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      08-31-2012 12:02 PM #51


      I never realized what a hot button topic this was. Even when I didn't have kids, I was sympathetic to parents that were trying their best. Give a little smile to let them know I appreciated that they were making an attempt and that they didn't need to be embarrassed or frustrated. Plus, with so many a$$holes around them, it can help.

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      08-31-2012 12:17 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by jnm2.0t View Post
      It isn't like any parent wants to see their kid in that much pain, believe me if I could stop it I would. When we landed and he was back to all smiles the older folks made a point to rather loudly say that it was okay, we were all babies once, and that they felt bad for him. .
      For anyone with babies that cry during flights...my wife gets bad ear pain when flying or driving through the mountains. She uses these little things called "ear-planes" found at just about any pharmacy. The pain apparently has something to do with the ear canals being too narrow and fluid pressure changes causing the pain. These things open up your ear apparently and allow the pressure to adjust pain free. I don't really know...thats the bro-science explanation I gleaned from her.

      She always feels bad for babies on planes because its really the same issue she has...only she knows about the fix. Not sure how successful you'd be at putting what amount to hollow ear plugs in a baby's ear (might need to be aware of choking hazard as well), but maybe they make them for kids. If not, maybe attach them to each other with a string to avoid the choking hazard.

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      08-31-2012 12:55 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by TT for me View Post
      You didn't have to fly. You imposed your kid on others.
      Society's a b!tch. I'm guessing the annoyed a-holes didn't have to fly either.

      There's no doubt in my mind that you never thought about other people's comfort but your own.

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      08-31-2012 07:54 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by FlashRedGLS1.8T View Post
      Society's a b!tch. I'm guessing the annoyed a-holes didn't have to fly either.





      i'd say there are more a-holes on flights than just a baby crying here or there.

      though we did a flight at ~14 months with our son, just some crying on the descent (ears).

      as for restaurants - we take our son (and now the newborn) out once a week or so. no issues, the lil guy is more well-behaved in public and distracted by people/stuff. now for other parents, i throw it into two categories before it bothers me - those who are trying really hard (we have all been there/done that) or those parents whom ignore their kid/lack of - yep those type suck. personally, i'm way more concerned about my kids' noise/issues in public than the wife.

      those who complain - i'm sure you never cried as a baby/toddler
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      09-06-2012 12:34 PM #55
      Let's be honest, there are far too many parents who don't do much parenting of their children.

      That being said, it takes a real ***** to complain about this situation on an internet forum.
      It's all about squats and deads.

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      09-07-2012 11:59 AM #56
      I have a move I call the "Daddy Clamp".

      It involves a hand clamped over a crying babies mouth sealed so tightly not single sound escapes. I utilized it at a wedding this past weekend. I applied the clamp on my 11-month old after she crapped her pants and made a quick exit. No one even heard her.

    7. 09-07-2012 05:16 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by smittyATL View Post
      I have a move I call the "Daddy Clamp".

      It involves a hand clamped over a crying babies mouth sealed so tightly not single sound escapes. I utilized it at a wedding this past weekend. I applied the clamp on my 11-month old after she crapped her pants and made a quick exit. No one even heard her.
      Very practical move. I used it too on my 11 years-old when he was telling mommy about daddy's secret purchase.



      little cry babies > adult cry babies

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      09-08-2012 12:46 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by TT for me View Post
      It inconveniences everyone, not just those who choose not to have children. I have kids. They're either well behaved or they're outside. We flew when the kid's old enough to behave on a flight. We haven't flown with the newborn because she's only 8 months old. Don't try to justify your inconsideration by saying it's only bothersome to people without kids. I have kids and I don't want to hear your brats cry.
      "justify my inconsideration"? whatever that means. I'm more than considerate when I take my kids out. you missed my point. the point is that sh!t happens. everybody needs to calm down with their first world problems

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      09-08-2012 01:01 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by mkII_short_dub View Post
      "justify my inconsideration"? whatever that means. I'm more than considerate when I take my kids out. you missed my point. the point is that sh!t happens. everybody needs to calm down with their first world problems

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      10-25-2012 09:46 AM #60
      I would rather listen to a crying kid than tolerate talking to most of the ignorant folks in this thread. Hell..kids are more tolerable than most of the adults out there anyway...
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    11. 11-02-2012 10:09 PM #61
      My point is that I'm a parent with young kids. We don't have to fly. There's is nothing that requires us to travel on a commercial plane. NOTHING! I'm not even aware of medical emergencies that would require us to be on a plane. If anyone wants to see the kid, they can come and visit, or we can drive reasonable distances. If you choose to fly with young kids, then you're basically saying your chosen mode of transportation is more important than the well-being of your fellow passengers. That by definition is being inconsiderate. Of course most people on this forum don't understand the English language beyond the 2nd grade level.

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      11-02-2012 11:29 PM #62
      Yeah, it's true. I don't give you a second thought when I am deciding on how to transport my family. I do think about who is going to sit where, did we bring enough snacks, did we get naps in, do we have our tickets, things to keep the kids busy, remember where I parked, etc...

      We are respectful and do what we can, but if you think I am about to inconvenience my life so your life isn't inconvenienced, then you are in for a rude awakening. See, I won't lose a wink of sleep because of you. Does that make me "by definition being inconsiderate"? Meh, I don't give a ****.

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      11-03-2012 10:00 AM #63
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      11-04-2012 11:59 AM #64
      My kids aren't at the point where they can order yet. My wife and I obviously know what they like to eat, so we order it for them. but when the time comes, I'll let them order. It helps them become comfortable with people, it's an essential skill to learn as a kid.

      I agree when kids get really crazy and loud at a normal restaurant, parents should take action. We rarely go out anymore, but when my kids get really rowdy and bother people at a restaurant, I take them outside to let them calm down. If they don't, I usually just get the food to go.

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      11-04-2012 12:04 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by smittyATL View Post
      I have a move I call the "Daddy Clamp".

      It involves a hand clamped over a crying babies mouth sealed so tightly not single sound escapes. I utilized it at a wedding this past weekend. I applied the clamp on my 11-month old after she crapped her pants and made a quick exit. No one even heard her.

      I like that move, but does it tick of the child even more?

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      11-04-2012 12:55 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by thebigtuna21 View Post
      My kids aren't at the point where they can order yet. My wife and I obviously know what they like to eat, so we order it for them. but when the time comes, I'll let them order. It helps them become comfortable with people, it's an essential skill to learn as a kid.

      I agree when kids get really crazy and loud at a normal restaurant, parents should take action. We rarely go out anymore, but when my kids get really rowdy and bother people at a restaurant, I take them outside to let them calm down. If they don't, I usually just get the food to go.
      Way too much common sense going on in this post.

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      11-19-2012 10:45 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by mkII_short_dub View Post
      OP is a troll
      he doesn't even have kids but comes to the parenting forum to tell us how to raise our kids, LOL

      he's more passive aggressive than most females

      sorry OP but children are everywhere, and they don't always act perfect (news flash)
      I take great care to make sure my 4 and 8 y.o. act civilized whilst in public/in restaurants, but sometimes kids fuss & cry, that's life, deal with it. and get over yourself. you sound like a whiney baby yourself

      and until you have kids, don't tell others how to parent!!!!
      You're right. There are CHILDREN EVERYWHERE. Its not hard to HAVE kids, but it doesnt entitle you to call yourself a PARENT.

      Name calling. Really?

      Problem has been minimized. I just go to better restaurants and hotels.
      Less morons raising morons...

      Passive enough for you?
      Last edited by BetterByDesign; 11-19-2012 at 10:58 AM.
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      11-19-2012 11:24 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by TT for me View Post
      It inconveniences everyone, not just those who choose not to have children. I have kids. They're either well behaved or they're outside. We flew when the kid's old enough to behave on a flight. We haven't flown with the newborn because she's only 8 months old. Don't try to justify your inconsideration by saying it's only bothersome to people without kids. I have kids and I don't want to hear your brats cry.
      Nice to see some parents responding. Thanks.
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    19. 11-20-2012 11:20 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by TT for me View Post
      My point is that I'm a parent with young kids. We don't have to fly. There's is nothing that requires us to travel on a commercial plane. NOTHING! I'm not even aware of medical emergencies that would require us to be on a plane. If anyone wants to see the kid, they can come and visit, or we can drive reasonable distances. If you choose to fly with young kids, then you're basically saying your chosen mode of transportation is more important than the well-being of your fellow passengers. That by definition is being inconsiderate. Of course most people on this forum don't understand the English language beyond the 2nd grade level.

      This is the dumbest **** I have ever heard. Fellow passengers? Who are you and why should I care? I paid for my plane ticket just like you. You know going in there is a possibility of a child being on the plane and crying. You don't like it, alter your method of transportation, or just become more tolerable like a normal understanding human being. There is nothing that requires you to travel on a commercial plane.

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      11-20-2012 03:46 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by TT for me View Post
      My point is that I'm a parent with young kids. We don't have to fly. There's is nothing that requires us to travel on a commercial plane. NOTHING! I'm not even aware of medical emergencies that would require us to be on a plane. If anyone wants to see the kid, they can come and visit, or we can drive reasonable distances. If you choose to fly with young kids, then you're basically saying your chosen mode of transportation is more important than the well-being of your fellow passengers. That by definition is being inconsiderate. Of course most people on this forum don't understand the English language beyond the 2nd grade level.
      You must live a very unhappy life. All those people around you, constantly being inconsiderate. By choosing a "public" form of transportation instread of a personal one, you have chosen to subject yourself to the public. Don't want to deal with it? Drive your car.
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      11-20-2012 05:05 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Fahrbomb View Post
      This is the dumbest **** I have ever heard. Fellow passengers? Who are you and why should I care? I paid for my plane ticket just like you. You know going in there is a possibility of a child being on the plane and crying. You don't like it, alter your method of transportation, or just become more tolerable like a normal understanding human being. There is nothing that requires you to travel on a commercial plane.


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      12-03-2012 02:56 PM #72
      As a parent, I completely agree with the original post. I think the underlying issue is a society full of selfish people. Parents who simply don't care how their or their kid's attitude and actions impact other people.

      I also think a compromise has to be made between both sides of the argument. Those easily irritated by kids in public need to build up some tolerance. At the same time, parents need to teach their kids how to act properly and politely in public. If I am in public and kids are running around with nearly zero supervision being rude to other people...I take issue. If I see a parent trying to keep their kids under control, explaining to them manners, exiting the place, etc... I appreciate it. I guess to put it simply, I respect parents who are being actual parents and I want nothing to do with those who got knocked up on accident at 17 and have a kid in tow "because they have to". One gets my patience, the other doesn't.
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