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    Thread: st.:Reet project - just another 550+ hp R32

    1. Member zlos's Avatar
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      08-09-2012 08:35 AM #1
      So I've sold my mk6 R20 and stepped back into a juicy .:R32 world

      Here are some details:

      MY2009 Mk5 VW Golf R32 DSG
      Motorsport Seats
      RNS 510
      Blue Shadow



      Engine:

      3,2 VR6 24V BUB

      - upgraded camshaft, 1.5mm higher and 4 degrees sharper
      - updraged rod bolts


      Air intake

      - Intercooler home made by Compsport
      - Alu pipes
      - DV Stock 710N

      Exhaust:

      - Turbo GT3582R
      - Wastegate Tial
      - complete exhaust, full 3,25" MG Mtorsport

      Fuel system:

      - 6x Bosch 750cc EV14
      - Bosch 044 fuel pump

      Electronics:

      1. Motronic ME7.1.1 ST10 programmed by CompSport.pl
      - left foot braking
      - no rear lambdas
      - no SAI
      - no EVAP
      - bigger MAFu calibration

      2. Factory DSG Temic CompSport
      - Launch Control at 4100rpm
      - shortened gear shifts
      - manual - no kickdown
      - manual - possible driving at max rpms
      - gear change depending on the gearbox mode (D/S/M) between 6500-7000rpm

      3. Numbers
      - Defi (Boost,EGT)
      - Polartec FIS+ Advanced

      4. Turbo intelligence: HKS EVC ver. 6

      Drivetrain:

      - 6g DSG
      - stronger clutches 7-pieces (650Nm)
      - Haldex Performance with radio controller (stock,Sport,Race)

      Suspension:
      - lowered 20mm's
      - Bilstein B16 PSS10 Kit
      - front brakes Alcon 4Pot + 355mm discs

      Others:
      - Rear camera from Golf Mk6
      - Phone BT connection
      - Ultraleggera 18x8, Contisport 5 225/40/R18


      TO BE DONE:
      - stronger rear brakes (I've heard Forge's gonna release rear brakes set for mk5 R32)

      Results with old turbo setup:


      Results with new setup:


      Woerthersee 2012:












      A bit of fire:


      A bit of noise





      Project's running thanks to Pat & Simon from CompSport.pl (thumbs up!). And my dearest wife, who is not following my bank account status

      Hope to see you on the Woethersee 2013 and grab a beer
      Last edited by zlos; 05-16-2014 at 03:51 PM. Reason: update
      .:: My R32 Turbo Thread ::.
      .:: 630 hp / 700 Nm .::. 11.093 sec @ 129 mph ::.

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      08-09-2012 09:25 AM #3
      nice

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      08-09-2012 10:50 AM #6
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      08-09-2012 11:13 AM #7
      "stepped bank" indeed!

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    8. 08-09-2012 12:18 PM #8
      😭 nice R32


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      08-09-2012 12:41 PM #9
      Welcome! Not much left to do on that beast.
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      That guy shouldn't own an R32. I bet he goes out dancing at least twice a week.

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      08-09-2012 02:26 PM #10
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      😭 nice R32


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      08-09-2012 05:20 PM #11
      Awesome. R32T's taking over the world!!

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      that color.

      no engine pics?
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      hopefully someday mine will be that fast

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      08-09-2012 09:45 PM #16
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    17. 08-09-2012 10:50 PM #17
      Drivetrain:

      - 6g DSG
      - stronger clutches 7-pieces (650Nm)

      Where did u get these better Clutches from??????

      I thought no body made better and bigger clutches for the R32????

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      08-10-2012 02:51 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by KurtCav View Post
      no engine pics?
      I am still working on engine bay look. Last months I was focused more on mechanics & parameters that a look. Give me some weeks to clean it up

      Quote Originally Posted by abeR View Post
      "stepped bank" indeed!

      Oooops

      Quote Originally Posted by Stylist07 View Post
      Drivetrain:

      - 6g DSG
      - stronger clutches 7-pieces (650Nm)

      Where did u get these better Clutches from??????

      I thought no body made better and bigger clutches for the R32????
      The 650Nm clutches are on the market for some time already. In Poland www.compsport.pl distributes them. as far as I know you can get them from a canadian company: http://www.hpamotorsport.com/contact.htm as well.
      .:: My R32 Turbo Thread ::.
      .:: 630 hp / 700 Nm .::. 11.093 sec @ 129 mph ::.

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      08-10-2012 03:12 AM #19
      180mph and some change, pretty impressive...did not take all day either.

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      08-10-2012 04:15 AM #20
      How it sounds from the outside - old exhaust set up (now is louder)


      New exhaust set up (car's dirty, forgive me pls):
      .:: My R32 Turbo Thread ::.
      .:: 630 hp / 700 Nm .::. 11.093 sec @ 129 mph ::.

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      08-10-2012 05:07 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by zlos View Post
      The 650Nm clutches are on the market for some time already. In Poland www.compsport.pl distributes them. as far as I know you can get them from a canadian company: http://www.hpamotorsport.com/contact.htm as well.
      IMO, they're not worth the money. I tried other clutches but ended up putting 745 Nm through stock clutches using United Motorsport DSG software that increases clutch pressure. No slip at all and it handles it all day long. I've pulled clutches after a few thousand miles to check wear and there was none. If you ever have to replace clutches, I highly recommend going stock and using UM software.

    22. 08-10-2012 07:24 AM #22
      +1 on UM Code.
      17PSI on OEM clutch pack and holding fine, no slip. That is also on clutch that is 100,000km OLD

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      08-10-2012 08:53 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by zevion View Post
      IMO, they're not worth the money. I tried other clutches but ended up putting 745 Nm through stock clutches using United Motorsport DSG software that increases clutch pressure. No slip at all and it handles it all day long. I've pulled clutches after a few thousand miles to check wear and there was none. If you ever have to replace clutches, I highly recommend going stock and using UM software.
      Quote Originally Posted by simple_man View Post
      +1 on UM Code.
      17PSI on OEM clutch pack and holding fine, no slip. That is also on clutch that is 100,000km OLD
      What about oil pump? Pumping 17psi all day long might be dengerous for a pump, right?

      EDIT: UM has no representative outside North America
      Last edited by zlos; 08-10-2012 at 08:58 AM.
      .:: My R32 Turbo Thread ::.
      .:: 630 hp / 700 Nm .::. 11.093 sec @ 129 mph ::.

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      08-10-2012 09:01 AM #24
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      08-10-2012 10:52 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by zlos View Post
      What about oil pump? Pumping 17psi all day long might be dengerous for a pump, right?

      EDIT: UM has no representative outside North America
      I'm running 27lbs boost. No oil pump issues yet (and it's the primary coolant for the turbo. It's a 6766 precision turbo with ceramic center section). Obviously I don't actually run 27lbs more than in short bursts of a seconds or minutes at a time (you run out of road quickly). Done a couple of 2500 mile road trips without mechanical issues, including some hard driving on 'The Dragon'. Runs great and is reliable.

      As for clutch pressure, it's a little over 19 bar on mine (stock is 13.5 bar). No slip at 27lbs. Over 650WHP. As I mentioned, stock clutches.

      Anyways, your car looks awesome dude. Love the sound, the color, the seats, the flames, the whole thing.

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      08-10-2012 11:09 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by zevion View Post
      I'm running 27lbs boost. No oil pump issues yet (and it's the primary coolant for the turbo. It's a 6766 precision turbo with ceramic center section). Obviously I don't actually run 27lbs more than in short bursts of a seconds or minutes at a time (you run out of road quickly). Done a couple of 2500 mile road trips without mechanical issues, including some hard driving on 'The Dragon'. Runs great and is reliable.

      As for clutch pressure, it's a little over 19 bar on mine (stock is 13.5 bar). No slip at 27lbs. Over 650WHP. As I mentioned, stock clutches.

      Anyways, your car looks awesome dude. Love the sound, the color, the seats, the flames, the whole thing.
      Sounds really interesting, I will contact the UK dealer and try to get it for me.


      650WHP/745Nm is way more impressive than mine 450WHP/620Nm. Have you measured with haldex on or off?
      What level of torque you have at the LC rpms? Launch controll goes smoothly, no slips on the clutches?
      .:: My R32 Turbo Thread ::.
      .:: 630 hp / 700 Nm .::. 11.093 sec @ 129 mph ::.

    27. 08-10-2012 01:41 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by zlos View Post
      Sounds really interesting, I will contact the UK dealer and try to get it for me.


      650WHP/745Nm is way more impressive than mine 450WHP/620Nm. Have you measured with haldex on or off?
      What level of torque you have at the LC rpms? Launch controll goes smoothly, no slips on the clutches?
      Beautiful car and goes like mental

      Good luck contacting UK dealer - my e-mail isn't answered for 10 months +
      At the show they even didn't wanted to talk to me and kept walking away.

      They don't need business - arrogant people.

      On other hand US based United motorsports has very good reputation contact them.

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      08-10-2012 06:34 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by zlos View Post
      650WHP/745Nm is way more impressive than mine 450WHP/620Nm. Have you measured with haldex on or off?
      What level of torque you have at the LC rpms? Launch controll goes smoothly, no slips on the clutches?
      Dude, yours is very impressive. In that vid to 300kph it's QUICK!

      I did dyno pulls on both front wheel (with haldex fuse pulled) and all-wheel dynos.

      Here is a 654WHP front wheel pull:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0vfZ...layer_embedded

      I don't use launch control right now because I fear breaking something in the drive train. I'm not drag racing, it's a street car, so I tend to roll of the line with everything loaded up, then plant it.

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      08-10-2012 07:35 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by zevion View Post
      Dude, yours is very impressive. In that vid to 300kph it's QUICK!

      I did dyno pulls on both front wheel (with haldex fuse pulled) and all-wheel dynos.

      Here is a 654WHP front wheel pull:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0vfZ...layer_embedded

      I don't use launch control right now because I fear breaking something in the drive train. I'm not drag racing, it's a street car, so I tend to roll of the line with everything loaded up, then plant it.
      I'd love to have your numbers, but mine toy is too "rocky" to be dynoed with FWD only. Tried with different stickers to glue the gums to the rolls, but always failed.

      Alhtough EU's dynos are two rolls pew wheel mine turbo is too agressive for two rolls only. Checked on semislick and contisport 5 - both rubbers are too slicky to be dynoed on FWD only.

      So my dyno's are 4WD only.

      Mine max turbo load is 1.3psi. What's yours?
      .:: My R32 Turbo Thread ::.
      .:: 630 hp / 700 Nm .::. 11.093 sec @ 129 mph ::.

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      08-11-2012 01:01 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by zlos View Post
      I'd love to have your numbers, but mine toy is too "rocky" to be dynoed with FWD only. Tried with different stickers to glue the gums to the rolls, but always failed.

      Alhtough EU's dynos are two rolls pew wheel mine turbo is too agressive for two rolls only. Checked on semislick and contisport 5 - both rubbers are too slicky to be dynoed on FWD only.

      So my dyno's are 4WD only.

      Mine max turbo load is 1.3psi. What's yours?
      Actually we had a bad time trying to get the car not to slip the rollers. We got it in the end though. You can see it almost wanting to torque off as well. We really had to tighten the straps down.

      In this dyno run we hit 654, but ran out of fuel. I'd go for more power, but it's enough for me. I'm just enjoying the driving now and less of the building process. Getting over 550 requires internals (rods etc). Getting over 650 requires big injectors and a different fuel system with a surge tank and huge pump. Also a bigger turbo. I did this and it was a big investment for another 100hp. Probably not worth it. Unless you're crazy.

      Not quite sure what you mean by max turbo load.
      Last edited by zevion; 08-11-2012 at 01:07 AM.

    31. 08-11-2012 03:47 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by zevion View Post
      Dude, yours is very impressive. In that vid to 300kph it's QUICK!


      I don't use launch control right now because I fear breaking something in the drive train. I'm not drag racing, it's a street car, so I tend to roll of the line with everything loaded up, then plant it.
      I know the feeling
      But turbo do not really produce much boost in first gear during LC, regardless RPM at Launch. So, it's pretty much OEM level stress.

      On the other hand if you run Jeff's BOOST LC mode, this may brake few drive-shafts
      Don't you love Porsche style LC with Boost @ about 5-6PSI ? I am still to get mine.

    32. 08-11-2012 03:50 AM #32
      ZLOS, 300km/h run looks amassing. I love how 0-100 comes so incredably fast
      What gearing do you run in DSG? You mentioned custom gearset, who's set is it? Any noise over OEM?

      What is your RPM in 6th gear at 100km/h?
      I need higher 6th gear for high speed cruising

      EDIT:

      Your injectors: - 6x Bosch 550cc EV14

      Mine are the same and run 120% IDC @ 17 PSI. Watch your 1.3Bar, your IDS will be sky high
      Last edited by simple_man; 08-11-2012 at 03:54 AM.

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      08-12-2012 03:22 AM #33
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      08-12-2012 03:29 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by zevion View Post
      Actually we had a bad time trying to get the car not to slip the rollers. We got it in the end though. You can see it almost wanting to torque off as well. We really had to tighten the straps down.

      In this dyno run we hit 654, but ran out of fuel. I'd go for more power, but it's enough for me. I'm just enjoying the driving now and less of the building process. Getting over 550 requires internals (rods etc). Getting over 650 requires big injectors and a different fuel system with a surge tank and huge pump. Also a bigger turbo. I did this and it was a big investment for another 100hp. Probably not worth it. Unless you're crazy.

      Not quite sure what you mean by max turbo load.
      Yeah, mine dynoing was also a nightmare. We ended up on 4x4 and only thank to haldex performance we were able to measure the car. With factory haldex settings front axle was still slipping

      We have one or two ideas how to get closer to 600ps without changing turbo. We'll see

      Turbo boost I meant, sorry for my English.

      Quote Originally Posted by simple_man View Post
      I know the feeling
      But turbo do not really produce much boost in first gear during LC, regardless RPM at Launch. So, it's pretty much OEM level stress.

      Don't you love Porsche style LC with Boost @ about 5-6PSI ? I am still to get mine.
      Mine LC produces lots of stress for clutches, unfortunately.
      Porsche LC is crazy

      Quote Originally Posted by simple_man View Post
      ZLOS, 300km/h run looks amassing. I love how 0-100 comes so incredably fast
      What gearing do you run in DSG? You mentioned custom gearset, who's set is it? Any noise over OEM?

      What is your RPM in 6th gear at 100km/h?
      I need higher 6th gear for high speed cruising

      EDIT:

      Your injectors: - 6x Bosch 550cc EV14

      Mine are the same and run 120% IDC @ 17 PSI. Watch your 1.3Bar, your IDS will be sky high
      I have OEM gearings, simply software is corrected so gear changes faster. Apart of clutches & software DSG remains pretty OEM.

      Some months ago I had opportunity to check my engine @ approc 500hp with a Passat R36 gearbox prepared by HGP. Well, this a is looooong gearbox 6th gear, 5.000 rpms and 270 km/h. But the car felt like it lost over a 100hp.

      Mine injectors are pretty busy, that's true I don't know the IDC out of my head.
      .:: My R32 Turbo Thread ::.
      .:: 630 hp / 700 Nm .::. 11.093 sec @ 129 mph ::.

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      08-12-2012 03:46 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by zlos View Post
      We have one or two ideas how to get closer to 600ps without changing turbo. We'll see
      It's the rods that will break at 600hp on the VR6. You must do the rods at these power levels. You are already pushing the limit now. Aside from that, the VR6 is very strong.

      Quote Originally Posted by zlos View Post
      Mine injectors are pretty busy, that's true I don't know the IDC out of my head.
      I run 910cc injectors and they are at nearly 100% duty at 654WHP. Nice and rich at full boost (27 psi).

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