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Thread: Spyker sues GM for 3 billion $ over SAAB

  1. 08-06-2012 12:02 PM #1
    http://europe.autonews.com/apps/pbcs...aab-bankruptcy

    AMSTERDAM (Reuters) -- Dutch company Spyker said it was suing
    General Motors Co. for $3 billion on behalf of its subsidiary Saab,
    accusing the U.S. automaker of deliberately driving Saab into
    bankruptcy by interfering with a planned deal with a Chinese
    investor.
    Saab Automobile went bankrupt in December 2011, less than two years
    after GM sold it to supercar maker Spyker. The bankruptcy followed
    several unsuccessful attempts to attract Chinese or other investment.
    "This lawsuit seeks redress for the unlawful actions GM took to avoid
    competition with Saab Automobile in the Chinese market," Spyker said
    in a statement today, referring to a complaint filed in a U.S. district
    court.

    popcorn time...

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    08-06-2012 12:13 PM #3
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    08-06-2012 12:17 PM #4
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    08-06-2012 12:19 PM #5
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    08-06-2012 12:31 PM #6
    Someone needs to make a book/movie about Saab. They're like a ghost that continually haunts everyone.

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    08-06-2012 12:31 PM #7
    Dear god, will this drama fest ever end?

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    08-06-2012 12:32 PM #8
    and so it begins... i predict this getting messy.

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    08-06-2012 12:33 PM #9
    Right or wrong, I hope they win.

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    08-06-2012 12:40 PM #10
    Lawyers on contingency fee looking for something to stick?

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    08-06-2012 12:44 PM #11




    Quick! To the Saab-cave!

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    08-06-2012 12:44 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by PsyberVW View Post
    Right or wrong, I hope they win.
    Eh, attempted extortion is a bit crass.

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    08-06-2012 12:46 PM #13
    Does the government's ownership in GM mean that Spyker is suing US over Saab?

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    08-06-2012 01:08 PM #14
    This must be Mueller's Plan C. Or is it D? Maybe G by now.

    It'll never fly. If it were Fiat, then yeah... there's precedence.

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    08-06-2012 01:08 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post




    Quick! To the Saab-cave!

    After finnaly watching the Dark Knight Rises; I LOL at this. Probably this will end well ........
    for all the lawyers involved.
    Why yes; that she tropper has sideburns...

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    08-06-2012 01:12 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post




    Quick! To the Saab-cave!
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    08-06-2012 01:42 PM #17
    Cue the armchair CEO's with a foggy understanding of the issue, legal implications and an anti-Saab bent!

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    08-06-2012 01:46 PM #18
    I like saab

    I wholeheartedly believe in the likelihood of these events having taken place

    I only half want it to BE true because in the end I (we) will have to pay for it!!!
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    08-06-2012 01:47 PM #19
    GM should just wait 3 years. By then, depreciation will have the lawsuit down to like $10,000
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    08-06-2012 02:21 PM #20
    I hope they win. GM purposely killed off the saab brand.

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    08-06-2012 02:23 PM #21
    GM's legal team (army) can tie this up in court long enough to bankrupt Spyker.....goodluck
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    08-06-2012 02:26 PM #22
    Spyker's tacky cars not making revenue so they need to sue for money?

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    08-06-2012 02:56 PM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    Don't **** with the Dutch, they've got the backing of the EU. GM WILL PAY.
    Because backing a small high end automotive company's dick measuring contest of a law suit with millions of dollars is definitely something the EU is looking into doing right now given their current economic climate.
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    You could not give me an auction-rat sub $10k E39 M5 for all the blow in Cartegena. Which probably would have at some point been in the trunk of said M5.

  24. 08-06-2012 02:59 PM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
    GM should just wait 3 years. By then, depreciation will have the lawsuit down to like $10,000
    Hahahaha

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    08-06-2012 03:07 PM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by SebTheDJ View Post
    I hope they win. GM purposely killed off the saab brand.
    Why would they attempt to keep open a car company that has zero chance of ever being anything more than an oddity that makes mediocre cars and hasn't been profitable in decades?
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  26. 08-06-2012 03:08 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by StormChaser View Post
    Why would they attempt to keep open a car company that has zero chance of ever being anything more than an oddity that makes mediocre cars and hasn't been profitable in decades?
    To F with GM and eliminate VW's competition.

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    08-06-2012 03:16 PM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    The mediocrity didn't come into play until Saab's became cars based off of GM platforms.
    You should go on tour with that sh1t! Seriously.
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    08-06-2012 03:16 PM #28
    Spyker NV is up 75% on the news today!....

    ...from 0.04 to 0.07 EUR (market cap EUR 1.9 mil)

  29. 08-06-2012 03:34 PM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by StormChaser View Post
    You should go on tour with that sh1t! Seriously.
    He's not far wrong. "Here's a Vectra, do something with it. Oh, and make it work for 10 years."
    And that's just the 93. Forget the 9-5, built on a platform that came out in 1988.

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    08-06-2012 03:35 PM #30
    They're mad that GM didn't want the Chinese to buy Saab and still all of GM's IP to make their own Chinese cars based on an excellent platform and motors. Spyker should know their role and shut their mouth and keep designing ugly supercars.
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  31. 08-06-2012 03:53 PM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
    GM should just wait 3 years. By then, depreciation will have the lawsuit down to like $10,000
    Thread's over mother****ers, everybody go home.

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    08-06-2012 04:02 PM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by mawingo View Post
    He's not far wrong. "Here's a Vectra, do something with it. Oh, and make it work for 10 years."
    And that's just the 93. Forget the 9-5, built on a platform that came out in 1988.
    Name a world-class Saab that actually did as well or better than it's direct competition after say 1965 or 1970. The 900 sure wasn't, nor was the 9000. I like Saabs, but to put all the blame on GM is ludicrous...they were never GREAT cars and never sold well enough to survive a downturn in the economy even at their best. The recession did us a favor and killed off weaker car brands.
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    08-06-2012 04:04 PM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
    GM should just wait 3 years. By then, depreciation will have the lawsuit down to like $10,000
    Laughed so hard on this

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    08-06-2012 04:24 PM #34
    Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
    Spyker's tacky cars not making revenue so they need to sue for money?
    Somebody gets it.

  35. 08-06-2012 04:36 PM #35
    Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
    Somebody gets it.
    A non-biased opinion.

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