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    08-09-2012 01:42 PM #1
    Hey guys,
    Looking to get some help.
    I was given a set of 19" x 8.5" et. 35 BBS repz with 235/35/19 tires. I've had them installed with a set of hubcentric rings. The wheels poke about 1/3" in the front and rear and there's about 1.5" clearance on the rear between the tire and fender. and about 2" clearance in the front. I've never rubbed in the front, but I hit a huge dip in the road and rubbed in the rear.

    Any idea how to avoid this? The rear fenders in a GLI are already rolled, is it a huge issue?

    Would love any suggestions

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    08-09-2012 02:00 PM #2
    Quote Originally Posted by BKR1986 View Post
    Hey guys,
    Looking to get some help.
    I was given a set of 19" x 8.5" et. 35 BBS repz with 235/35/19 tires. I've had them installed with a set of hubcentric rings. The wheels poke about 1/3" in the front and rear and there's about 1.5" clearance on the rear between the tire and fender. and about 2" clearance in the front. I've never rubbed in the front, but I hit a huge dip in the road and rubbed in the rear.

    Any idea how to avoid this? The rear fenders in a GLI are already rolled, is it a huge issue?

    Would love any suggestions
    Problem is your offset.

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    08-09-2012 02:00 PM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by BKR1986 View Post
    Hey guys,
    Looking to get some help.
    I was given a set of 19" x 8.5" et. 35 BBS repz with 235/35/19 tires. I've had them installed with a set of hubcentric rings. The wheels poke about 1/3" in the front and rear and there's about 1.5" clearance on the rear between the tire and fender. and about 2" clearance in the front. I've never rubbed in the front, but I hit a huge dip in the road and rubbed in the rear.

    Any idea how to avoid this? The rear fenders in a GLI are already rolled, is it a huge issue?

    Would love any suggestions
    I also have 19's. I also will rub a tad when I go over a big dip like that. It's no big deal for me because it's just the lining. If you're rubbing the fender then that's no good.
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    08-09-2012 02:01 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Verebs1 View Post
    Problem is your offset.
    Yes this. I'm ET 42 purrrrrfect IMO
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    08-09-2012 02:04 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by King Schwab View Post
    I also have 19's. I also will rub a tad when I go over a big dip like that. It's no big deal for me because it's just the lining. If you're rubbing the fender then that's no good.
    ^ Yeah that

    or you can run more narrower tires, such as 225s.
    Quote Originally Posted by vincenzoo View Post
    Today i brought the car to the body shop and plasti diped the rear emblem on my jetta.

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    08-09-2012 02:12 PM #6
    Hmm...now, here's a crazy idea. I have access to a full machine shop. Would machining the inside offset 1/8 of an inch or so until it clears the fender be an option?

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    08-09-2012 03:09 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by BKR1986 View Post
    Hmm...now, here's a crazy idea. I have access to a full machine shop. Would machining the inside offset 1/8 of an inch or so until it clears the fender be an option?
    I dont think that would be an issue however I would be cautious as it needs to be dead nuts or you will have wobble.

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    08-09-2012 03:14 PM #8
    Back in the JDM scene, there was a member that was able to shave off 3 (ET42 to ET45) max from his hub

    it might be different for different wheels though.

    To be honest I would stay away from modifying the wheel itself and would just concentrate on the tires.

    reason I'm saying this some BBS Reps that I have read around have poor quality. Like for example there was a G35 that was rocking BBS LM Reps and the face of his BBS LMs was completely destroyed while he was driving, it was great that he didnt get hurt nor anyone that was near him.
    Quote Originally Posted by vincenzoo View Post
    Today i brought the car to the body shop and plasti diped the rear emblem on my jetta.

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    08-09-2012 03:52 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by 2009RoutanSE View Post
    Back in the JDM scene, there was a member that was able to shave off 3 (ET42 to ET45) max from his hub

    it might be different for different wheels though.

    To be honest I would stay away from modifying the wheel itself and would just concentrate on the tires.

    reason I'm saying this some BBS Reps that I have read around have poor quality. Like for example there was a G35 that was rocking BBS LM Reps and the face of his BBS LMs was completely destroyed while he was driving, it was great that he didnt get hurt nor anyone that was near him.
    That's a great point, I suppose 7mm would be a little much. Im going to analyze how much "hub" I have on the wheel and determine weather or not it would be feasible. I may also just live with the very minimal rubbing (only did it that one time on a deep dip over a manhole cover)

  10. 08-09-2012 05:34 PM #10
    Just add some camber

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    08-09-2012 05:48 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Mk6-GLI View Post
    Just add some camber
    How does one do that? I think that would solve my issue! Does adding camber have any down sides? Uneven wear etc?

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    08-09-2012 06:21 PM #12
    basically your suspension will have a slight camber when you lower it.

    of course you'll have uneven tires.

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    also when shaving, I remember reading off somewhere, according to a wheel specialist, he mentioned when shaving, its not about how far your are shaving, its HOW you do it. so chances are, if you dont do it right and you shave 3mm, then you got a problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by vincenzoo View Post
    Today i brought the car to the body shop and plasti diped the rear emblem on my jetta.

  13. 08-09-2012 06:42 PM #13
    Any Pictures? I think going with a 225 might be the answerr.

  14. 08-09-2012 09:59 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraAvant View Post
    Any Pictures? I think going with a 225 might be the answerr.

    I'm running 19x8.5 on the front of mine. I've got my FK's maxed all the way down, and front fenders rolled and pulled, it will still rub once in awhile while turning.

    The rears are 19x9.5, I'm running a bit of stretch, and maxed out camber to clear, no rubbing.

    225 fronts, 235 rears.

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    08-09-2012 10:06 PM #15
    You can check out the "project diesel punk" thread from black forest industries and check out how they made their wheels fit. Could be feasible since you have access to a shop to work in. unless what they did only works on a twist beam setup...
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    08-09-2012 11:01 PM #16
    I sincerely appreciate all the feedback everyone is providing. I'll be checking out the dieselpunk project for sure. I really was hoping I didn't have to switch tires, I really don't like the look of a stretched tire. The funny thing is, I really like the look of the poked wheels, especially in the rear, I just wish they didn't rub!

    Here are some photos for reference:

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    Rear:


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    Front:


    Front Wheel Gap:


    Rear Wheel Gap:

  17. 08-10-2012 11:05 AM #17
    ^^From the pics you posted all you need is a little camber, go to a good alignment shop and get them to add in a little camber to your alignment. That should solve your problem, dont worry about the uneven tire wear, that is only something to worry about when you are running something way off like -3 or above. I don't think you will need more than 2 degrees to clear like you want to.

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    08-10-2012 12:07 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Mk6-GLI View Post
    ^^From the pics you posted all you need is a little camber, go to a good alignment shop and get them to add in a little camber to your alignment. That should solve your problem, dont worry about the uneven tire wear, that is only something to worry about when you are running something way off like -3 or above. I don't think you will need more than 2 degrees to clear like you want to.
    Thanks so much mate,
    That's a great suggestion, I'll get that done this weekend. Two quick questions....
    Does it require any parts on my end or is this something that any good alignment shop can do?
    Would you recommend camber in all 4 wheels or just rears?

  19. 08-10-2012 12:13 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by BKR1986 View Post
    Thanks so much mate,
    That's a great suggestion, I'll get that done this weekend. Two quick questions....
    Does it require any parts on my end or is this something that any good alignment shop can do?
    Would you recommend camber in all 4 wheels or just rears?
    It probably wouldnt hurt to add a little in front too, yours is a GLI right? If it is it is adjustable so you shouldnt need anything special parts wise. The main thing is making sure you rotate your tires regularly after doing it. Good luck hope this fixes it for your

  20. 08-10-2012 09:08 PM #20
    How much difference would a 215 make compared to the 235?

  21. 08-10-2012 09:51 PM #21
    2 cm, lol. It doesnt sound like much but when you are playing with mm to clear a fender its a considerable difference
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    08-10-2012 10:11 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraAvant View Post
    How much difference would a 215 make compared to the 235?
    Alot. Go with the 225.

  23. 08-11-2012 12:38 AM #23
    They don't need any extra parts to adjust the camber. There is an adjustable bolt that is oval/slotted that you loosen and turn on the rear arm. I adjusted mine in the garage.

    Can see alittle bit in this pic of the camber in the rear.





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    PS, BBS caps on BBS reps? SMH tsk tsk. LOL jk
    Last edited by 4x108; 08-11-2012 at 12:40 AM.

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    08-11-2012 09:52 AM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by 4x108 View Post
    They don't need any extra parts to adjust the camber. There is an adjustable bolt that is oval/slotted that you loosen and turn on the rear arm. I adjusted mine in the garage.

    Can see alittle bit in this pic of the camber in the rear.





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    PS, BBS caps on BBS reps? SMH tsk tsk. LOL jk
    Hahahah, sorry man! They're what came with the wheel. I want to get some VW center caps once I make this work!

    Also, as a side note. I removed my spare tire which gave me another cm of clearance. Will be driving arouse today on some bumpy roads with passengers to see if it helps. If not, camber or new wheels!

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    08-11-2012 10:05 AM #25
    Camber.

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