Passat 3C RCD-310 -> RNS-315 retrofit. Coding challenges

[3xVW]

Hello there,

First thanks to the forum people - I've found many good tips here. Thanks also to Ross Tech for fast and friendly service sending me the cable all the way up here!

The car: Passat 2009 2.0 TDI Highline, R-Line, DSG. It has the white MFD but the older MFSW (with 4 round buttons on both sides), OPS, MDI, no (separate) Bluetooth module...

So I installed the RNS-315 (3c0035279, H05, 0010) which was easy. Ticked Navi in 07 CAN Gateway, coded relevant details in 37 Navigator. Installed microphone and GPS antenna.

All the media parts work ok, navigation works, Bluetooth as hands free and music streaming works. Radio display is shown on the MFD as well as navigation info.

Challenges:
The left side buttons on the steering wheel do no work. Arrows on the right side can be used to change radio channel or audio track.
Phone information does not show on MFD.
Climatronic info does not show on RNS-315 display.

Specific coding problems:
37 Navigation, Byte 10, Bit 7 "SDS disable/blocked" can not be selected. -> Error 31, Out of range.
Park/Steering Assist, Byte 1, Bit 7, "Mute function active" can not be un selected. -> Error 31, Out of range.


I wonder if I must have a separate BT-module to solve some of the problems.
On the other hand it seerms that not all the details can be coded in RNS-315 which can be coded in RNS-51x.

Best regards,

Tuomas


Scans:
Wednesday,08,August,2012,10:23:40:34786
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 (x64)
Data version: 20120401



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Address 37: Navigation
Control Module Part Number: 3C0 035 279
Component and/or Version: RNS315 H05 0010
Software Coding: 000004110400000000010000
Work Shop Code: WSC 00241
VCID: E0C51D30FB58029

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
Serial number: VWZAZ2L8366894
Identification: YD5-001
Date: 04.01.11
Manufacturer number: 0001
Test stand number: 0291
Flash Status
Software
BAP: 00.2F.01
CAN: 01.02.00
Theft prot.: 01.02.14
ISO15765: 00.00.01
Misc.
Hardware number: 3C0 035 279
Workshop System Name: J794
ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315VWEUV1UDS
ASAM Dataset Revision: A01005
VCDS Info:
Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
ROD: EV_RNS315VWEUV1UDS_VW46.rod




VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 (x64)
Data version: 20120401

Wednesday,08,August,2012,15:56:32:34786

Chassis Type: 3C0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 53 55
56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ9E121578

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (CBA) Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 022 QD HW: 03L 907 309
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 6209
Revision: 13H01--- Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0000078
Shop #: WSC 14200 205 82391
VCID: 77F7D66C06D6651

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
Part No SW: 02E 300 052 HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
Component: GSG DSG AG6 440 1978
Revision: 04844002 Serial number: 00000811130225
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 44551 111 44551
VCID: D1A3C8F448F29B1

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 T HW: 3C0 614 109 T
Component: J104 C4 440 V2 0013
Revision: --025--- Serial number: 00000795102130
Coding: 0000277
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2F672E0CBE066D1

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3C0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 044 DK HW: 3C0 907 044 DK
Component: ClimatronicPQ46 133 0909
Revision: 00133024 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6DDBF404748ADF1

1 Fault Found:
00402 - Auxiliary Air Heater Element (Z35)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 76862 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2099.14.29
Time: 15:54:14


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000009407828
Coding: EE0A9E0700041A00470A00000F000000800B59435C00012000 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 05124 123 12345
VCID: 336F227C522E491

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 419 A Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 201108 004 0206
Coding: 00046997
Shop #: WSC 05124

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 130309 054 0402
Coding: 00208936
Shop #: WSC 05124

2 Faults Found:
00483 - Control Module for Auxiliary Air Heater
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 76856 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 12.00 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

02390 - Control / Regulation for Ambience Lighting (E400)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 76856 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 12.05 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels: 1T0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 919 475 L HW: 1T0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE PLA H07 0021
Revision: -------- Serial number: 06530903900295
Coding: 100106
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 448D71A0C780FE9

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 J HW: 5N0 959 655 J
Component: J234__005 VW10 HI 1916
Revision: 20013000 Serial number: 003E2P4SLB4Q
Coding: 0012341
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 448D71A00780FE9

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 AC HW: 3C0 953 549 AC
Component: J0527 0020
Revision: 00026000 Serial number: 3C9953507CN
Coding: 0001112
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 6DDBF404748ADF1

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 920 871 T HW: 3C0 920 871 T
Component: KOMBI H05 0110
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 170F00
Shop #: WSC 05314 115 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW46.rod
VCID: 356B1C64945A571

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 5K0 963 271 C
Component: Standheizer 050 2606
Revision: 00050000 Serial number: 09021535000000
Coding: 0001012
Shop #: WSC 10600 205 84131
VCID: 2F672E0CBE066D1

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 3C0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 L HW: 3C0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H13 0152
Revision: H13 Serial number: 3300P093100751
Coding: FDA17F06400A12002002
Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
VCID: 2A513F1885E4089

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
Component: IMMO 043 0383
Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 7AF1CF5835C4789

Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
Component: ELV 027 0380
3C0905861G ELV 027 0380

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B HW: 5N0 035 342 B
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0084
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7667370066
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 2649CB2851FC2C9

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794) Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 035 279 HW: 3C0 035 279
Component: RNS315 H05 0010
Serial number: VWZAZ2L8366894
Coding: 000604110400000000010000
Shop #: WSC 00241 211 19492
ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315VWEUV1UDS A01005
VCID: E0C51D30FB58029

1 Fault Found:
1048628 - Right Rear Audio Signal Output
B1107 F0 [009] - Short Circuit Between Poles
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 76862 km
Date: 2035.14.29
Time: 15:56:47


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AC HW: 1K0 959 793 N
Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1517
Revision: 72009005 Serial number: 00000504898202
Coding: 0000245
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 6FE7EE0C7E862D1

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J HW: 5N1 909 148 F
Component: J500__APA-BS KL.083 0502
Revision: 1AH02254 Serial number: 00090270049402
Coding: 0000258
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 397310547042B31

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
Component: KSG PQ46 ELV 043 0612
Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0091020051030E763400941570084F0B607801
Shop #: WSC 05311 123 12345
VCID: 7AF1CF5835C4789

Component: Sounder n.mounted

Component: NGS n.mounted

Component: IRUE n.mounted

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AC HW: 1K0 959 792 N
Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1517
Revision: 72009005 Serial number: 00000663898128
Coding: 0000244
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 70E5ED7063B8329

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 907 801 A HW: 3C8 907 801 B
Component: J540 EPB3 VW-10498 0003
Revision: 010 Serial number: 00000000019193
Coding: 0000057
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2855C5109BE83A9

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C HW: 5M0 907 357 C
Component: AFS-Steuergeraet 0136
Revision: 00H04000 Serial number:
Coding: 2311169
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 346D216057204E9

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l 0004
Coding: 00000035

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r 0004
Coding: 00000035

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AB HW: 1K0 959 795 L
Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 0307
Revision: 41004101 Serial number: 00000000835867
Coding: 0000208
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 70E5ED7063B8329

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AB HW: 1K0 959 794 L
Component: J389 TUER-SG HR 0307
Revision: 41004101 Serial number: 00000000841151
Coding: 0000208
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 71E3E87468B23B1

No fault code found.

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[3xVW]

Oh, the faults generated by the dealer installed aux-heater are next on my to-do list...

[3xVW]

Tried the "developer mode" on RNS-315 -> no help.

I guess I just need to wait and hope for a new version of VCDS with added functionalities for RNS-315

I have no idea what kind of car donated the device - got it fron Ebay... Might as well ask the seller.

Tuomas

[Spacewalker]

Few options. Your car have White MFD but all controlers on the board are old. So that is why you have 4 buttons MFSW. I will focuns on the 8 buttons MFSW + control module belowe, and this should fix your problem.
RNS 510 is much much better. It can be reprograme, edit SW, etc. other younger borthers are not.

[3xVW]

Thanks Spaceman,

Yep, I know the 510 would have been easier but I decided to save few (quite many actually) Euros with the little brother. When I was searching for a navi the
prices for 315 were ~50% lower. And in addition I should have bought a separate BT-module.

I had a 315 in my previous car (factory installed) and I was happy with it.
The current setup is "good-enough" but I still want to try to make it better - with the help from vwirtual friends @ VWvortex

BTW would updating the steering wheel controller require swapping a newer steering wheel?


Tuomas

[3xVW]

I am not able to find a solution using VCDS...

I hope someone with RNS-31X and the 8-button MFSW could share their 37 Navigation coding.
Coding in my system: 000604110400000000010000

I think (/hope) these two settings - which can not be changed - are causing the problem:
37 Navigation, Byte 10, Bit 7 "SDS disable/blocked" can not be selected. -> Error 31, Out of range.
Park/Steering Assist, Byte 1, Bit 7, "Mute function active" can not be un selected. -> Error 31, Out of range.

Tuomas

[Theresias]

The RNS315 uses BAP to communicate with the instrument cluster and is awaiting the same type of communication from your climatronic unit. In opposite to the RNS510 the RNS310/RNS315 does not support being switched between DDP and BAP deeming it incompatible to cars prior to MY 2010 (some exceptions apply). In addition the climatronic module you have does not even support an external display, so even with a DDP device that generally supports this you will not see anything. As for the steering wheel buttons, similar problem.

My suggestion, get a RNS510 instead and find somebody who takes the RNS315 off your hands.

[3xVW]

Thanks for your reply Theresias,

I agree with you wtr the climatronic and that is not really a big deal. But I am not giving up with the steering wheel buttons yet because the up/down arrows on the right side of the wheel can be used to contol the RNS315 for changing track, radio station etc.

I think I've seen MY 2009 Passats with RNS310. Just need to get the coding from one.

-Tuomas

[Theresias]

You may indeed have seen those, but not with a control module as you have installed it... This is not a coding problem... People have been there, people have made the same wrong assumptions as you have, people have finally realized they were wrong. Feel free to search the forums, you are not the first one and not the last one trying this...

[3xVW]

The fact that the rns315 does get some inputs from the steering wheel but not all bothers me.