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      09-16-2012 02:03 PM #491
      Want. If a sport manual is anywhere as fun as driving as the Fit it'll be hard for me to resist a more comfortable sedan.

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      09-16-2012 03:13 PM #492
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      You can't get an EX-L with manual? WTF, I had one in my 1998 Coupe

      So if you want a couple with leather and a stick you're forced into buying the unicorn that is the V6 6MT coupe
      yup...see the current TL 6MT + G37S. They figure if you really want it you might as well get their maxed out spec lol.
      Quote Originally Posted by konigwheels View Post
      Wow, it amazes me that we have children in here that can't read a couple paragraphs. No wonder America's doing so well in education! Can't take the time to read, but sure can find the time to post. Self indulgence at it's finest.

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      09-16-2012 03:18 PM #493
      Just saw the new 2013 sedan. I swear, if the salesguy didn't point it out to me, I would've walked right past it. It looks that similar to the outgoing model.

      There is a weird proportion of the hood vs the trunk on the car. The trunk looks lower, or less prominent, than the hood. I think it's the pedestrian safety rules now. Not attractive.

      Lots of great photos of the Honda Accord Sport at Temple of Vtec:
      http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...cle_id=1091405
      Last edited by randy; 09-16-2012 at 09:06 PM.
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      09-18-2012 08:56 PM #494
      Aw darn. The Accord Sport does not come with a sunroof, even as an option.

      Plus, the rear seats are not 60/40 split. DO NOT WANT.
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      09-18-2012 09:42 PM #495
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      You can't get an EX-L with manual? WTF, I had one in my 1998 Coupe

      So if you want a couple with leather and a stick you're forced into buying the unicorn that is the V6 6MT coupe
      Because car manufacturers think of manuals in cars in one of two ways.

      1. Cheap-ass base spec model that nobody wants any features in because they're looking for the cheapest car on the lot
      2. Loaded to the gills sport model with the big engine, wheels, brakes, etc.

      Realistically, the auto manufacturers are pretty smart to only regard manuals in that dichotomy in this country because it's a pretty accurate representation of the manual transmission-buying public at large.

    6. 09-18-2012 10:01 PM #496
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      Because car manufacturers think of manuals in cars in one of two ways.

      1. Cheap-ass base spec model that nobody wants any features in because they're looking for the cheapest car on the lot
      2. Loaded to the gills sport model with the big engine, wheels, brakes, etc.

      Realistically, the auto manufacturers are pretty smart to only regard manuals in that dichotomy in this country because it's a pretty accurate representation of the manual transmission-buying public at large.
      This. Outside of car guys like us, the demand for stick is remote among the general public; and even less in the midsize segment.

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      09-18-2012 11:36 PM #497
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      So if you want a couple with leather and a stick
      saywhatnowagain????

      Rest easy, Bart.

    8. 09-18-2012 11:45 PM #498
      Quote Originally Posted by randy View Post
      Aw darn. The Accord Sport does not come with a sunroof, even as an option.

      Plus, the rear seats are not 60/40 split. DO NOT WANT.
      What is with the accord not having a 60/40 split while the Civic has it?

    9. 09-19-2012 04:31 PM #499
      I wonder why the coupe is not being offered with the 4 cylinder Sports trim? To me that makes even more sense than offering in the sedan.

    10. 09-21-2012 09:29 PM #500
      Stopped by a local dealer today. It looks much better in person compared to the pictures. There was a comment somewhere the Sport only comes in Black or grey, but the dealer had a blue Sport. One of the things that seems awkward is the large font print on the controls. Just seems larger compared to the size of most cars.

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      09-21-2012 09:33 PM #501
      Quote Originally Posted by Hufeisen View Post
      There was a comment somewhere the Sport only comes in Black or grey, but the dealer had a blue Sport.
      It was an automatic.

      I know this because the manual Sports only come in black or grey.
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      09-21-2012 10:18 PM #502
      Quote Originally Posted by VarianceVQ View Post
      It was an automatic.

      I know this because the manual Sports only come in black or grey.
      Wow...just looked: if you want a row-your-own Accord, the only cars available are Black, Grey, or Silver, and you only get two of those choices per trim level (LX, Sport, EX).

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      09-21-2012 10:39 PM #503
      Quote Originally Posted by Aw614 View Post
      What is with the accord not having a 60/40 split while the Civic has it?
      Quote Originally Posted by randy View Post
      Aw darn. The Accord Sport does not come with a sunroof, even as an option.

      Plus, the rear seats are not 60/40 split. DO NOT WANT.
      Torsional rigidity.

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      09-22-2012 12:03 AM #504
      Quote Originally Posted by baljet View Post
      Torsional rigidity.
      VW's sedans all offer 60/40 splits, and they have pretty strong torsional rigidity.
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      09-22-2012 12:24 AM #505
      Quote Originally Posted by randy View Post
      VW's sedans all offer 60/40 splits, and they have pretty strong torsional rigidity.
      Cars that don't have 60/40 splits have supporting bars running across behind the rear seats for better rigidity. Not sure why that's so important in a family sedan, but whatever.

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      09-22-2012 01:22 AM #506
      Hmm.. interesting to note that the Sport 6spd M/T can be had with any color in Canada!
      Also, heated seats come standard on the Sport for us. Still no sunroof

      WHOA!!!
      We also get a special 4 cylinder Touring sedan, available with manual transmission and in any colors!! It's fully loaded with SATNAV, LEDs front + back, and front + rear heated seats..
      Do want!!!
      Last edited by too_slow; 09-22-2012 at 01:25 AM.

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      09-22-2012 01:50 AM #507
      Quote Originally Posted by too_slow View Post
      WHOA!!!
      We also get a special 4 cylinder Touring sedan, available with manual transmission and in any colors!! It's fully loaded with SATNAV, LEDs front + back, and front + rear heated seats..
      Do want!!!
      Are you kidding?

      WTF, Honda.

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      09-22-2012 08:52 AM #508
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      Are you kidding?

      WTF, Honda.
      lol i actually thought he was trolling but its true. An essentially fully loaded 4cyl with MT that's available in red and white (plus the usual gray and black colors). The sport does have the blue color that everyone seems to want + MT. Still I doubt a 4cyl touring would sell well here given it would be 31k. Also Canada gets the sport rims on the touring and other V6 models whereas the US only gets those on the 4cyl sport.
      Quote Originally Posted by konigwheels View Post
      Wow, it amazes me that we have children in here that can't read a couple paragraphs. No wonder America's doing so well in education! Can't take the time to read, but sure can find the time to post. Self indulgence at it's finest.

      TL;DR should be banned and changed to ID;CR or I'm dumb, can't read.

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      09-22-2012 11:29 AM #509
      Quote Originally Posted by gti5dr06 View Post
      lol i actually thought he was trolling but its true. An essentially fully loaded 4cyl with MT that's available in red and white (plus the usual gray and black colors). The sport does have the blue color that everyone seems to want + MT. Still I doubt a 4cyl touring would sell well here given it would be 31k. Also Canada gets the sport rims on the touring and other V6 models whereas the US only gets those on the 4cyl sport.

      Did you see our freight+PDI costs? $1800!!!!!!

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      09-22-2012 12:26 PM #510
      Quote Originally Posted by gti5dr06 View Post
      lol i actually thought he was trolling but its true. An essentially fully loaded 4cyl with MT that's available in red and white (plus the usual gray and black colors). The sport does have the blue color that everyone seems to want + MT. Still I doubt a 4cyl touring would sell well here given it would be 31k. Also Canada gets the sport rims on the touring and other V6 models whereas the US only gets those on the 4cyl sport.
      I don't think most Americas would have a problem with a 31K Accord, some of the Accord's competition is or will soon be moving into that price bracket (a loaded Fusion SE is over 31K, a loaded Malibu LTZ is 33K!) I think the problem right now is the fact that Acura still needs the TSX to move volume. If I recall the "TSX" is essentially the best selling version of the Euro-Accord version. The new Accord EX-L has as much if not more content available than the current TSX does, you bring the Accord touring I4 into the mix at an MSRP around the same price as the current TSX and the new ILX and I think it will kill sales for the car.

      After we get a new TL(X) which everyone knows will slot in size between the current TL and the current TSX, sales will probably be on the level of what the previous TL used to be, and once the TSX is dead I'm hoping Honda will expand the Accord's lineup. The Sport would be my model of choice (based on looks) but its way too under equipped for what I'm used to driving.

      As more than a few vtec.net readers have mentioned, the Sport/Touring lineups need to be expanded...some of us Honda enthusiast are waiting in line for Honda to do just that, or I'm going across the street to Ford and buying a Fusion SE 1.6 6mt.
      Last edited by rlaltiowner05; 09-22-2012 at 12:29 PM.

    21. 09-22-2012 12:52 PM #511
      Quote Originally Posted by too_slow View Post
      Hmm.. interesting to note that the Sport 6spd M/T can be had with any color in Canada!
      Also, heated seats come standard on the Sport for us. Still no sunroof

      WHOA!!!
      We also get a special 4 cylinder Touring sedan, available with manual transmission and in any colors!! It's fully loaded with SATNAV, LEDs front + back, and front + rear heated seats..
      Do want!!!
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      Are you kidding?

      WTF, Honda.

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      09-22-2012 01:22 PM #512
      Quote Originally Posted by VarianceVQ View Post
      It was an automatic.

      I know this because the manual Sports only come in black or grey.
      It was a CVT.

      I know this because Honda replaced all automatics in the Accord with CVT

    23. 09-22-2012 01:33 PM #513
      ^^

      Not true exactly. You can get 6A in V6.

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      09-22-2012 02:15 PM #514
      Drove a CVT Sport this morning. Fantastic car. If only it came in wagon...

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    26. 09-22-2012 04:59 PM #516
      The Accord 2013 EX-L CVT is an extraordinary lease deal here.

      With 48mo / 96000km, it is 364$ + txs. 418.50$/mo just retail no money down.

      To understand how great it is, my 1999 EX-L auto (November 1998) was also 419$/mo 14 years ago, after a reduction of 1850$ on MSRP (27500$ paid 29350$ retail) and 1100$ down!!!!!
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      09-22-2012 05:49 PM #517
      Quote Originally Posted by Saintor View Post
      The Accord 2013 EX-L CVT is an extraordinary lease deal here.

      With 48mo / 96000km, it is 364$ + txs. 418.50$/mo just retail no money down.

      To understand how great it is, my 1999 EX-L auto (November 1998) was also 419$/mo 14 years ago, after a reduction of 1850$ on MSRP (27500$ paid 29350$ retail) and 1100$ down!!!!!
      Resale value will probably be excellent.

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      09-22-2012 11:01 PM #518
      http://honda.ca/accord_sedan/touring_10165/specs

      This is beyond disappointing to me. How can Honda screw Americans this badly? I will be seriously considering an Accord in a few years once my lease is up on my Chevy Volt - I'm really longing for something with a manual transmission. It aggravates me to no end that manual enthusiasts are always getting screwed by Honda when it comes to features and content.

      If Canukzistan can get it, there should be no reason we can't get a 6-speed manual touring sedan in America.

    29. 09-22-2012 11:07 PM #519
      Despite in NA, Canada is like Europe in some ways.

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      09-22-2012 11:43 PM #520
      Quote Originally Posted by too_slow View Post
      Hmm.. interesting to note that the Sport 6spd M/T can be had with any color in Canada!
      Also, heated seats come standard on the Sport for us. Still no sunroof

      WHOA!!!
      We also get a special 4 cylinder Touring sedan, available with manual transmission and in any colors!! It's fully loaded with SATNAV, LEDs front + back, and front + rear heated seats..
      Do want!!!
      Too bad the dealership experience stinks.

      I got treated like dirt at 3 of the Honda dealerships in the Lower Mainland.

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      10-07-2012 01:37 PM #521
      Looked at the new Accord yesterday. Only the Touring trim with the LED headlights interested me.

      I'm glad you can pick one up with the 4-cyl instead of being offered only for the 6-cyl.

      Car's just beautiful.

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      10-07-2012 02:03 PM #522
      Quote Originally Posted by rbloedow View Post
      http://honda.ca/accord_sedan/touring_10165/specs

      This is beyond disappointing to me. How can Honda screw Americans this badly? I will be seriously considering an Accord in a few years once my lease is up on my Chevy Volt - I'm really longing for something with a manual transmission. It aggravates me to no end that manual enthusiasts are always getting screwed by Honda when it comes to features and content.

      If Canukzistan can get it, there should be no reason we can't get a 6-speed manual touring sedan in America.
      Because they'll sell 8 of them in America and it's not worth the trouble.

      You're asking for a sporty feature in the most amazingly vanilla segment of the market.

      Are you pissed that McDonald's doesn't offer a Kobe beef burger with truffle fries and bottles of Bollinger?

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      10-07-2012 03:39 PM #523
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      Because they'll sell 8 of them in America and it's not worth the trouble.

      You're asking for a sporty feature in the most amazingly vanilla segment of the market.

      Are you pissed that McDonald's doesn't offer a Kobe beef burger with truffle fries and bottles of Bollinger?
      I guess they expect to sell about 8 LX, Sport and EX models too, since they too are available with the manual transmission. This segment may be "vanilla" but there are still a few of us who prefer to row our own gears (I happen to be one of them.) My current car is an Accord EX-L 5spd manual sedan...its been a really good car but its showing its age and it lacks so much of the technological features I'd want in a car now. I want something new, something midsize and something available with a stick shift and some upscale features. I'm left with the Accord EX (which doesn't have XM) or the Ford Fusion SE, which has everything I'd want except push button start. I'd PREFER an Accord Sport, but its placed below the EX in the Accord lineup and its content is too low for my taste. So it will be either Fusion or Focus Titanium for me.

      The Accord began its decline of manual transmission on most models after the first year or two of the previous generation, right around MY2010. It's no wonder that generation didn't sell well with a stick shift, it was too big, too bulky and not as nimple as the 7th generation was. This new one is about the size of my Accord and its more upscale looking, and in Sport trim, downright sporty looking.


      Even IF only about 8 people wanted to buy a manual transmission Accord Touring, considering Honda is offering the car for the Canadian market, and considering the fact that the Canadian Accord is built on the same assembly line as US Accords in the great state of Ohio, Honda could at least allow those of us who'd want an Accord Touring I4 6spd to order the car if we'd want it. You don't have to place them on the lots, but we should be able to at least order the car if we'd want to. That way you won't have a bunch of manual transmission cars sitting on lots for those who don't want them, but you'd be able to cater to the small, but loyal demand of those who do like to row our own gears. Seems pretty simple to me .

      That's exactly what I hear Ford will be doing with the new Fusion.
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      10-09-2012 08:12 PM #524
      There's a white Sport coming in this weekend at my dealer. I may end up getting it.

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      10-10-2012 09:10 PM #525
      My only concern with the Sport trim is the 4 speaker audio system. I mean, I guess it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but I would have to bring some good music on the test drive to see if I could live with it.

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