23mm or 27mm?
Regular vans 23 and Rialtas/Winnebagos 27??
Hmmm try this...maybe I'm wrong:
(Use Google Chrome or use Google to translate the page if you need to.)
The important part:
PR number Stabilizer
0AB 23.5 mm front stabilizer
0AC 27 mm front stabilizer reinforced
0BA no rear stabilizer
0BB 26 mm rear stabilizer
0BC 20 mm rear stabilizer
0BD 28 mm rear stabilizer
That seems to indicate that vehicles with no rear bar means the 23.5mm front bar. Vehicles with a rear bar got the 27mm front bar.
This thread sort of confirms this:
But then there's this old thread which contradicts this:
(That person found 2001-2003 Eurovans with the rear bar to still have the 23.5mm front bar.)
Aaaaahh! This is probably the best way to see:
Not on the left side but at the bottm where it says "Search in Eurovan 2001-2003" punch in:
The end links are different and so are the bushings. Go see what you have. The end links are somewhat visible if you just get under there (or turn your wheels hard right or left). The bushings are more inboard but you can try to see if you can see them.
The end link on the 27mm has a ball joint at the top and a bushing on the bottom. The 23.5mm one has bushings top and bottom.
IIRC on mine (I replaced the whole thing rather than try to press the bushing into it) I just twisted and yanked and pried like hell until it gave up and let go.
What may not be totally obvious if you don't have a new bushing or link in you hand to look at is that the bushing has a raised rib around the inside of it. This rib fits into a groove circumscribed around the bar. This is what keeps it from sliding sideways on the bar (and also what keeps it from sliding off during removal, as you're finding). Somehow you have to get that raised rib out of the groove first and then it should come off much easier. IIRC I just wrestled mine off.
You must be a better wrestler than I am. I sprayed some WD-40 lubricant onto the sway bar, twisted, pulled, tooted etc. and no go. I also purchased the 'split-rubber' bushings for bar-to-body mount but, have no idea how I'm going to get a 16mm wrench on the bracket bolt . I'll give it another go later...hopefully, with better results!
I seem to remember spraying the heck out of something with WD40 too...maybe it was just soaking the hell out of it to encourage it to slide off.
I don't recall having an issue getting a wrench in there for the bar-to-body bracket but I do remember once in there I didn't have a lot of swinging room so it took a lot of small turns.
I soaked it down pretty good as well however, ended up cutting off the link with a "Hackzall" (no tooting ). Mannn, I must be getting too old for this s###...now I can't seem to press the new link on , despite applying a liberal coating of white grease to the bar & bushing! Tomorrow is, as they say...another day
On the plus side, I was able to get a 16mm box-end on the bar-to-body bolt but, as you said..."didn't have a lot of swinging room" and 101 turns later, removed the old bushing. I even managed to install the new bushing (101.25 turns later)
Last edited by euroger; 09-21-2012 at 09:46 AM. Reason: clarification
Finished up the sway/stabilizer bar replacement this afternoon. If I'd have known it was going to be this tough, I'd have taken it to a shop. Actually, it shouldn't have been as difficult as it was but, it seemed like everything that could have gone wrong...did! From nearly stripping a bolt, to having one of the new link bushings pop 1/2 way out (upon installation) ...As mentioned prior, me thinks I'm gettin' too old for this s###...definitely too fat!
Just to eliminate the possibility, brake pads jiggling around? Find a road where you can experiment (bumpy but with no traffic) and see if the clunks go away when the brakes are applied, even if gently...any pressure at all would quiet them if it's the pads.
Other than that, I had a bad "thunk!" in my '93 when turning and hitting a bump. Not sure specifically what part it was but I ended with new ball joints and new tie rod ends and no more clunk.
I wouldn't think it's brake pads. There's only 7K miles on them since replacement (by previous owner).
When replacing the links/bushings, I noticed the dust/grease boots on the tie rod ends were almost flat (no grease). Hopefully it's "just" tie rod ends however, if they're bad...how far behind can the ball joints be? BTW, there's 119,000 miles on the van.