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    Thread: Worst 4-cylinder engines

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      08-11-2012 05:09 PM #1
      V6 motors, V8 motors, now let's do 4 cylinders.

      Guess who...



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      08-11-2012 05:12 PM #2
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      08-11-2012 05:16 PM #3
      Iron duke
      Have a on me...

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      08-11-2012 05:23 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Justin_Eshelman View Post
      False.

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      08-11-2012 05:25 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by mm3 View Post
      False.
      It neva loses. Didn't say anything about neva breaking.

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      08-11-2012 05:29 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by David802 View Post
      It neva loses. Didn't say anything about neva breaking.
      I prefer the term.."high maintenance"
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      What just cause Im new.

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      08-11-2012 05:32 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      I prefer the term.."high maintenance"
      Isn't that what Volkswagen means in English?

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      08-11-2012 05:39 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by David802 View Post
      It neva loses. Didn't say anything about neva breaking.
      Of all the problems people like to talk about MkIVs having, problems with the engine itself are a pretty small proportion. I don't think that problems with e ignition system (coils) or the water pump count as "engine" problems. Cracked rings, weak head gaskets, weak rods, etc., now those would be engine problems.
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      08-11-2012 05:42 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by jddaigle View Post
      Of all the problems people like to talk about MkIVs having, problems with the engine itself are a pretty small proportion. I don't think that problems with e ignition system (coils) or the water pump count as "engine" problems. Cracked rings, weak head gaskets, weak rods, etc., now those would be engine problems.
      I was joking... Jump next time.

    10. 08-11-2012 05:44 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by jddaigle View Post
      Of all the problems people like to talk about MkIVs having, problems with the engine itself are a pretty small proportion. I don't think that problems with e ignition system (coils) or the water pump count as "engine" problems. Cracked rings, weak head gaskets, weak rods, etc., now those would be engine problems.
      Uh no. Those still count as engine problems.

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      08-11-2012 05:57 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by surefooted View Post
      Uh no. Those still count as engine problems.
      They sure do. The 1.8T popped into my head when I read the title. Also doesn't help that it would sludge up due to oil spec/capacity until VW changed those... It only has a good rep because it is tunable; cheap power... and decently reliable once as you repair all the OEM stuff with good stuff.

      On the other hand, the 2.Slow while agonizingly out of date is not a 'worst' engine due to how robust it is... slow yes, not great on fuel, but durable as hell.

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      08-11-2012 06:05 PM #12


      Ford 2.3 HSC as found in Tempo/Topaz (also in 2.5 form for Taurus). The worst aspect of a lackluster car, they sounded terrible, were slow revving and lacking in power. Apparently, it was easier for Ford to chop a third of the Falcon's engine off rather than reconfigure the Pinto engine for transverse duty.
      Makes the Chrysler 2.2/2.5 seem superior (which it was in comparison).

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      08-11-2012 06:07 PM #13
      Weren't the early Quad Four engines troublesome and sounded like a meat grinder?



      But they did deliver on the power and economy promises.
      It's easy to make power from a four banger when you don't have to worry about introducing extra rotating mass to keep the mill from shaking itself to death.

      The 190 hp 1990 Quad Four Beretta was a surplussing potent car (for the price back then).

      They reduced the power on later years to try and help the terrible NVH levels.
      Who cares how much power an engine makes at XXXX rpm if the engine acts like it is destroying itself when run there.
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    14. 08-11-2012 06:29 PM #14
      With out a doubt, its the GM 2300 (Chevy Vega). It's a testimony to how much damage you can do with a little knowledge. Next, I would say the GM Iron Duke.
      Last edited by VR6Now; 08-11-2012 at 06:35 PM.

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      08-11-2012 07:29 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Weren't the early Quad Four engines troublesome and sounded like a meat grinder?
      I don't think they sounded too bad...reliability wasn't one of their strengths though.

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      08-11-2012 07:33 PM #16
      I dunno about the Iron Duke being on this list, I mean that's what the USPS uses.


      The Ford Pinto engine is pretty mediocre though.

    17. 08-11-2012 07:39 PM #17
      The GM pushrod 2.2 that they used in the Crapalier for a couple of decades was pretty miserable. Noisy, no power, mediocre fuel consumption, and head gasket leaks were common.

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      08-11-2012 07:44 PM #18
      The Chrysler 2.2 liter used int the K-Cars were known for blown headgaskets among other things.

    19. 08-11-2012 07:58 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by classicjetta View Post
      I dunno about the Iron Duke being on this list, I mean that's what the USPS uses.
      You can find them on a ton of smaller boats too.
      call it potatography

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      08-11-2012 08:04 PM #20
      pardon my 'merican

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      08-11-2012 08:25 PM #22


      The 2.0 SOHC 16v motor used in the Dodge/Plymouth neons from 95-99. They eat headgaskets like cookiemonster eats cookies..

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      08-11-2012 08:29 PM #23
      The 2.0 Split Port in Focuses. Known for dropping valve seats.


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      08-11-2012 08:47 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Weren't the early Quad Four engines troublesome and sounded like a meat grinder?


      My dad had a '91 Grand Am with the high-output Quad Four - it sounded like a bunch of rocks in a blender and felt like it too, but he never had any reliability issues that I can remember (over 30k-some miles).
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      08-11-2012 08:51 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by jddaigle View Post
      Of all the problems people like to talk about MkIVs having, problems with the engine itself are a pretty small proportion. I don't think that problems with e ignition system (coils) or the water pump count as "engine" problems. Cracked rings, weak head gaskets, weak rods, etc., now those would be engine problems.
      Baahahahahaha

      I love you people

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