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    Thread: Prop Shaft Hanger Bearings?

    1. Member -RalleyTuned-'s Avatar
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      08-04-2012 04:41 PM #1
      Is there a source for these other than the dealer? I have a friend in the parts at one so I am having him look into them for me, but I read some older threads about there being an aftermarket source for quite a bit cheaper.

      Posted on the Yahoo syncro group as well as sent an email to the guy who used to post on here that had them. Any additional help, or even sources for them other than the dealer are hugely appreciated.

      Just pulled my drive line out today so I need to make sure I get them before next winter at the latest

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      08-06-2012 08:11 PM #2
      No one has needed these anytime recently?

      Got a quote back from the dealer, retail on these is $270 ea

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      08-06-2012 08:39 PM #3
      i got a custom set from Les. they're solid rubber mount, unlike the crappy oem ones.

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      08-06-2012 08:47 PM #4
      I shot him an email on what I was able to find online, do you have any recent contact with him? Everything I have seen was over a year old from him, at least on these boards. He was selling them for about $100 a piece from the threads I saw, so that would save me a few hundred bucks haha

    5. 08-08-2012 05:36 AM #5
      I had heard to look at the Toyota Tundra hanger bearings.
      Not sure what would be required to make them fit,
      but they're $30 buy-it-now on ebay.



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      08-08-2012 01:59 PM #6
      I have talked and researched this to death and there is no one that has successfully used different bearings to fit the syncro. It has been mentioned and talked about in countless threads and discussions, with the results always coming back negative. What you have posted is about as far as anyone gets, hey I hear these work and they are cheap, good luck

      The biggest thing is the bearing is probably not an un-common size, but the rubber housing for it is not close enough to anything to work without serious fabrication to bolt in. The stock setup on my syncro has lasted since the car was new in 92 so I don't have an issue paying for the new OEM bearings, was just hoping someone had found a viable solution in the past few years

      All the threads and info for these online is almost all 3+ years old, I did recieve a reply from Les, the guy who was making his own. He is busy with family life and is planning on doing another run of bearings, just no idea when he will get the time to make it happen. Just happy to hear he is not gone and there is at least a chance he will make another run in the future

    7. 08-09-2012 02:30 AM #7
      Did you ask the UK boys?

      http://www.vwsyncro.co.uk/

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      08-09-2012 08:36 PM #8
      I read through a ton of threads on that site, and most of them are on the yahoo group

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      08-15-2012 12:23 AM #9
      count me in for a set of these. the guy that sold me the sedan told me they had been replaced under 20000 kms ago. i put the car on the hoist at work; and they are done for. luckily i bought the car for a swap; not a daily.
      so i am in for a group buy?...

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      08-23-2012 10:24 AM #10
      I'm in for a set!!


      pm if u know where to get some!

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      08-27-2012 06:36 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by MrDave View Post
      I had heard to look at the Toyota Tundra hanger bearings.
      Not sure what would be required to make them fit,
      but they're $30 buy-it-now on ebay.



      -Dave
      anyone have any info on this? i popped my while doing some initial tuning of the racecar. don't care about needing to fab mounts, its a race car, not a show queen.... just looking for info on if it fits the shaft!

      thanks

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      08-29-2012 09:11 AM #12
      Well, i found a $2.19 solution to my fried hanger bearing. In my case the bearing itself is fine, just the rubber around it died. Given that my car is a track only car, nvh is not a concern at all. So i made a new mount by welding mounting poi ts and reinforcement on to a 2" exhaust clamp. I took a blade and cut as much protruding rubber off the bearing and it comes out to roughly 2-1/8" od, the 2" clamp has an od of roughly 2-1/8".... There is some wiggle room as a result of the remaining rubber on the bearing but it clamps down quite well. When the car car' s put away in the fall, i can see me doin the same to the front bearing as well...

      Just an fyi for those who don't feel like giving stupid money ($400) to the dealer for more crappy rubber....

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      08-29-2012 09:28 AM #13
      Can you post or email some pictures? I work at a truck shop so i can visualize the u-clam style exhaust clamp you are talking about. It is the cutting of rubber that throws me off a bit.

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      08-29-2012 10:16 AM #14
      Ask and ye shall receive. Was thinkin bout making a thread but really, it's not a big thing in the end. And my part is too fugly to post up here :p





      Grrr, stupid pic host fail will fix tonight
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      08-29-2012 10:30 AM #15
      I am in hamilton. I will see if i can have transaxle look at it or another driveline shop come up with a more standarized aproach to it.

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      10-29-2012 10:58 PM #16
      I have yet to run these yet, but I used E30 hanger bearings. The center metal sleeve that the bearing sits in needs to be trimmed down a bit so the cups on the end of the prop shaft can bolt down all the way.

      I should also mention that since my Syncro swap is custom, I fitted the body tabs to the e30 parts. I think the spacing was really close to stock though so they in theory should work in a factory application.



      I know that toy_vw used the tundra hanger bearings for his scirocco2 syncro swap if that helps anyone.
      Last edited by d-bot; 02-03-2013 at 02:23 PM.

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      10-30-2012 09:19 PM #17
      Can I put that in mine and let you know if it works?

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      10-31-2012 02:10 AM #18
      Sure, you know where my pile of parts are

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      10-31-2012 10:55 AM #19
      Ohh, i like that. Just checked online and i can get them for under $40

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      11-28-2012 02:14 PM #20
      Matt, are all the e30 bearings the same? I'm thinking of giving them a try.

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      11-28-2012 08:18 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by -RalleyTuned- View Post
      Matt, are all the e30 bearings the same? I'm thinking of giving them a try.
      Most likely not. I will check and see which I used and let you know though.

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      12-26-2012 02:30 PM #22
      Hey matt, any news?

      had about 6' of snow in the last week, it got a little interesting sometimes

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      02-08-2013 03:21 PM #23
      Anyone know the shaft diameter/inner diameter of the bearing?
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      03-12-2013 01:47 AM #24
      I effed up and pressed one of them on wrong, I can measure when I pull it off again.

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      03-24-2013 04:36 AM #25
      Disassembled my prop shaft today, both bearings have a 30mm inner race (1.180") and are 13mm deep (.512") which is identical to the BMW E30 center driveshaft bearing. If you're swapping into a non-Syncro car I would highly suggest using the E30 bearings since they're $13 USD.

      The part numbers on the stock bearings are 191 521 352 and 191 521 351. I can't find those part numbers listed anywhere to even get a price. I'm sure they're not cheap.
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      03-24-2013 09:17 AM #26
      they will run you about 240euro for both plus shipping


      they are available at vw classic parts in germany


      http://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/shop/

      search for partnumbers:
      191521350 and 191521349


      so this should not be hard at all

    27. 03-25-2013 03:03 AM #27
      E30 driveshaft center support



      link

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      03-31-2013 02:25 PM #28
      I have a source that can get propshaft bearings from the dealer price will be $400 for the pair, brand new.

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      03-31-2013 02:52 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by MrDave View Post
      E30 driveshaft center support



      link

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      This is the one I used but from a different source that was much cheaper.

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      04-09-2013 12:02 AM #30
      That one would probably work for the rear one, but the front bearing is offset to line up the driveshaft with the output on the transmission. Good option for the rear though.

      bought two new OEM bearings and pressed the offest one on backwards like a doofus. Hoping to be able to get it off or I just wasted $200 on a bearing.

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      04-14-2013 02:33 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by weejunGL View Post
      they will run you about 240euro for both plus shipping


      they are available at vw classic parts in germany


      http://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/shop/

      search for partnumbers:
      191521350 and 191521349


      so this should not be hard at all

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    32. 09-15-2013 02:19 PM #32
      Now i have ordered some parts too.
      Hope to fit them to my Jetta Syncro.
      Its the BMW-way.

    33. 10-10-2013 03:23 AM #33
      Hi Everyone!

      My name is Alexander and I am new to this forum. I live in Sweden.


      I own a VW Golf Syncro Country 1991.
      My prop shaft bearings are gone and they need to be replaced. Problem is that no one has these to sell. Not even VW Classic parts in Germany.

      I contacted propshaft specialist in Gothenburg and talked to him about this. He showed me this dealer in England that has a lot of bearings. Check it out if you like.

      http://www.ims-ltd.co.uk/products/pr...entre-bearings

      Many bearings with same measurments 30mm X 13mm to look at.

      I have found these BMW bearings on this site.

      BRG.B2 for the BMW 3 SERIES OE REF 26 12 1 225 152

      BRG.B3 for the BMW 7 SERIES E32 OE REF 26 12 1 226 723

      and the BRG.B3 just the ones that d-bot where using for his propshaft have the same number on the label. And it says, as you can see that this one is made for the BMW 7 series.
      The differents are in the bolt hole centers as you can see in the IMS charts.

      I wonder how it woorked for d-bot ?

      I wonder if d-bot, or anyone else, could help me out with what the outer diameter of the ring holding everything together is? If it would be the same as my original VW ones? Then I would be able to demount them from the BMW carrier and mount them on my original VW ones.

      I talked to BMW Sweden and different carparts-stores that sell these, but non of them actually had the part at their store to help me with the measurments. Although the BMW man gave me an exploded picture with the BMW E32 propshaft parts
      with measurments, 30mm 13mm 55mm. It did not say what the 55mm was and the BMW guy did not now this either.

      Eventually I am leaning against buying those BMW bearings but it would be nice to know if somebody actually got these BMW bearings to work on their car.

      I couldnt find any followup from mr d-bot unfortunally.

      Thanks everyone that is reading about this and trying to find any good solution.

      AlexanderR

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      10-30-2013 07:51 AM #34
      I just had this problem and I went with using 1989 BMW 325I bearings. You do have to weld new mounts in but compared to the $240 dollars the dealer wants for just the front bearing I just welded new mounts in. Don't buy rock auto bearings though, they may be cheap but the rubber sucks.

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