whats up everyone. I'm back, so of yous may remember me from "The Beast" 181whp on CIS-E back in 08... well I still have that car, but currently no motor in it BUT i now have a mk1 16v! and am going to squeeze out the most power i can out of this one too!.. gonna start small and work my way up again... havin the dyno charts to prove it too..
here's the specs soo far.
9a bottom end stock
PL head stock
TT "street" cams
TT adj. cam gear +2 degrees
modified airbox w/ K&N
CIS motronic ( have several ecu's) TT stock, TT for cams, and AMS..
stock manifold to scirocco downpipe to europort exhaust..( TT head & exhaust comin soon)
so i welcome all questions and comments and im gonna update this thread daily! im super psyched to be back and want to prove once again that 16v's RULE!
Last edited by redGTInj; 03-25-2013 at 10:08 AM.
glad to see you are back
91 GTI 16V Project - All Motor - My Build Thread - http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ssembly-Thread
thanx!...ive been following ur thread too! im at work today, tryin to find a place i could dyno at today, i really need to get some base numbers with this setup now. i really just wanna get some pulls with a wideband...
the block from the red car is toast, but i recently refreshed the cylinder head from it...and it will one day make its way into the rabbit...
sooo..i was never able to make it to the dyno like i had planned..BUT did get some more work done!
i slapped on a set of oldschool UNORTHDOX lightweight underdrive pulleys.. which i had on the original beast..
underiven and lighter crank pulley, and lightweight waterpump pulley..same diamter as the outer one on stock setups.. it also gets rid of the stupid free spin pulley that makes noise..
i also have apower steering lightweight pulley which i dont need in the mk1
and i also have the alternator pulley, but i havent got that from my old motor in storage..put i got a pic of teh setup soo far..
thanx for the kind words.... i still have the cylidner head from "the beast" with EVERYTHING... im thinking of going to different cams with this car though.. ill snap a pic of the head..
and as for the short runner.. im posyched u remember! i found a pic of teh crazy setup...i did go to the dyno with it...but i NEVER revelaed the numbers..
I don't really care what numbers the turbo people are making, I'm more interested in what the N/A motors make, and that particular n/a motor had some good numbers. And whether or not that particular intake was of a benefit or not would be interesting. And yes, a lot has been done, but not all share their results, and dynos are not all equal, but they are the best we have for comparing the results.
no real reason, just had a lot of things goin on, and had to put th ecars on the back burner, and then the motor ended up givin me problems... ill try and see if i have the actual printout i should somewhere..i also had them overlay before and after short runner...
Look at your dyno and compare the old torque to the new torque in order to see if you're really moving more air, Horsepower is not something you should use in gauging anything as it's just a function of Torque and Torque's the motor's true power output.
GOOD news i wa sable to find the old dyno with a 176WHP run and the short runner run overlayed...the graph is screwed up cause it got wet somehow ove rthe years and caused the lines to run...but the numbers are clear...
ill snap a pic and post in the AM..
Last edited by redGTInj; 09-11-2012 at 10:55 PM.
anyways like u asked...heres an older dyno.. IIRC the rpm is off a little i had the stock jetronic rev limiter at 7,200rpm at this time.. later setup was able to rev much higher
Last edited by redGTInj; 09-11-2012 at 10:58 PM.
I know where you come from, somewhere around Northern NJ, just like me. If you're like me then you've been to Ave P in the mid 90's and early 2000's, Hunts Point, Zerega, Global, York street (Eliz), Ikea (we started it then it was shut down), etc, all local.
But anyway, Just saw your dyno sheet, the torque looks pretty good, did you ever do a back to back run with a 50mm vs the cut down short runner? I ask because I had all that stuff done except for the runner maybe as early as 2000 but never dynoed anyway so yes, i'm curious and I'm not downplaying anything you're doing