porsche dodge or ford?
post em up
Last edited by Geechie_Suede; 08-12-2012 at 09:49 AM.
Previously Owned: 96 LR Disco SD/65 Corvair Monza/93 Corolla Wagon DX/89 LeSabre Limited/96 Camry LE/99 Regal GS/95 Accord EX/98 CSVT/90 LS400/89 Supra N/A/91 Legacy SS
Current: 2001 Ford Crown Victoria PI
Off road use is completely different. The V10s rely on high RPMs to churn out quite a bit of HP, and they do so very well once you get into the powerband.
Personally, I don't care for high strung motors. I am not by any means promoting American metal that does nothing but leave black stripes everywhere, but most V8's have more livable HP/TQ ratios than V10s. The more "relaxed" V12's also have better HP/TQ ratios than the V10 line tends to. There are plenty of high strung V12s out there though, so that's not a very good comparison.
Last edited by MB_Fahrer; 08-12-2012 at 12:42 PM.
'I don't like driving a car with traction-control lights flashing all the time. It's like having sex in a wetsuit'
A Carrera GT makes 435 lb-ft because it's 5.7 liters, not because it's a V10. Any other normally aspirated gasoline 5.7 liter will make about the same amount of torque regardless of cylinder count.
LFA sounds great, but the car around the engine sucks, especially the transmission that's behind it.
Give me a Gallardo, and send it to UGR. They sound unbelievable, make stupid power, and have the ability to put it to the ground. They are the ultimate street car, IMO.
When you can make a 1200+hp Supra look that stupid on the highway, and then drive home on pump gas, with the AC blowing, that is incredible.
Last edited by SVTDanny; 08-12-2012 at 02:20 PM.
Jesus... I have watched many videos but that one really shows just how stupid quick those cars take off. The Supra seems able to hang after the launch but with lag it will NEVER beat those things, even then I think the fact that it is over double the displacement AND TT...
The BMW s85 v10 is not a bad engine... not as high strung as others.. unfortunately it is almost always linked to a horrible transmission.. and heavy car.
I would contend that this engine in a lightweight car with a proper manual would pretty much be "the ultimate driving machine" but BMW doesn't really make that car... truth in advertising much?
The Viper v10 is pretty awesome.. but the early model V10s are now being out done by modern v8s in terms of horse power.
That LFA and how quick it revs is truly a thing of beauty.. unfortunately it is also linked to the wrong transmission in every application.
OF course the CGT and VAG group V10s are probably the winners.. but I worry about reliability on the VAG group v10s.
Overall.. I am kind of with MB_Fahrer on the idea that there really aren't any great v10s. If you are going to go with large cylinder counts... 12s are naturally balanced for primary and secondary order harmonics... and v8s are just about as smooth at 10s... but are more common and cheaper to operate while producing similar horsepower and a more laid back, easy going, power delivery.
I wish more manufacturers produced 12s at economical price points.... but.. such is life.
Last edited by x1000rpms; 08-12-2012 at 04:45 PM.