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    Thread: No Response from ABS Module - Audi A5

    1. 08-08-2012 09:18 AM #1
      Tried to retrofit the Audi Hold Assit function to my Audi A5 3.0 TDI Quattro (MY2011). I followed the information as can be found at this link (http://www.a5oc.com/forums/a5-perfor...ld-assist.html). I was able to get the new leads into the ABS connector at locations 8 and 16 just fine. I then tried the last step, which is to code the ABS module (address 03) for the AHA function. At that point I was not able to get a response from the module anymore.

      I'm using an official VAG-cable (purchased through auto-intern in Germany) and the latest version of VCDS (scan can be found below).

      I'm ruling out a defective module at the moment as I did get a low tire pressure warning just the other day, which is controlled by the ABS module as well. In the meantime I have disconnected the new leads again but still cannot get access to the ABS module.

      What could be causing this and how can I troubleshoot? Is there a method to check the diagnostic communication to this module?

      Sunday,05,August,2012,16:33:29:07409
      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
      Data version: 20120401



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      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


      Chassis Type: 8T0
      Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 0E 10 15 16 17 18 19 42 46 52 53 55 56 5F
      69 6C

      VIN: WAUZZZ8T6BA020585 Mileage: 35350km/21965miles

      01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
      02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
      03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
      05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
      08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
      10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
      15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
      16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
      17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
      18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
      19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
      42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
      46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
      52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
      53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
      55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
      56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
      5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
      69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
      6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 01: Engine (J623-CCWA) Labels: 059-907-401-CAP.clb
      Part No SW: 8R0 907 401 J HW: 8K1 907 401 A
      Component: 3.0TDI EDC17 H08 0008
      Revision: 15H08---
      Coding: 0114002C241F0920
      Shop #: WSC 00900 211 85289
      ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0118R0907401J 001008
      ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0118R0907401J.rod
      VCID: 39411CB6B842B31

      No fault code found.
      Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels: 0B5-927-156.clb
      Part No SW: 8K1 927 156 H HW: 0B5 927 156 F
      Component: 0B5 30 TDIRdW H05 0004
      Revision: --H05--- Serial number: 0000000168
      Coding: 000001
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501 A02087
      ROD: EV_TCMDL501.rod
      VCID: 3A4303BABD44B89

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 03: ABS Brakes
      Cannot be reached

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
      Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CP HW: 8K0 907 064 CP
      Component: BCM2 2.0 H04 0430
      Revision: 00002001
      Coding: 010000
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      VCID: 803731521318A29

      Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 D HW: 8T0 959 754 D
      Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG H50 0071

      Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D HW: 8K0 905 852 D
      Component: J764 ELV MLB H37 0042

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: Redir Fail!
      Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
      Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0180
      Revision: C1000000 Serial number: 01180820100024
      Coding: 361A0000
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      VCID: 803731521318A29

      1 Fault Found:
      01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
      008 - Implausible Signal
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101000
      Fault Priority: 7
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 77
      Mileage: 35352 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2012.08.05
      Time: 16:29:03


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      Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
      Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P HW: 8K0 907 063 P
      Component: BCM1 1.0 H29 0392
      Revision: 10029001 Serial number: 00000000766541
      Coding: 2600D0914134AF213409000300005D5D4F9C63880201014100 0000
      Shop #: WSC 00900 211 85289
      VCID: 3C4F05A2BF70869

      Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T1 955 119 D HW: 8J1 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
      Component: WWS 190810 H14 0070
      Coding: 00FD11

      Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559 HW: 8K0 955 559 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
      Component: RLS H04 0003
      Coding: 03532C

      Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AL HW: 8K0 941 531 AL
      Component: E1 - LDS H08 0090

      1 Fault Found:
      03207 - Charisma Switch Module
      004 - No Signal/Communication
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01100100
      Fault Priority: 3
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 51
      Mileage: 32942 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2012.07.14
      Time: 18:05:00


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 0E: Media Player 1
      Cannot be reached

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 8K0-919-475.clb
      Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 R HW: 8K0 919 475 A
      Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0070
      Revision: 11001001 Serial number: 50941023201739
      Coding: 310101
      Shop #: WSC 00900 211 85289
      VCID: 48A76972FBA8DA9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
      Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 J HW: 8K0 959 655 J
      Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H41 0610
      Serial number: 003GKD0JSXVY
      Coding: 30313433363030303030554A304C38543053
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
      ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
      VCID: 44BF7D42CF80FE9

      Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
      Serial number: 6334MSME56754822C

      Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side:
      Serial number: 6344MSME561108252

      Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side:
      Serial number: 6352QSME2C6E3738W

      Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side:
      Serial number: 6362QSME496C433EX

      Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
      Serial number: 63732SME286C2E101

      Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side:
      Serial number: 63832SME246C1C0A4

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
      Part No SW: 8R0 953 568 K HW: 8R0 953 568 K
      Component: Lenks.Modul H06 0156
      Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 20100817000297
      Coding: 000036
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      VCID: 49A16C76E0A2231

      Component: E221 - MFL H02 0010

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
      Part No SW: 8T0 920 931 M HW: 8T0 920 931 M
      Component: KOMBIINSTR. H38 0258
      Revision: 00000000 Serial number: EHX149V7A
      Coding: 0F1F010003000008010000
      Shop #: WSC 00900 211 85289
      VCID: 41B17456D892EB1

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 18: Aux. Heat (J364) Labels: None
      Part No SW: 4H0 265 105 A HW: 4H0 265 105 A
      Component: Standheizung H22 0240
      Revision: 56005006 Serial number: 20100715110159
      Coding: 5D1000
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      VCID: 2077D1D233D8C29

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
      Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AD HW: 8T0 907 468 K
      Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0117
      Revision: EC000056 Serial number: 5600E107260139
      Coding: 00C303
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      VCID: 833D3E5E020EB91

      Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E HW: 8K0 915 181 E
      Component: J367-BDM H07 0170

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
      Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 M HW: 8T0 959 793 D
      Component: TSG FA H08 1401
      Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
      Coding: 011C02224000120102
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      VCID: 539D4E1E32EE691

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
      Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CP HW: 8K0 907 064 CP
      Component: BCM2 2.0 H04 0430
      Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0133491710
      Coding: 0100068000B904008120003280000000
      Shop #: WSC 00900 211 85289
      VCID: 803731521318A29

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
      Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 M HW: 8T0 959 792 D
      Component: TSG BF H08 1401
      Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
      Coding: 011C02224400120102
      Shop #: WSC 00900 211 85289
      VCID: 52934B1A0DF4609

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 53: Parking Brake (J540) Labels: 8K0-907-801.clb
      Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H HW: 8K0 907 801 H
      Component: EPB Audi B8 H09 0100
      Revision: 00000003 Serial number: 10000000587932
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 345F2D8297204E9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
      Part No: 8K5 907 357 B
      Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0010
      Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
      Coding: 0000002
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      VCID: 39411CB67042B31

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 56: Radio (R) Labels: Redir Fail!
      Part No SW: 4G0 035 056 HW: 4G0 035 056
      Component: Radio U STD H51 0051
      Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 469H50A7553826
      Coding: 010003020100000001
      Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
      VCID: DE8B2F2AC92C349

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
      Part No SW: 8T1 035 666 F HW: 8T1 035 666 E
      Component: H-BN-EU H49 0107
      Revision: -------- Serial number: 483H90A7649468
      Coding: 010100020106E3EF05000F1E000000030001
      Shop #: WSC 00900 211 85289
      VCID: 3D4908A6A46A8F1

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 R
      Component: EUR 2010 1107

      Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8F0 919 604 HW: 8F0 919 604
      Component: DU7 High H43 0084

      Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 609 F HW: 8T0 919 609 F
      Component: E0380 Bedient H08 0100

      Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961
      Component: CD-Database 1886

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels: 8K0-907-383.clb
      Part No SW: 8K0 907 383 E HW: 8K0 907 383 E
      Component: Anhaenger H09 0100
      Revision: 1A001001 Serial number: 00000170140948
      Coding: 0100000000000000
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 365B178A815C5C9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
      Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C HW: 4L0 907 441 B
      Component: J772__Rearview 0040
      Revision: --H05--- Serial number: 525PA8-J1X91T3
      Coding: 1020008
      Shop #: WSC 00900 211 105548
      VCID: 384719B24B48AA9

      No fault code found.

      End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    2. 08-08-2012 11:24 PM #2
      - Try disconnecting the ABS Control Unit - J104 for 20 minutes, then reconnect and see if it can communicate.

    3. 08-08-2012 11:41 PM #3
      THIS POST MOVED/VACATED BY JACK TO PROTECT CONTENT FALLING INTO THE GAPING HOLE OF THE VORTEX

      IT SEEMS NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaoySOGlZ_U
      Last edited by Jack@European Parts; 07-29-2014 at 10:21 PM.

    4. 08-09-2012 05:17 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
      I second that Peter.

      I would take it a step further doing a capacitor discharge bridge and then also even switch terminal 15 manually, to verify the eeprom can go night nights.
      I already had the negative pole of the battery disconnected for about 30 minutes to see if it would reset. That did not make a difference.

      @Jack - could you explain a little more how to do this capacitor bridge and/or switch terminal 15. Not 100% clear to me at this stage

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      08-09-2012 07:17 AM #5
      You are using an Auto-Intern Multiscan interface which isn't exactly the same as our HEX+CAN interfaces. The problem you are experiencing is a known incompatibility between Release 11.11.3 and the Multiscan interfaces, an updated Release 11.11.4 which fixes the issue will be made available ASAP. If you need immediate help, please contact us directly via email once you've registered for tech support.

    6. 08-09-2012 12:09 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Theresias View Post
      You are using an Auto-Intern Multiscan interface which isn't exactly the same as our HEX+CAN interfaces. The problem you are experiencing is a known incompatibility between Release 11.11.3 and the Multiscan interfaces, an updated Release 11.11.4 which fixes the issue will be made available ASAP. If you need immediate help, please contact us directly via email once you've registered for tech support.
      Theresias - thanks for this info. Any idea as tho when this update will be available. Weird thing is that I was able to communicate to the ABS module earlier. Will check if that was with an earlier release yes/no.

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      08-09-2012 04:05 PM #7
      As said, if you need urgent help please contact us/me directly via email once you've registered.

    8. 08-09-2012 10:38 PM #8
      It would be a good idea to do what the wizard has requested.

      He knows his stuff when it comes to those ABS modules.


      Cap discharge is when the battery is disconnected and then the the leads are tied together for at least a minute but with ignition key then also switched on during wait prior and then shut off before reconnected.

      Terminal 15 is key on voltage vs terminal 30 which is constant voltage B+

      Each controller has in most cases separate 15 and 30 circuits and sometimes multiple of both.
      Use WD to determine.

      A swap is done when 30 is powered up with 15 and then only 15 is released for 30-seconds to a minute, while 30 is used to save data before processor goes night nights.

    9. 08-10-2012 09:05 AM #9
      Believe I have this resolved.

      Based on feedback provided I tried with earlier version of VCDS (11.11.2) and I'm able to communicate fine with the controller. Will do the reprogram and see if everything is working.

      Always thought that the Auto Intern cable was an official Ross-Tech cable as they are listed on their website. Luckily this was a simple fix.

      Thanks for the help

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      08-15-2012 03:10 PM #10
      In case you didn't notice, Release 11.11.4 is out - please test and provide feedback.

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