. They might have some ideas on quickest. Maybe a used one laying around or inexpensive new ones... just an idea..
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    08-08-2012 11:21 AM #21
    cool, thanks for the ideas. I wanna go bt but right now the finances and Fiancee would kill me

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    08-08-2012 02:10 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by 1320racing View Post
    cool, thanks for the ideas. I wanna go bt but right now the finances and Fiancee would kill me
    frankenturbo kits start around $1,200
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    09-20-2012 10:53 AM #23
    So after replacing the n75 valve and the k03s with another I know one thing, Torque steer sucks.

    Not sure if it was the turbo or n75 or a combo of the two but it runs once again and you can definitely tell it's chipped now

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