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      08-18-2012 03:23 PM #176
      @ the NSX looking great but otherwise not being that great. Amazing driving dynamics, great build quality, innovative construction, and great performance for its time. Why are people such badge-tards on this forum?

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      08-18-2012 03:24 PM #177
      Quote Originally Posted by Gran Turismo View Post
      That 2.5RS has been made awesome.

      Should have posted a stock example.

      The 2.5RS were horrible. I worked for Dollar car rental in the mid to late 90's and drive these off the showroom floor when new for rental duties. In a straight line we lined up a new auto accent hatch of the same era and the Accent killed the 2.5RS everytime until triple digit speeds. Then the Imprezza hits it's limiter and the Accent flew by again

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      08-18-2012 03:49 PM #178
      Quote Originally Posted by S0RRY View Post
      please don't let C4 A6 ruin your perception of Acura fans...plenty of us are reasonable.
      that's good to hear. he's right up there with the worst of the Honda fanboys. it's funny because he complains about VAG fans.
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      08-18-2012 04:01 PM #179
      Quote Originally Posted by a2a4raddo View Post
      The ITR is very awesome, anyone who thinks otherwise is pretty ignorant.


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      08-18-2012 04:09 PM #180
      Quote Originally Posted by S0RRY View Post
      please don't let C4 A6 ruin your perception of Acura fans...plenty of us are reasonable.
      No, we're all elitists

      At least my fanboyism is grounded in reality. I don't see magazines talk about how groundbreaking a GTI (aside from the Mk1, the original hot hatch) is. The NSX, on the other hand, was truly revolutionary. I don't see magazines tout the GTI as the best FWD car ever created [insert ITR here]. I don't see people selling their NSXes to buy an R32 because the NSX is just a Honda. I didn't see VW win any SCCA Pro Racing titles back in the 90s when the ITR and the NSX just about dominated. And even now, the RTR TSXes are consistently at the top of their class. In Grand Am Continental Challenge ST class, the Civic Si has taken more #1 spots (3) than the VW GTI (1).

      My fanboyism goes beyond the badge in REAL WORLD success, and I'm not talking car shows or midnight drags down the highway.

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      08-18-2012 04:42 PM #181
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      No, we're all elitists

      At least my fanboyism is grounded in reality. I don't see magazines talk about how groundbreaking a GTI (aside from the Mk1, the original hot hatch) is. The NSX, on the other hand, was truly revolutionary. I don't see magazines tout the GTI as the best FWD car ever created [insert ITR here].
      The GTI was car of the year for a few years in a row, and many magazines featured it as their favourite car.
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      08-18-2012 05:09 PM #182
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      No, we're all elitists

      At least my fanboyism is grounded in reality. I don't see magazines talk about how groundbreaking a GTI (aside from the Mk1, the original hot hatch) is. The NSX, on the other hand, was truly revolutionary. I don't see magazines tout the GTI as the best FWD car ever created [insert ITR here]. I don't see people selling their NSXes to buy an R32 because the NSX is just a Honda. I didn't see VW win any SCCA Pro Racing titles back in the 90s when the ITR and the NSX just about dominated. And even now, the RTR TSXes are consistently at the top of their class. In Grand Am Continental Challenge ST class, the Civic Si has taken more #1 spots (3) than the VW GTI (1).

      My fanboyism goes beyond the badge in REAL WORLD success, and I'm not talking car shows or midnight drags down the highway.
      And this is exactly why I call you a complete joke...

      If it was all about motorsport success, all Audi owners should be hawking their cars constantly because Audi dominates Le Mans and DTM. It's funny because you're stuck in the past. The NSX is decades old and the ITR is done. Look at Honda now. We all love the NSX and S2k, but that's it. ITR doesn't deserve the praise you give it. It is no more than a guised up Integra, like an R32 is to a Golf.

      GTI has been liked for years. It was on C&D's 10 best for awhile.

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      08-18-2012 05:29 PM #183
      Quote Originally Posted by zerotosixty View Post
      And this is exactly why I call you a complete joke...

      If it was all about motorsport success, all Audi owners should be hawking their cars constantly because Audi dominates Le Mans and DTM.
      And Audi owners have that right, though many who buy them don't pay attention to the history of the car and see just the ( ()()() ) and go "Man, this thing is better than the Benz and BMW." It's the auto enthusiasts that look at the pedigree of the car

      ITR doesn't deserve the praise you give it.
      Tell that to Car and Driver, evoUK, and Sport Compact Car (now known as Modified. blech). You seem to hate the ITR because its FWD. You see:

      FWD;
      131torks;
      Naturally aspirated,

      and go, "It sucks." Have you even driven one? No. Do you like Miatas? Of course you do, this is Car Lounge. Oh, and it's RWD. That means you already like it, no? Oh, what, you don't like the Miata because it's a gay car and it's slow? Don't make me laugh. I'll sooner listen to people who actually DRIVE the cars they talk about than those who look at a badge and go, "Pfft, no VW no care." The Miata is a great car because its simple, no nanny electronics, easy to drive, and most of all FUN to drive. Many people have likened the ITR to a FWD Miata: simple, no nanny electronics, easy to drive, and fun to drive.

      It is no more than a guised up Integra, like an R32 is to a Golf.
      I bolded that last statement because nearly every R32 supporter in this thread (and out in the world) seems to think otherwise.

      I've had brief seat time in an R32 (parking lot car control clinic). Gobs of torque is fun, but when pushed hard to its limits, you really notice the weight and 62/38 dist., and that's what holds it back from being from just a good car to a great car.

      I've only ridden in an S2000, and while the engine is anemic under 4000, who cares? A high revving 4 cylinder that pulls hard from 5000 to 9000 is more fun and rewarding to drive than a big 6 cylinder that pulls hard from 2000 to about 5700 and then you start to feel the torque drop off even though it's got another 1000 rpm to go.

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      08-18-2012 06:46 PM #184
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      No, we're all elitists

      At least my fanboyism is grounded in reality. I don't see magazines talk about how groundbreaking a GTI (aside from the Mk1, the original hot hatch) is. The NSX, on the other hand, was truly revolutionary. I don't see magazines tout the GTI as the best FWD car ever created [insert ITR here]. I don't see people selling their NSXes to buy an R32 because the NSX is just a Honda. I didn't see VW win any SCCA Pro Racing titles back in the 90s when the ITR and the NSX just about dominated. And even now, the RTR TSXes are consistently at the top of their class. In Grand Am Continental Challenge ST class, the Civic Si has taken more #1 spots (3) than the VW GTI (1).

      My fanboyism goes beyond the badge in REAL WORLD success, and I'm not talking car shows or midnight drags down the highway.
      Jeez. Chill out, man. I can see you hating VAG-fanboys from the MK3/4 fashion forums, but not all of us are that bad. I love VAG, especially the MK2/MK3 platform. They're okay for what they were meant to do.

      You can make them enjoyable to drive, too, if you do things the right way, but most "Emkay" kids just screw them up by throwing eBay springs on stock struts and throw on anything that resembles a BBS wheel, putting a badgeless grille on and leaving it ABS black, and other stupid things that ultimately ruin the VW badge for the rest of us.

      Yes, Honda is a magnificent auto maker. I've loved every Honda I've owned except for 1, and that one was my fault. Yes, an NSX is a supercar in my book. Not all people who like VW's hate Honda. My Uncle has an NSX (post facelift), and it is amazing. Yes, ITR's are amazing vehicles for what they are. I owned a GS-R, and I loved it. I've driven a 98' Type R around a track, and I really really enjoyed it. Honda manufactured amazing automobiles in the 90's, and continues to do so today. I see more 8th gen Civics than anything else on the road.

      TL;DR: Not all VW-fans are bad. I for one, love Honda.

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      08-18-2012 07:07 PM #185
      Quote Originally Posted by Mosbius Designs View Post
      This needs to be quoted eleventy billion more times to show everyone what a goddamned fool you are.
      No need to call names, just my opinion, People mainly bought or wanted to buy the "nsx" mainly for looks. It's not necessarily a bad thing. They look great but in 2005, 290hp for 90k wasn't cutting it anymore. There were other cars available with 500hp for the same price.

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      08-18-2012 07:25 PM #186
      Quote Originally Posted by Hurt View Post
      TL;DR: Not all VW-fans are bad. I for one, love Honda.
      No, of course not. But it's the ones that are so prevalent in this thread that I despise. The ones that look at the badge and not the achievements of that badge. The ones that look at spec sheets and not entire packages.

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      08-18-2012 07:40 PM #187
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      No, of course not. But it's the ones that are so prevalent in this thread that I despise. The ones that look at the badge and not the achievements of that badge. The ones that look at spec sheets and not entire packages.
      You shouldn't be so surprised. Just look at the wave of FR-S/BRZ haters on this forum. Fun, RWD, relatively affordable sports car and "car enthusiasts" on here would've rather they not build it at all because it doesn't fit their standards of spec sheet/badge.

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      08-19-2012 12:10 PM #188
      Who ever put the FR-S,BRZ up is as smart as a box of smashed d!(ks... In a time where cars are getting fatter and progressively boring, this is a very welcome change. And if your badge blind with any luck it will light a fire under the ass of the rest of the car manufacturers in that class.
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      08-19-2012 01:28 PM #189

      Ill just put this here and walk away. Not that it was hored just not as good as every honda guys says but hey if you only have two performance cars to choose from you need to talk a big talk about what you got.
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      08-19-2012 01:29 PM #190
      Quote Originally Posted by flytech78 View Post

      Ill just put this here and walk away.

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      08-19-2012 02:25 PM #191
      Quote Originally Posted by v.vdubb View Post
      No need to call names, just my opinion, People mainly bought or wanted to buy the "nsx" mainly for looks. It's not necessarily a bad thing. They look great but in 2005, 290hp for 90k wasn't cutting it anymore. There were other cars available with 500hp for the same price.
      Your opinion is bogus, and you're a sad excuse for a car enthusiast.

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      08-19-2012 02:41 PM #192
      Quote Originally Posted by flytech78 View Post

      Ill just put this here and walk away. Not that it was hored just not as good as every honda guys says but hey if you only have two performance cars to choose from you need to talk a big talk about what you got.
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      08-19-2012 04:52 PM #193
      At least he's consistent, even if he IS a dumbass.

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      08-19-2012 04:53 PM #194
      Quote Originally Posted by Mosbius Designs View Post
      Your opinion is bogus, and you're a sad excuse for a car enthusiast.
      Haha, I don't have to prove anything to you phukface, If we all had the same opinion about cars then this site would be really boring.

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    21. 08-19-2012 05:01 PM #196
      Quote Originally Posted by bizybyker View Post
      Who ever put the FR-S,BRZ up is as smart as a box of smashed d!(ks... In a time where cars are getting fatter and progressively boring, this is a very welcome change. And if your badge blind with any luck it will light a fire under the ass of the rest of the car manufacturers in that class.
      Most cars posted on are head scratchers...

      Okay they'd look good (subjective), but nothing good otherwise? Care to explain in details rather than just posting some random pics?

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      08-19-2012 05:27 PM #197
      Quote Originally Posted by joe97 View Post

      Okay they'd look good (subjective), but nothing good otherwise?
      This tread isn't about cars that looks good, but have none good features otherwise though. It's about cars that was good looking but otherwise not that great - meaning the look was it definitely greatest asset, but that it could still be okay in other ways too.

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      Audi A4 (B5). Front suspension is garbage and the this car also got the "great" 2.5tdi.
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      08-19-2012 06:22 PM #199
      Wow, the amount of Honda hate in this thread is staggering, even by TCL standards. The S2000, NSX, and ITR aren't great cars? OOOOOOOOOOK.
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      08-19-2012 06:23 PM #200
      Quote Originally Posted by Galrot View Post
      To be fair, the Type14 was not exactly a better driver (AFAIK, never driven a Type34)

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