OEM LED tail lights in hand! Help requested!

[flipside99]

Hey everyone.

I bought the LED tails from the hybrid. I'm currently in NY and my TSI (GLI to the american folk) is in 5k miles away Brazil. I'm pretty sure these aren't going to be just "plug & play". They did come with some adapters, but I have a feeling I'm going to need something to keep the bulb-out warnings away.

Any thoughts on what I should stock up on while I'm here to make sure these will install ok? I already have a VAGCOM, but I don't think that's all it's going to take.

Here's some pics. As a quick note, it looks like VW "cheaped out" and used a standard bulb for the back up lights.

[itskohler]

Look up how to do LED tails on the MKVs. That might help a little.

[grcarlo]

How much those babies set you back if you dont mind me asking? Did you just grab them from your local dealer? Cant wait for these and the new headlights to drop into my GLI

[flipside99]

$799 on ebay.

[jettsy]

Make sure you post up pics of the process

[Verebs1]

Try the led tails adapters on bold sport

[Mo_Focus]

definatly need the adapter. Dont worry about the back up lights, golf has the signal and back-up lights regular bulbs as well.

LED's are mostly for brake lights and city lights.

very excited to see what the installed lights would look like.

Goodluck with your install.

[flipside99]

The lights came with these adapters. Could this be all I need?

[Mo_Focus]

The lights came with these adapters. Could this be all I need?

try them on, if they fit then thats all you need, plus the wires and terminals. before you buy the wire terminals, look up ebay, you might be able to buy a complete harness with wires cheaper then buying the terminal wires from VW.

[flipside99]

Well, my car is 5k miles away so I can't try it. Anyone around Middletown, NY around with a GLI want to experiment?

[Mo_Focus]

Well, my car is 5k miles away so I can't try it. Anyone around Middletown, NY around with a GLI want to experiment?

they only gave you the 4 plugs? i think the ones in the picture goes to the back of the LED lights, you still need 4 more plugs that go to the car harness for the lights.

I wonder if the curent pins from the car harness will fit the plugs.

[flipside99]

They guy I bought them from on ebay said the four adapters would be all I need.. I'm not so sure about that though. I only have monday to gather the parts I'll need before I go back to brazil, so I'm a bit concerned.

[Mo_Focus]

the plugs you have, do they fit the back of the tailights right now?

[flipside99]

Yep, perfect fit. I'm thinking I just might have to do a wire swap from the harness in the car.. I'm just worried that it can't be that simple..

[MaxBlock88]

Well, my car is 5k miles away so I can't try it. Anyone around Middletown, NY around with a GLI want to experiment?

i'm in irvington, ny. if u wanna come here we can try it on my car.

[Verebs1]

like this except with 4 pins.

Its a straight swap but the wires aren't the same plug. You are better off making adapters like this or cutting and soldering the new ones on. I'll get you the P/Ns...
000979025 (old .5 mm wire $9.90)
or
000979025 E (new .5 mm wire $16.50)

OR

000979150 (old 1 mm wire $9.90)
or
000979150 E (new 1 mm wire $16.50)

You will need 16 halves so that's 8 wires.

If you wanted to make adapters you also need:

4x 191972714 ($19.80)
8x 000979129 (old 1 mm wire $8.50)
or
8x 000979129E (new 1 mm wire $11.50)

[itskohler]

[Verebs1]

Either way, it's going to cost you. About $115 with std. 15% discount if you cut and solder. Or $260 if you make adapters.

OR

you could buy the adapters from bold sport and then take them apart for about $100 after shipping to Brazil.

[flipside99]

the plugs that came with the lights look like plugs on the right side of that pic from bold sport.

So, if my local VW even has the parts.. the best route would be to get 8 000979025, right?

Or 8x 000979129E to make adapters... I guess I should try both the old and new P/N depending on what they have in stock tomorrow morning..

[flipside99]

Let me clarify here so I don't go crazy..

I need 8 of any of these (mix & match possible i guess depending on stock at the dealer):

000979025 (old .5 mm wire $9.90)
000979025 E (new .5 mm wire $16.50)
000979150 (old 1 mm wire $9.90)
000979150 E (new 1 mm wire $16.50)


if I want to make adapters I need clarification here:

4x 191972714 ($19.80)
8x 000979129 (old 1 mm wire $8.50)
(total 12?)
or
8x 000979129E (new 1 mm wire $11.50)

Thanks

[flipside99]

I think I should point out again, that my jetta is the Euro spec highline, so I have 4 wires (amber turn signals) that will be going to 3 wires for these new LED tails..

[Verebs1]

I think I should point out again, that my jetta is the Euro spec highline, so I have 4 wires (amber turn signals) that will be going to 3 wires for these new LED tails..

What exactly do you mean you have 3 wires?

On the NAR cars the plugs are 4 pin.

[flipside99]

The plugs directly on the LED tail lights have only 3 pins, there's no pin where the "fourth" would be.

[Verebs1]

Let me clarify here so I don't go crazy..

I need 8 of any of these (mix & match possible i guess depending on stock at the dealer):

000979025 (old .5 mm wire $9.90)
000979025 E (new .5 mm wire $16.50)
000979150 (old 1 mm wire $9.90)
000979150 E (new 1 mm wire $16.50)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
YES


if I want to make adapters I need clarification here:

4x 191972714 ($19.80) <-- These are the female adapters for the existing plugs in your car.
8x 000979129 (old 1 mm wire $8.50)
(total 12?) <-- NO
or
8x 000979129E (new 1 mm wire $11.50)

Thanks

Mix and match 8 total 000979129E or 000979129 or any wire this type in other thickness. (comes in 2mm too)

[Verebs1]

The plugs directly on the LED tail lights have only 3 pins, there's no pin where the "fourth" would be.

Really? The plugs they sent you have 4 pins though. Do you have a picture of the plugs next to and inside the back of the light?

[flipside99]

The plugs they sent have 4 locations for pins, or pin holes... the actual lights themselves only have 3 pins. Pics coming.

[flipside99]

You can actually see it in the 3rd picture I posted above.

[flipside99]

Another comment, I went o 3 VW dealers in NY and none of them had any of the parts in your list, so I have nothing..

[flipside99]

I found a little time to see how much work this would take.

Obviously not plug and play. Is it possible for me to take the wires out of the original harness and put them in the new adapters?


This is the picture of the original harness in the car for the trunk lid lights next to the adapters that came with the LED tails.



This is the original trunk lid tail light



This is the LED version.

[SimpleStaple]

I found a little time to see how much work this would take.

Obviously not plug and play. Is it possible for me to take the wires out of the original harness and put them in the new adapters?


This is the picture of the original harness in the car for the trunk lid lights next to the adapters that came with the LED tails.



This is the original trunk lid tail light



This is the LED version.

Seems very complex!

Sure seems that is the route you have to take, unless further adapters are available.

Anyone care to cite whether VAGCOM coding is necessary as well, or...?

[JETTABRAZIL]

I will start working on it today.

[Mo_Focus]

Seems very complex!

Sure seems that is the route you have to take, unless further adapters are available.

Anyone care to cite whether VAGCOM coding is necessary as well, or...?

Honeslty I think you need to get the harness. Pay the 100$ and get a proper harness. That way you are not messing up with your wiring.

As for VCDS modification, you will need to install the lights first and see if you get a bulb out. Also start looking for the MK6 Golf LED tail light mod, you might learn some stuff from those guys.

[Verebs1]

How about this, Send me the plugs and money and Ill make you the harness and It will work 100%

[Mo_Focus]

wonder if this fits.

http://www.bks-tuning.com/epages/171...ducts/VWGOL064

[flipside99]

How about this, Send me the plugs and money and Ill make you the harness and It will work 100%

I just might take you up on that..