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    08-10-2012 09:16 AM #1


    http://www.wyff4.com/news/local-news...s/-/index.html

    There's a video on the link, shows the chase footage. I can't figure out how to embed it, if one of you knows how, feel free to do so.

    Basically, this woman gets blue-lighted for a traffic violation, then leads police on a high speed chase. She eventually crashes, and a 7 year old girl is ejected from the vehicle, and dies a day later at the hospital. The woman says she's the girls Aunt. Turns out, she's actually the girls mother. She told the child to unbuckle, and dump her weed out of the window...

    Some people are blaming the cops for this, who had no idea a child was in the vehicle.
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    08-10-2012 09:21 AM #2
    Wowzers... throw the book at her.
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    08-10-2012 09:35 AM #3
    The woman says she's the girls Aunt. Turns out, she's actually the girls mother. She told the child to unbuckle, and dump her weed out of the window...
    Good lord, the stupidity / carelessness.

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    08-10-2012 09:36 AM #4
    that lil girl shouldnt have been hiding weed. didnt SuperTroopers teach us anything???
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    08-10-2012 09:37 AM #5
    hopefully her uterus was ruptured beyond repair in the crash
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    08-10-2012 09:42 AM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by unleashedd View Post
    that lil girl shouldnt have been hiding weed. didnt SuperTroopers teach us anything???
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    08-10-2012 09:45 AM #7
    Littering and...

    Littering and...

    Littering and...

    ...vehicular manslaughter
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    08-10-2012 09:53 AM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by PassSedanGLX View Post
    Littering and...

    Littering and...

    Littering and...

    ...vehicular manslaughter
    technically, the girl's body flew out of the car....so that could add another littering charge, as well
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    08-10-2012 10:07 AM #9
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    08-10-2012 10:14 AM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
    Wowzers... throw the book at her.
    Complete piece of garbage, I really do hope they throw the book at her and she rots in jail somewhere.

    Anyone else notice that she kept signalling while being chased?
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    08-10-2012 10:21 AM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by naiku View Post

    Anyone else notice that she kept signalling while being chased?
    If only more people were like her.

  12. 08-10-2012 10:26 AM #12
    woman is to blame, that said the police and these unnecessary high speed chases are out of control as well. I'm sure they could get a lic plate, run the plate, get the address, and catch up to her later.

    I personally think High Speed chases and pursuits should only be conducted when absolutely necessary. These chases endanger innocent public ALL THE TIME and cowboy cops are way too aggressive with this type of stuff.
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  13. 08-10-2012 10:31 AM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by kwik!gti View Post
    woman is to blame, that said the police and these unnecessary high speed chases are out of control as well. I'm sure they could get a lic plate, run the plate, get the address, and catch up to her later.

    I personally think High Speed chases and pursuits should only be conducted when absolutely necessary. These chases endanger innocent public ALL THE TIME and cowboy cops are way too aggressive with this type of stuff.
    So you were there and know that it was not necessary?

  14. 08-10-2012 10:47 AM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ninja View Post
    So you were there and know that it was not necessary?
    So you were there and know this was necessary?

    From what I read, this was a traffic violation incident. That's why she was getting lit up. She didn't rob a bank at gunpoint or kidnap someone. If that's all there was to it I dont believe high speed chases are justified in those instances.
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    08-10-2012 10:52 AM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by kwik!gti View Post
    So you were there and know this was necessary?

    From what I read, this was a traffic violation incident. That's why she was getting lit up. She didn't rob a bank at gunpoint or kidnap someone. If that's all there was to it I dont believe high speed chases are justified in those instances.
    How did the cops know that she didnt rob a bank or kill someone?
    You dont speed off from the cops during a MINOR traffic violation, unless you did something like that

    Quit blaming the cops for doing their job
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    08-10-2012 10:55 AM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by kwik!gti View Post
    So you were there and know this was necessary?

    From what I read, this was a traffic violation incident. That's why she was getting lit up. She didn't rob a bank at gunpoint or kidnap someone. If that's all there was to it I dont believe high speed chases are justified in those instances.
    Imagine if cops didn't chase anymore.

    Don't want to pay that $100 speeding ticket? Simply speed up and run away! Cops cant chase anyway, so there is no issue.

    Don't you think that your 'solution' would cause even more accidents, with people speeding away any chance they get?

    Like the above poster, stop blaming cops for doing their job.
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  17. 08-10-2012 10:57 AM #17
    Again, she didn't rob a bank, she was running b/c of weed (whole other topic). The police should be held culpable for instances in which a high speed chase ensues that endangers the general public. The police person's job is to serve and protect. Starting a high speed chase in no different than pulling your gun. You need to use caution and factor in the safety of innocent bystanders....not just fire shots into the crowd.
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  18. 08-10-2012 10:59 AM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by 03GTI4Me View Post
    Imagine if cops didn't chase anymore.

    Don't want to pay that $100 speeding ticket? Simply speed up and run away! Cops cant chase anyway, so there is no issue.

    Don't you think that your 'solution' would cause even more accidents, with people speeding away any chance they get?

    Like the above poster, stop blaming cops for doing their job.
    Cops all have video in this day and age. They can get your plate and mail a ticket. Then tack on additional charges for evading the police.
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    08-10-2012 11:00 AM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by RacerrRex View Post
    How did the cops know that she didnt rob a bank or kill someone?
    You dont speed off from the cops during a MINOR traffic violation, unless you did something like that

    Quit blaming the cops for doing their job
    There's doing your job and doing your job wrong. Simply put, the police should have made a judgement call on whether to engage in a high speed chase with only the information they have in hand. IF the news is accurate, then they initiated a high speed chase based on a mere traffic violation. They opted to put people's lives in danger for a traffic violation. The woman is an idiot and doesn't know better, the cop should. All of this stupidity at the expense of an innocent girl's life.

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    08-10-2012 11:01 AM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by kwik!gti View Post
    Again, she didn't rob a bank, she was running b/c of weed (whole other topic). The police should be held culpable for instances in which a high speed chase ensues that endangers the general public. The police person's job is to serve and protect. Starting a high speed chase in no different than pulling your gun. You need to use caution and factor in the safety of innocent bystanders....not just fire shots into the crowd.
    You are operating with the benefit of hindsight. You think the cops knew it was just weed?

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  21. 08-10-2012 11:06 AM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by 03GTI4Me View Post
    You are operating with the benefit of hindsight. You think the cops knew it was just weed?

    Stop typing. You are starting to look like a huge idiot.
    Get more mad.

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    08-10-2012 11:06 AM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by kwik!gti View Post
    Cops all have video in this day and age. They can get your plate and mail a ticket. Then tack on additional charges for evading the police.
    EXACTLY! as soon as a cop lights you up, pull over. if you don't, u're evading the police - so why even waste resources on the chase? cops should just get the person at home (or during some roadblock scenario)
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  23. 08-10-2012 11:09 AM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by unleashedd View Post
    EXACTLY! as soon as a cop lights you up, pull over. if you don't, u're evading the police - so why even waste resources on the chase? cops should just get the person at home (or during some roadblock scenario)
    Exactly. Once the person runs it's now a "issue a warrant" incident. I dont see how engaging a high speed and dangerous and many times reckless pursuit is safer than just getting a warrant and then arresting the person. Obviously if this is a violent crime incident then it's different. Police need to use more restraint and better judgement.
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    08-10-2012 11:13 AM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by unleashedd View Post
    EXACTLY! as soon as a cop lights you up, and you have a safe spot to do so, pull over. if you don't, u're evading the police - so why even waste resources on the chase? cops should just get the person at home (or during some roadblock scenario)
    FTFY. I'll drive for a quarter mile with my blinker on if I know there is a nice safe pull off where I can get completely off the road.
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  25. 08-10-2012 11:17 AM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSAABt View Post
    FTFY. I'll drive for a quarter mile with my blinker on if I know there is a nice safe pull off where I can get completely off the road.
    I do the same. I have been pulled over twice the last 7 years. Both times I immediately put my blinker on to notify the officer I intend to pull over. I find a safe place in the road (in my case a side stret). I pull way over. Immediately roll down the window. Turn on my dome light and put both hands up on the wheel in plain sight. This puts cops at ease and both times I got let off with a warning.

    Anyway, like I said, these high speed chases are endangering innocent civilians and wasting resources. The cops should be held liable (as well as the perp obviosuly) if and when things go wrong and innocent people get hurt or killed. That's my stance.
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    08-10-2012 11:18 AM #26
    Running away from the cops=more than minor traffic violation.
    She could have been fugitive on the run, she may have stolen the car(not all cars are reported stolen immediate), she may have robbed the bank and locked employees in the vault, thus no robbery reported. Basically taking picture of the tag and trying to catch up with her later may not work as well.
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    08-10-2012 11:18 AM #27
    I wouldn't chase an SUV with a child in it.

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    08-10-2012 11:20 AM #28
    Well at least she won't be cited for "failure to use turn signal".

    Remember folks, when running from police it's ALWAYS a good idea to indicate your next move with the turn signal.

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    08-10-2012 11:28 AM #31
    I wouldn't have the restraint to not get in a car chase every chance I got if I was a cop. I would also use the PIT maneuver like it was going out of style...

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    08-10-2012 11:31 AM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by kwik!gti View Post

    Anyway, like I said, these high speed chases are endangering innocent civilians and wasting resources. The cops should be held liable (as well as the perp obviosuly) if and when things go wrong and innocent people get hurt or killed. That's my stance.
    What ever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions?

    You run, you get chased, your baby dies and all of a sudden its the cops fault because he didn't just let you go in the first place?

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  33. 08-10-2012 11:32 AM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by driveareliablecar View Post
    I wouldn't chase an SUV with a child in it.
    Neither would they, genius. How do you know that there's a child in the SUV if you don't see it? How can you find out if there is a child in the SUV if mom doesn't stop?

    WHO THE HELL DRIVES LIKE THAT, RUNNING FROM THE POLICE OR NOT, WITH THEIR CHILD ON BOARD?

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    08-10-2012 11:36 AM #34
    The report confused me, what are they referring to when they said they lied about their name? Also the woman was the aunt, but the parent's aren't involved?
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    08-10-2012 11:38 AM #35
    Quote Originally Posted by kwik!gti View Post
    I personally think High Speed chases and pursuits should only be conducted when absolutely necessary. These chases endanger innocent public ALL THE TIME and cowboy cops are way too aggressive with this type of stuff.

    You are HIGH!! If a non-chase policy was put in place, ALL criminals would run.. and when they finally catch up to the lisc plate the criminal would simply say "Wasn't me"


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