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    08-06-2012 02:48 PM #1
    Just as titled...

    If I removed my rear seats, should I contact my insurance company and file as a 2 seater or what? does it matter? Can I get in trouble if I get in an accident and they're not i nthere (being if there are no rear passengers of course because there never will be)

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    08-06-2012 02:51 PM #2
    WTF? No. Taking the rear seats out of a GLI does not make it a 2 seater. Nobody will care.

  3. 08-06-2012 02:53 PM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    Just as titled...

    If I removed my rear seats, should I contact my insurance company and file as a 2 seater or what? does it matter? Can I get in trouble if I get in an accident and they're not i nthere (being if there are no rear passengers of course because there never will be)

    Thanks!

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    08-06-2012 02:54 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by MrMook View Post
    WTF? No. Taking the rear seats out of a GLI does not make it a 2 seater. Nobody will care.
    That's what I'm thinking. thanks for the response! I was just curious about accidents. I am going to call Progressive anonymously to ask - just in case- I am paranoid
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    08-06-2012 02:56 PM #5
    Dude

    You're fine. It will be so much faster with the weight savings.

    Why are you taking out the seats ....
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    08-06-2012 02:59 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    That's what I'm thinking. thanks for the response! I was just curious about accidents. I am going to call Progressive anonymously to ask - just in case- I am paranoid
    You might also want to ask about removing your spare, and not running floor mats.

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    08-06-2012 03:03 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    That's what I'm thinking. thanks for the response! I was just curious about accidents. I am going to call Progressive anonymously to ask - just in case- I am paranoid
    this is a bad idea do not give them any reason to even suspect

    just do it

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    08-06-2012 03:05 PM #9
    You're cool for trying to make me look the idiot. However, I am being cautious and responsible for keeping my insurance company up to speed with the state of my vehicle.

    I removed them for transporting large, enterprise level infrastructure equipment.

    Also, I just got off the phone with progressive, and you DO have to adjust your policy if you're removing the seats for commercial use, but for personal use you're in the clear ( for those of us who care).
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    08-06-2012 03:06 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by JettaGT8V80 View Post
    this is a bad idea do not give them any reason to even suspect

    just do it
    Thank you for an adult-esque response - done.
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  11. 08-06-2012 03:07 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    You're cool for trying to make me look the idiot. However, I am being cautious and responsible for keeping my insurance company up to speed with the state of my vehicle.

    I removed them for transporting large, enterprise level infrastructure equipment.

    Also, I just got off the phone with progressive, and you DO have to adjust your policy if you're removing the seats for commercial use, but for personal use you're in the clear ( for those of us who care).
    Duh. Any time your using your car for commercial purposes when stated as personal, you're supposed to inform your carrier. That's actually a significant change.

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    08-06-2012 03:08 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by cryption View Post
    Dude

    You're fine. It will be so much faster with the weight savings.

    Why are you taking out the seats ....
    Moron...

    Ever think he might need the extra space? I take mine out in the winter so I don't have to wrestle with my BMX bike (I like warm grips)

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    08-06-2012 03:09 PM #13
    I would say that removing two out of four seats of a passenger vehicle is a significant change. That is just me though.
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  14. 08-06-2012 03:15 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    I would say that removing two out of four seats of a passenger vehicle is a significant change. That is just me though.
    Depends on the purpose. Why are you removing them? As you stated above for commercial purposes, then yes, that is significant. If you just wanted to remove weight and never used them, no.

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    08-06-2012 03:20 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by surefooted View Post
    Depends on the purpose. Why are you removing them? As you stated above for commercial purposes, then yes, that is significant. If you just wanted to remove weight and never used them, no.
    You are literally cutting in HALF one of the main components of a "passenger vehicle"; Seating. That is significant. True enough, not significant enough for my insurance company to care, yet, still significant.
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    08-06-2012 03:20 PM #16
    I never had my back seat in my MK2 golf. Just couldn't be bothered to put it back in once I took it out. Never used it for commercial use though. It was nice having a huge back area for odds and ends and random chore running.
    Last edited by hipster.; 08-06-2012 at 03:30 PM.

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    08-06-2012 03:26 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by hipster. View Post
    I never had my back seat in my MK2 golf. Just couldn't be bothered to put it back in once I took it out. Never used it for commercial use though. It was nice having a huge back area for odds and ends and random choir running.
    Word, yes, it is very handy! thank you for the input.
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    08-06-2012 03:28 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by 10-25 View Post
    Moron...

    Ever think he might need the extra space? I take mine out in the winter so I don't have to wrestle with my BMX bike (I like warm grips)
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  19. 08-06-2012 03:34 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    You are literally cutting in HALF one of the main components of a "passenger vehicle"; Seating. That is significant. True enough, not significant enough for my insurance company to care, yet, still significant.
    If that seat isn't used for seating in the first place does it really count?

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    08-06-2012 03:37 PM #20
    I really can't imagine what the concern is, or would be, if a seat was removed. If anything, it's safer for the driver and remaining passenger, since 3 less occupants would be in the car. And a rear seat is designed to be folded down anyway, so it's not like you're removing some sort of bulkhead that is required to be in place for carrying cargo.

    It's a non-issue.

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    08-06-2012 05:18 PM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    I would say that removing two out of four seats of a passenger vehicle is a significant change. That is just me though.
    If this is the case, then I'm calling for a discount.


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    08-06-2012 05:27 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    You are literally cutting in HALF one of the main components of a "passenger vehicle"; Seating. That is significant. True enough, not significant enough for my insurance company to care, yet, still significant.
    You're not literally cutting anything in half unless all the seats in your car are one gigantic subassembly.
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    08-06-2012 05:30 PM #23
    commercial use coverage is substantially different from personal use coverage.

    removal of the seats is anectdotal, and not the reason for insurance concern.
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    08-06-2012 05:31 PM #24
    so... you basically just tipped off your insurance company that perhaps your using your vehicle for business and not personal use... which could necessitate a significant increase in your insurance and require you to get a commercial plate...

    or not... depends on your state I guess.

    Let's put it this way: if you own a Suburban with the 3rd row seat (which is REMOVABLE) you don't need to tell your insurance when you're taking it out despite it removing 2 of the 8 seats.

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    08-06-2012 05:44 PM #25
    hey im removing back seats on my bmw and putting in half cage oh and swapping an engine from m50 to s52. guess what insurance will not care its still 325 to them

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    08-06-2012 05:47 PM #26
    Always ran my Mazda3 without rear seat because of my bike...

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    08-07-2012 02:39 PM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Chapel View Post
    so... you basically just tipped off your insurance company that perhaps your using your vehicle for business and not personal use... which could necessitate a significant increase in your insurance and require you to get a commercial plate...

    or not... depends on your state I guess.

    Let's put it this way: if you own a Suburban with the 3rd row seat (which is REMOVABLE) you don't need to tell your insurance when you're taking it out despite it removing 2 of the 8 seats.
    No, I called from work, anonymously. They said it's totally fine.
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    08-07-2012 02:47 PM #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris16vRocco View Post
    You're not literally cutting anything in half unless all the seats in your car are one gigantic subassembly.
    You're right. To make my statement correct I would have to use the verb decreasing, and that would only make it correct by the physical segments of the seats, since there is technically seating for five.

    Bringing your argument to light makes mine stronger. In stead of decreasing seating by 50%, it is decreasing seating by 60%.
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    08-07-2012 02:51 PM #29
    Insurance actuaries factor in the number of designated seating positions, which is a figure established by the vehicle manufacturer. Removing the seat cushion doesn't change the fact that your Jetta has 5 designated seating positions.

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    08-07-2012 02:53 PM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Unktone View Post
    You're right. To make my statement correct I would have to use the verb decreasing, and that would only make it correct by the physical segments of the seats, since there is technically seating for five.

    Bringing your argument to light makes mine stronger. In stead of decreasing seating by 50%, it is decreasing seating by 60%.
    I still don't understand why anyone thinks reducing seating makes a car any more of a liability. It's effectively the same as not carrying any rear passengers in the first place.

    Your insurance company says it doesn't matter, because it doesn't.
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    08-07-2012 04:39 PM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
    Insurance actuaries factor in the number of designated seating positions, which is a figure established by the vehicle manufacturer. Removing the seat cushion doesn't change the fact that your Jetta has 5 designated seating positions.
    Thanks for the info. Seems so in the US. I know that in Australia if you remove seats, Insurance companies actually consider it LESS of a liability because that means there will be less people in your automobile that can possibly make a claim in the event of an accident.
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    Dodge Caravan sports car bisches!

    Payin`ultra high exotic car insurance premiums `n shiz.


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    08-07-2012 04:45 PM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by MrMook View Post
    I still don't understand why anyone thinks reducing seating makes a car any more of a liability. It's effectively the same as not carrying any rear passengers in the first place.

    Your insurance company says it doesn't matter, because it doesn't.
    I never said I thought it was more of a liability because I don't think it is more of a liability. Insurance companies can be fussy, and I like to be legitimate and compliant with their guidelines since they're the ones that are going to be paying for anything that happens to me or my vehicle while I am operating it. It would be better to ask questions than to assume and have to foot medical bills and be out a car (I have health insurance but still out a car).
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    Dodge Caravan sports car bisches!

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    Made me LOL.


    In that case:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
    Dodge Caravan sports car bisches!

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    lol
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