Thanks for the information.
Ok, lots of time has gone by and I've given the people involved every opportunity to do something about this, anything really.
I'll keep it short and sweet, down to the facts, I don't want this to turn into a hate thread.
So, these are the people to be aware of :
- Anja aka anjaloveshervw
- David aka dextervw
Located in Camas, WA.
Here are the facts :
- Purchased a 1.5 diesel long block from them, they claimed it was a fresh rebuild.
- Came with lots of receipts, some dated 2007, I was told that was a computer error.
- Installed said motor and it has a rod knock.
It's pretty obvious that this was a preexisting condition because something like that doesn't happen overnight. When I faced them with this fact, all they told me is that it sounded like that before and I should check the pump timing or perhaps I had a faulty pump.
Well, the pump timing (lift) was set at least a half a dozen times with the same result and the injector pump itself was rebuilt at Fine Tuning here in Seattle.
You can listen to their fine motor here :
The only good news is that my Rabbit is now running with a different motor, same injector pump and it's hopping like a bunny.
I'm out a LOT of money on this and I know they are trying to sell other stuff.
Even if I prevent just one person from making the mistake I made I will be happy.
That would be me... A bystander in the sale really (roomies motor, i made zero money off the sale). Once we learned of the issue I called and talked, emailed countless times, tried to meet up to see the car and motor but without Irocz or the owner of the shop being around I was not going to hot wire it to listen. The video sounds just like the motor did the first time we fired it up and after 400 miles swapped out the pump under recommendation from a VW pro... Noise went away and off it drove, happy and healthy... till the day Anja wanted more power and it was removed.
We never lied, we provided all the information we had, the computer error is real and can be verified by calling the company. I offered to come see and listen to the car on the weekends (when I'm free) and never got a response. Irocz had all the time/tools and knowledge to assess the motor before the sale... Anja even offered to leave it in the car so she could listen to it pre-sale.
It sucks you had to spend money to replace the motor again and for that I am sorry... to drag me into this is wrong to begin with as all I did was try to help.
I hope your new engine lasts you a good long time and the bunny brings you many smiles from here on out.
- You posted the engine/transmission combo for sale.
- You are the one who gave me a price on it.
- You are the one I was in contact with the most during and after the sale.
And some more :
- At no point in time was I offered to listen to the motor. It was already pulled when I got there.
- I asked for specific specs as to how much lift you ran the injector pump at, you provided none.
- I offered to get together so you could listen to the motor, time tables clashed and you told me a video was ok.
I even offered to tear down the motor so you could see the damaged bearings.
And some final facts
- I don't claim to be a mechanic but I timed your motor over and over again.
- Then, at the end of my rope, an ASE certified professional mechanic with years of VW/Audi experience timed it for me with the same result.
- That same injector pump, yes that same one is now on a new motor that is running with no issues
It's a dead end. You will never admit to me that you sold me a junk motor.
So the only thing I can do is make sure nobody else will make this mistake.
+1 to give her money back, now that she has a good motor she could use that for the interior
1000 is a lot to drop on a broken motor, im sure the p/o got rid of it because of it because it was a dying motor with a lack of speed
Next time izzy please use PayPal because you can get your money back that way <3
If they refuse you know they are shady citing minuscule PayPal fees as a reason to not use it
Yes I posted it... Yes I talked to you a ton... No I didn't receive your money, own the engine before you or believe it was bad (still don't).
But I guess I'm the new guy around these parts, I guess I can't help two people connect and help each other out. Anja's phone is not always working and she doesn't use the interwebs much.. so I helped out because well i'm here 40 hours a week and I have a working phone. Anja cried when that motor left... it was her BABY.
I tried to give you suggestions because of an old issue with that motor that went away (pump, timing, use of my pump to double check, etc that were free to you) But the first I heard of any issues you had already taken the car to the mechanic... and started pissing at us. Fair chance hardly.
I know every word I write here will be used against me ... I am me and the people who know me know me as a very stand up gentleman.
I am sorry
You posted the engine, you answered questions about the engine, and I assume the buyer handed you the cash for the engine... therefore YOU are the seller.
You need to refund the money for the engine before this ends up in small claims court and you are forced to pay it back.
So since the new pump is now working on a good motor, was the the engine that was purchased taken down to show said problem? I have known dexter on the boards for many years and has always been a stand up dude, seems like a crappy situation either way.
I have been in the same situation, I sold a friends transmission to a guy and was told it was rebuilt and in great shape. When he got it back to his shop he disassembled it and it was not in runnable condition. It needed a rebuild and I instantly refunded over half the purchase price since the transmission itself was fine, it just needed parts and he had already planned on rebuilding it. I also offered a full refund but would not refund until I got the transmission back to inspect, he preferred to just get a refund to cover the cost of the rebuild parts. It sucked because I never ran or pulled it apart, and was under the impression it was in killer shape, but when he called very upset at me I had no option but to work out what we both agreed was fair. I didn't make any money or anything from it, and I had to refund him out of my own pocket and then try to collect the money from the friend I was trying to help out. It was a crappy situation but I had to try and make it right, since I was the one who listed and sold the transmission...
Lots of vr6 and some 1.8t parts for sale
Dave is definitely invited to come up to see me and if he'd like he can tear the motor down himself. Perhaps then he might believe me?
I'm a really nice and calm person, hardly ever even raise my voice. If this had happened to anyone else, they would have shoved the thing down his throat. But here I am giving both of them (Anja and Dave) one more chance.
And of course I took it to a shop, what would you do? I had been calling Anja every day with no answer, it wasn't until I was fed up and sent an email that I got a reply. The only help Dave ever offered was email after email of "your timing is off or your injector pump is bad". At no point did he ever offer to help in person or to try his injector pump.
I have been extremely fair even in the fact that I didn't ask for a full refund at first. But after everything they've put me through I sure am now.
I've tried to reason, tried to listen, tried to get some form of reconciliation but enough is enough.
Last edited by Iroczgirl; 08-06-2012 at 09:06 PM.
Sounds like the actual owner of the motor should consider returning your call.
And it also sounds like Dexter should be facilitating that.
Here's the reality, Dexter: If you don't help make this situation right, you're marked in this community. And not in a good way.
Great that you're man enough to post up in this thread. But what you really need to do is to get the former owner of that motor to respond.
Otherwise this is a bull**** deal, pal.