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    Thread: Multiple misfires on cold start

    1. Member lionel2341's Avatar
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      08-14-2012 09:03 AM #1
      OK has anybody realy figuired out how to fix the cold start misfires on the 2.0 FSI engine???

      With all the experts we have on this forum, no one has a reliable fix yet?? and yes I've done all the suspected parts and valve cleaning.

    2. 08-14-2012 03:38 PM #2
      I do

      I see no auto-scan.
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      08-14-2012 09:27 PM #3
      I'll try and post one tomorrow.

    4. 08-14-2012 09:48 PM #4
      Please do so with a list of things you have done.

      If any AFT parts vs OEM please specify.
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      08-15-2012 09:08 AM #5
      Wednesday,15,August,2012,07:09:08:05836
      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
      Data version: 20120401



      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


      Chassis Type: 1K0
      Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72


      VIN: 3VWXJ81K96M649485 Mileage: 140540km/87327miles

      00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
      01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
      08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
      09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
      0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
      16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
      17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
      19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
      1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
      25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
      37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
      42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
      44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
      46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
      52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
      55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
      56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
      62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
      72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 B HW: 1K0 907 115 B
      Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0040
      Revision: --H10--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2280962
      Coding: 0403010A18070160
      Shop #: WSC 09455 444 92435
      VCID: 254AE515ECFA271

      2 Faults Found:
      000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
      P0300 - 008 - - Intermittent - MIL ON
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 10101000
      Fault Priority: 0
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Mileage: 140420 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 05:10:24

      Freeze Frame:
      RPM: 1207 /min
      Load: 34.1 %
      Speed: 0.0 km/h
      Temperature: 30.0°C
      Temperature: 28.0°C
      Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
      Voltage: 14.351 V

      000772 - Cylinder 4
      P0304 - 008 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent - MIL ON
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 10101000
      Fault Priority: 0
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Mileage: 140421 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 05:10:55

      Freeze Frame:
      RPM: 2174 /min
      Load: 44.7 %
      Speed: 18.0 km/h
      Temperature: 38.0°C
      Temperature: 27.0°C
      Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
      Voltage: 14.351 V

      Readiness: 0000 0000

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
      Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
      Revision: 00T12001
      Coding: 0021122
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 408454811398E29

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 907 044 BA
      Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0606
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 67D6AF1D5676F51

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
      Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E
      Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
      Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000000126646
      Coding: 07078E234004100000140000001400000008770B5C
      Shop #: WSC 06490 444 01052
      VCID: 2B5E132D8A1E111

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
      Component: Wischer VW350 012 0402
      Coding: 00065493
      Shop #: WSC 06490

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
      Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 E HW: 8E0 035 593 E
      Component: SDAR XM H03 0080
      Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7E0028832
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 2B5E132D8A1E111

      1 Fault Found:
      02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
      000 - -
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01100000
      Fault Priority: 7
      Fault Frequency: 7
      Reset counter: 176
      Mileage: 137676 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 05:09:47


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E HW: 1K0 909 605 E
      Component: 1R AIRBAG VW8R 024 6300
      Revision: 03024000 Serial number: 0037KD02ZH7I
      Coding: 0012626
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 2E581A39B90C649

      Part No: 1K0 959 339 B
      Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0003

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AJ HW: 1K0 953 549 AJ
      Component: J0527 034 0070
      Coding: 0002021
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 7AF0E66935C4789

      Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
      Component: E0221 007 0050

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
      Part No: 1K6 920 972 A
      Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1112
      Coding: 0023203
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 30640441A338729

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
      Component: Gateway H10 0120
      Revision: H10 Serial number: 28001055288915
      Coding: 7D3F03680F1002
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 2A50162985E4089

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K5 919 965 A HW: 1K5 919 965 A
      Component: Kompass 005 0003
      Revision: 00005000 Serial number: 1293324T057501
      Coding: 0000003
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 397239657042B31

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
      Part No: 1K6 920 972 A
      Component: IMMO VDD 1112
      Shop #: WSC 08261 444 84834
      VCID: 30640441A338729

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1K0-919-887-MFD2.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 919 887 G
      Component: Navigation 0050
      Coding: 0000101
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 3D7A2D75646A8F1

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
      Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
      Coding: 0001269
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 36683259415C5C9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
      Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
      Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D04 1606
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 32600E49AD34409

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AT HW: 1K0 959 433 AT
      Component: 01 KSG PQ35 G2 010 0101
      Revision: 00010000 Serial number: 00000000000000
      Coding: 1B900E880106281B0904050FB0080F0480A540
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 82001E89DD14B09

      Component: Sounder n.mounted

      Component: NGS n.mounted

      Component: IRUE n.mounted

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
      Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
      Coding: 0001269
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 37763F5D4656A51

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
      Part No: 1T0 907 357
      Component: Dynamische LWR 0003
      Coding: 0000003
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: F4EC485197A08E9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-095.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 035 095 F
      Component: Radio 0050
      Coding: 0040404
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 2854EC219BE83A9

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
      Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
      Coding: 0000144
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 31620145A8327B1

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
      Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
      Coding: 0000144
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 32600E49AD34409

      No fault code found.

      End ---------------------------------------------------------------------


      All parts changed were OEM, IE: spark plugs (Bosch) injectors, coil paks(latest rev) evap control module, HPFP, cam fo0llower (didn,t need changing) valves cleaned, air filter, fuel filter, even changed gas stations.

      It's always cyl #4 that misses and only initial start in the morning, once car goes into closed loop, car runs perfect with avg 34 to 35 mpg hwy. It never missis during the rest of the day. I monitor during the day and no misses are detected. It only happens early in the morning when I first start the car after it sits overnight.

    6. 08-15-2012 09:18 AM #6
      What heat range spark plug are you using?
      Part#

      Is the car modified?

      If it only misses cold one time, sounds like a little carbon at back of intake valve where its hard to clean.

      Also could be ground connection at coil pack itself, consider a mod of all grounds direct to battery to enhance connectivity.

      Battery voltage strength cold may be insufficient.
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      European Parts Emporium/Performance --- Immobilizer Solutions LLC --------
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    7. Member lionel2341's Avatar
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      08-15-2012 11:21 AM #7
      Spark plugs are FR6KPP332S Bosch

      Battery is brand New OEM VW lest than 5 months old

      I'll have to check the grounds

      Car has no Mods, stock GLI

    8. 08-15-2012 12:44 PM #8
      Okay.

      Since its stock. If all grounds check out OK.

      You could try a heat range slightly hotter for the cold start issue with part #

      Bosch FR7LDC+ YTTRIUM

      Just make sure to use high test fuel. Also monitor the CF in 0x01-08-020

      You may find that it will get even better fuel MPG.
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