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      08-08-2012 04:14 PM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      You know what I think? I think 10-12 years from now you will be able to count on one hand the number of unscheduled trips to the dealer the Accord will make, and the Ford will be ready for the junkyard. Ford's short-lived billing as an automaker equal to Toyota in terms of quality/reliability was remarkably short lived. SYNC/MyFordTouch pretty much sucks, and I wouldn't be shocked if their Ecoboost engines see serious deposit issues down the road, or see things like cracked dashes or peeling paint (not that Honda paint quality is remarkable).
      Agreed that MyFordTouch is awful, and as for the paint quality I detailed a 2011 Explorer yesterday with 13000km on it and the paint was all chipped along the bottom inside edge of all 4 doors. Probably a design flaw and they rub on something? Anyone else been around any of these and notice the same thing?

      Back on topic, I think the Accord is much better looking than the one it's replacing. Clean & simple FTW.

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      08-08-2012 04:20 PM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by zerotosixty View Post
      Is it just VW having DI issues? BMW, MB, GM, etc are all have carbon buildup problems. What sort of guarantee do you have that Honda won't have these issues?

      The only company who has come up with a valid fix to the DI issue is Lexus with their D4-S Dual Injection system.
      I never said there was a valid fix I just don't count jumping in technology and having issues as a sign one automaker is better than another. We could apply to same to other features like Ford SYNC.

      As for DI from my limited understanding of the subject the issues are caused by design with how fuel is sprayed, Toyota and now Honda with the Earthdream engine series are supposed to include port injection. Reading up port injection is supposed to be useful and primarily for around town low load conditions... which is where carbon buildup may most likely occur.

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      08-08-2012 04:21 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by zerotosixty View Post

      That being said, new Fusion for me.
      How can you or anyone who calls themselves an automotive enthusiast choose the new Accord or Fusion without ever driving either car?

      That said....The Passat & 12 Accord are the best drivers in this class (my opinion).
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    4. 08-08-2012 04:24 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      Let's not get crazy now. The new Altima has a sleek exterior, but the interior is quite dull. Even moreso than the Camry. The quality seems high though.

      This is one of the worst pictures of the Altima interior i've seen with the lack of depth not showing any of the design features.

      This one below shows the interior for what it is, and it is very nice for the segment.

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      08-08-2012 04:25 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      I hope i'm wrong, but I get the feeling the Fusion will suffer the same fate as the Taurus which looks great on pictures but the flesh it looks too big and bulbous.
      I've seen the new Fusion in person and it's not a huge pig like the Taurus is. If I was in a market for a midsize sedan I'd probably go with the Fusion. Out of all of them it looks the best. The Camry, Accord and Altima look pretty pathetic, the Sonata and Optima have too much going on, and the Passat's exterior is just too boring. The Fusion is 'just right'

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      08-08-2012 04:31 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      This is one of the worst pictures of the Altima interior i've seen with the lack of depth not showing any of the design features.

      This one below shows the interior for what it is, and it is very nice for the segment.
      O..M..G.. That looks totally different!
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      08-08-2012 04:32 PM #112
      Koko12:

      It doesn't matter. The Altima, to my eye, is still near the bottom fo the pack in terms of interior design. The same place it has always been. Again, the quality seems much better than prior-gens, but stylewise there is very little visual interest IMO. I prefer the Fusion/Optima/Sonata and even Malibu. I'm reserving judgement of the Accord interior until I see a better pic, but it looks fairly promising.

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      08-08-2012 04:32 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      Let's not get crazy now. The new Altima has a sleek exterior, but the interior is quite dull. Even moreso than the Camry. The quality seems high though.

      I'm going to post another picture of the Altima's interior. I think it's a great, straightforward design, much better than the Camry's.

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      08-08-2012 04:37 PM #114
      Quote Originally Posted by pontiac View Post
      Back on topic, I think the Accord is much better looking than the one it's replacing. Clean & simple FTW.
      Agreed, I like it very much. A slight downsize was a good move as well.
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      08-08-2012 04:47 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      Agreed, I like it very much. A slight downsize was a good move as well.
      Too bad it took an entire generation of sales for them to get right what they should have in 2008.
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      08-08-2012 05:00 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
      Too bad it took an entire generation of sales for them to get right what they should have in 2008.
      didnt seem to hurt them...sales wide anyway. Accord is still the #2 Sedan in the segment...even on its last legs.

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      08-08-2012 05:01 PM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by a2a4raddo View Post
      didnt seem to hurt them...sales wide anyway. Accord is still the #2 Sedan in the segment...even on its last legs.
      I thought the Altima was #2 for 2011?
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      08-08-2012 05:13 PM #118
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      Do they though?

      My take? There are enough "agressively styled" cars in this class, especially with the upcoming Fusion and 6, so Honda was fighting a losing battle. They've never been known for building styling knockouts so unless they hired some amazing new design talent, it just wasn't going to happen. I think staying conservative and subdued yet reasonably classy and upscale looking will serve them well. Heck, it's working just fine for the Passat. And it served the prior Malibu well.

      Feel free to disagree.

      I agree 100%. Hondas have never been style leaders anyway. They've always made very subdued, yet still very good looking cars. IMO, this is a return to the design philosophy Honda had throughout the 90's. Which I think is a very good thing, as those cars have aged extremely well.

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      08-08-2012 05:21 PM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      I thought the Altima was #2 for 2011?
      It was #2 for 2011. Honda had major set backs and was hurt more then Nissan or Toyota both with the Tsunami followed by the flooding in Thailand.

      That said, they are very very very close currently with the Accord ahead by a few units.

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      08-08-2012 06:14 PM #120
      Glad Honda is buckin' the trend with making their new models bigger and bigger The size of the current Accord is just

      But I'll reserve judgement until the official specs are out. If it's like an inch there and 1/2 an inch there then--->

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      08-08-2012 07:16 PM #121
      looks good enough to be a top 2 midsize sedan for sure. i think it's a big improvement. honda knows they can't gamble with the design. civic is still the best seller after all that criticism.

    17. 08-08-2012 07:18 PM #122
      I like it. Specially with the 3.5L V6 that are disappearing quickly for questionable reasons.
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      08-08-2012 07:27 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      This is one of the worst pictures of the Altima interior i've seen with the lack of depth not showing any of the design features.

      This one below shows the interior for what it is, and it is very nice for the segment.


      i think it's good enough for the segment, but not great. just too conservative and the material is ok, not great. i do think it's better than the camry interior. i really despise the camry interior.

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      08-08-2012 07:28 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by Bones_Jones View Post
      i think it's good enough for the segment, but not great. just too conservative and the material is ok, not great. i do think it's better than the camry interior. i really despise the camry interior.
      Don't worry, it's much better than the Sonata and Optima interior

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      08-08-2012 07:33 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      Looks the same to me. Maybe they just clipped the overhangs.
      This. It looks very similar to the 8th generation.

    21. 08-08-2012 08:40 PM #126
      Way too similar...



    22. 08-08-2012 08:42 PM #127
      Not feeling it, not even the coupe. Give me a current gen Accord instead.

    23. 08-08-2012 08:44 PM #128
      Eh

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      08-08-2012 09:07 PM #129
      Quote Originally Posted by mx5er View Post
      Glad Honda is buckin' the trend with making their new models bigger and bigger The size of the current Accord is just
      That IS the trend now! Cars are getting smaller, lighter, or both...

    25. 08-08-2012 09:17 PM #130
      Headlights remind me of a Lexus, taillights remind me of a Genesis, but overall, this is it's own car...I like it a lot better then the one now...just a matter of seeing one in person. More importantly looking forward to seeing the next Accord [JP]
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      08-08-2012 09:17 PM #131
      There really isn't that much change for the exterior.

      Interior is better, but I think people are used to their touch this touch that screens. Will still sell well because its a Honda.

    27. 08-08-2012 09:20 PM #132
      Quote Originally Posted by JeffIsLax View Post


      Looks like a Genesis Sedan
      first time I'm going to agree that something was ripped off a hyundai.

    28. 08-08-2012 09:25 PM #133
      Quote Originally Posted by Zed You View Post
      Way too similar...


      accord looks better.

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      This is the new Honda Legend. Acura RL will probably be axed for good, if it isn't, will have its own platform differentiating it from other Honda cars.

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      08-08-2012 09:28 PM #135
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      I'd still rock a Fusion over this warmed over redesign. Hell, even the Altima has more character.
      Same here, when it comes to looks, Honda is playing it too safe as usual with their Accord.

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      08-08-2012 09:29 PM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by DTMTrini View Post
      Headlights remind me of a Lexus, taillights remind me of a Genesis, but overall, this is it's own car...I like it a lot better then the one now...just a matter of seeing one in person. More importantly looking forward to seeing the next Accord [JP]
      ^^^ example of bias/hypocrite. If hyundai do it, it is Hyundai cannot design their own, they copied from everyone. Now Honda do it, it is "this is it's own car".
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    32. 08-08-2012 10:07 PM #137
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      That IS the trend now! Cars are getting smaller, lighter, or both...
      Nope. Try again, please...

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      08-08-2012 10:17 PM #138
      Looks great, much better than the 8th gen monstrosity
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      08-08-2012 10:22 PM #139
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      It doesn't matter. The Altima, to my eye, is still near the bottom fo the pack in terms of interior design. The same place it has always been. Again, the quality seems much better than prior-gens, but stylewise there is very little visual interest IMO. I prefer the Fusion/Optima/Sonata and even Malibu. I'm reserving judgement of the Accord interior until I see a better pic, but it looks fairly promising.
      I'm no fan of the interiors in recent Nissans and I totally liked the Altima interior. It avoids the button crazy look of the current Accord and still has actual knobs you can use to make adjustments. The materials, touch and feel are all substantially better. Is it a Passat - I wouldn't say so but it's not that far off. Style wise it may not be much to look at, but who needs a piece of art for an interior? That's what the M35/M45 is for.
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    35. 08-08-2012 11:51 PM #140
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      ^^^ example of bias/hypocrite. If hyundai do it, it is Hyundai cannot design their own, they copied from everyone. Now Honda do it, it is "this is it's own car".
      Exactly...if this was the other way around, people would be ripping hyundai a new one

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