The "I own a car from a manufacturer no longer in business" thread

[post-it-note-killer]

Well if Karmann counts… I have two, Although VW is still in business…

[TWHansen]

Plymouth and MG, for a Malaise-era twofer.

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[kobra kai]

Well, at least Holden is still around... Overnight parts from Oz?

Indeed. That and, the new Caprice PPV is a larger, softer G8. So parts will be plentiful.

[kmead]

1985 Bertone X1/9

[eiriksmil]

Daihatsus. They stopped selling them in the States in 1992 and in Europe last year. I will always own them..

[Subwoofers]

Does Datsun count? They sort of just renamed them selves.

[scirocconaut]

Karmann built a lot of cars but I'm not gonna whore out my rocco like the ghia and corrado above

Just check out my Signature link.


I really like the bertone above

[x1000rpms]

2009 Maverick Silver Metallic Pontiac G8 GXP, 6.2L V8, 6 speed manual, sunroof, single interior color.

Specific brand is out of production but.. GM's zeta platform is still in production. LS3 engine and TR6060 transmission are still in production... Can still get service through all GM brands....

[VAGTICJ7]

2009 Stryker Blue G8 GT ... 1 of 1111

[SebTheDJ]

Suppp

[grondie]

Love the G8's

Anyway, I have four of these - two not pictured - one of which is a Scorpio. Diffidently a defunct brand that Ford would just as soon forget.

Merkur (mare-koor)

[tjl]

I'm sorry but a lot of these don't really count to me. Most of these are brands no locnger offered by the parent manfucaturer that is still in business. Saab, British Leyland brands, TVR, etc seem to apply more here. Just me? If so I'll go back to my bridge.

Yes, based on the title of the thread ("a manufacturer no longer in business", as opposed to "a brand no longer being sold"), the Pontiacs, Saturns, Oldmobiles, Mercurys, Merkurs, etc. do not really count, but Saabs and Studebakers do count.

[dunhamjr]

i bought a 2004 Saab 9-5 Arc Wagon about 2 months 4 months or so ago.

[KahviVW]

Are there any Sterling owners out there in TCL land?

[BartVW]

Are there any Sterling owners out there in TCL land?

I saw one in SF when I was there on holiday a couple of years ago. Never knew they tried to sell that tat in the states as well. Although I must say that I actually see quite a lot of rovers around, didn't expect that after they went bankrupt.

[Sepp]

I until recently, owned a Goliath 1600...had to sell it, way too many projects on the burner.
They went out of business many many many years ago, and sold their engine blueprints to Subaru as they were (then) looking to develop the 4 cylinder boxer engine (still in use)

not mine

[andlf]

Well if Karmann counts…

x2

[x1000rpms]

2009 Maverick Silver Metallic Pontiac G8 GXP, 6.2L V8 - 6 speed manual, sunroof, single interior color.

2009 Stryker Blue G8 GT ... 1 of 1111

Nice car VAGTICJ7 - would have gotten the stryker blue if I could have found one.

This is the best break down I have ever seen.. have you ever seen a break down of all options?



Some of the color and option combos must have been made is seriously small numbers... Possibly single digits.

[VAGTICJ7]

Nice car VAGTICJ7 - would have gotten the stryker blue if I could have found one.

This is the best break down I have ever seen.. have you ever seen a break down of all options?



Some of the color and option combos must have been made is seriously small numbers... Possibly single digits.

Love your car, I would have loved to have the GXP, but it was a bit out of my price range, and getting the GT (had to be automatic) was part of the deal I made with the wife to get out of my trade in my Kia Optima.

I have never seen the complete breakdown of all options, just some #'s someone posted on G8board.com. Based on those #'s I wonder how often a Stryker Blue GXP even comes up for sale?

[Iroczgirl]

I don't own one at the moment but I've had a bunch of AMC's.

The last one was a 1968 Rebel.

[x1000rpms]

Based on those #'s I wonder how often a Stryker Blue GXP even comes up for sale?

For me.. the question is.. "How often does a manual stryker blue gxp come up for sale?"

About half of GXPs were manual.. so about 27 or 28 of them exist. There is a 50% chance there isn't even one in this state.

you figure.. most people hang onto a car for 4 years or more.. a "special" car like a stryker blue gxp might get hung onto a bit longer.. (maybe forever) I know there are at least 2 or 3 that will never get sold (there are webpages dedicated to them and the owner isn't even driving them) so.. let's say on average people hold onto them for 7 years and there are 20 manuals that might actually get sold by normal people that switch in and out of cars.... 7 * 12 is 84 months... divided by the 20 cars... one might come up for sale every 4 or 5 months. (in 2015 when people start getting tired of them) But if people hang onto them, like I think they might, these numbers could change drastically.

When I bought my car it was between this one and a red one (within 500 miles.) This silver one happened to be 4 miles down the road from me, so i took it as a sign.

A quick search on AutoTrader shows 13 gxp's for sale at "any distance" no blues. 4 blacks, 4 reds, 3 silvers, 2 whites.


Another way to look at it.. if Stryker Blue was 3% of GXP production and manual stryker was 1.5%.. and there are roughly 14 for sale at any given time. (given the extremely imprecise sample just shown) then 14/.015 = .21 50/.21 = 238 days before you could expect a greater than 50% chance of one being for sale (on autotrader). 100/.21 = 476 days before you would be "statistically" guaranteed to see one come up for sale on autotrader. This is probably more accurate because it considers the ability to actually find the car for sale from a well published source.

Of course.. it's been close to a decade since I took probability and statistic.. and I could be WAY OFF here :-)

[VAGTICJ7]

For me.. the question is.. "How often does a manual stryker blue gxp come up for sale?"

About half of GXPs were manual.. so about 27 or 28 of them exist. There is a 50% chance there isn't even one in this state.

you figure.. most people hang onto a car for 4 years or more.. a "special" car like a stryker blue gxp might get hung onto a bit longer.. (maybe forever) I know there are at least 2 or 3 that will never get sold (there are webpages dedicated to them and the owner isn't even driving them) so.. let's say on average people hold onto them for 7 years and there are 20 manuals that might actually get sold by normal people that switch in and out of cars.... 7 * 12 is 84 months... divided by the 20 cars... one might come up for sale every 4 or 5 months. (in 2015 when people start getting tired of them) But if people hang onto them, like I think they might, these numbers could change drastically.

When I bought my car it was between this one and a red one (within 500 miles.) This silver one happened to be 4 miles down the road from me, so i took it as a sign.

A quick search on AutoTrader shows 13 gxp's for sale at "any distance" no blues. 4 blacks, 4 reds, 3 silvers, 2 whites.


Another way to look at it.. if Stryker Blue was 3% of GXP production and manual stryker was 1.5%.. and there are roughly 14 for sale at any given time. (given the extremely imprecise sample just shown) then 14/.015 = .21 50/.21 = 238 days before you could expect a greater than 50% chance of one being for sale (on autotrader). 100/.21 = 476 days before you would be "statistically" guaranteed to see one come up for sale on autotrader. This is probably more accurate because it considers the ability to actually find the car for sale from a well published source.

Of course.. it's been close to a decade since I took probability and statistic.. and I could be WAY OFF here :-)

Well I took business statistics about 8 years ago... I'll take your word for it
But that sounds about right, I imagine if I had a car that was 1 of 28, and if I had the financial means, it wouldn't be going anywhere.

Yeah I get the feeling these will be the cars bringing in major $$$ at Barrett Jackson in 30-50 years. I just wish i could have picked up one of these back in 2009 when dealerships were having firesales on G8's.

[Sporin]

Not me but I still see the occasional Daewoo (we had a local dealer). No idea where those folks are getting parts.

Saabs, Saturns and dead GM brands are plentiful.

[s3bmx919]

Are there any Sterling owners out there in TCL land?

just saw my first one the other day, crazy looking cars

[DTMTrini]

Saturn SL...and proud of it. Makes me wish Saturn was still in business [more so, that these cars had at least SOME aftermarket support!]

[Woodski]

Outside of stuff like the headlights, and front fascia....it's all Subaru, right? When I had my Saabaru, I was under the impression that everything mechanical was available through Subaru - it's just a mish-mass of different Impreza parts (WRX clone with STi steering column or something like that).

Every body panel aside from the roof is 9-2x specific.

[al@absolute]

37 plymouth



this is what i've got in mind for it, similar stance, darker solid green color, chrome steelies. NO BILLET!!
I'm starting on it this winter now that the rocco is done. Starting with a Fatmans independant front end.

[MCTB]

My MGA was a BMC product but BMC wasnt a car company, merely a conglomerate of manufacturers much like BL.


Im an MG owner multiple times over.

[Sporin]

I remember that the last time I passed through the Lewiston/Auburn Maine area I noticed a bunch of Eagle Vision's.



I seriously counted 4 of them (anecdotally, that seems like a "lot").

I presume that Eagle's, like Plymouth's are still decently supported by the Chrysler parts system though.

[NYCgolf]

As per the saabaru questions. What i have found is that the parts are saabaru but they are not all the same years and i have not found a good source of interchangeable parts.

The most recent part i needed was an axle seal. The subaru axles are different then the saabaru ones but i think that what i really need is just a later model year.

[Hostile]

Traded in my '00 Saturn back in March.

[WakusPakus]

do people read?

honda ridge line? uh, honda sells cars still. in fact...i bet someone is buying one as we speak.

that's my chime in. i dont drive a car made by a manufacturer no longer in business.

[Omnilith]

Well, I do own a Plymouth now.

[Diamond Dave]

Saab owner. Not worried about

Sure, the run-of-the-mill maintenance parts would likely still be readily available in general aftermarket, but specific parts...? Buying used stuff is likely your only option, right?

It actually helps the aftermarket in many cases since, prior to flushing the business, the manufacturer might not have let certain parts groups come from aftermarket suppliers. FWIW, there are many NLA parts from manufacturers that are still in business (any company with part ownership from Fiat will have this same issue).

Outside of stuff like the headlights, and front fascia....it's all Subaru, right?

Yes, I'm not sure why Saab WRX owners don't understand badge engineering

[Roadkilled78]

We have 1.5...a Pontiac and an Alfa.