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    Thread: VAG - What determines the body type, code ?

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      2011/Skoda/Superb 2 Combi 2.0 TDI 170
      08-14-2012 04:47 PM #1
      Hi all, this can be just a general question in case of trying of retrofit the ABS pump with HHC, XDS etc. to the older type vehicle. This is somethig which I would like to undestand better. Generally I observed the problem when retrofitting the ABS module from newer (CECM type xxx 937 087 xx) vehicle to the older one (CECM xxx 937 049 xx). Just analyzing the electric diagrams, there are no differences in general, but:

      1. CECM type and pinout is different, however the functionality is the same
      2. Instrument cluster with IMMO and it's pinout is different
      3. ABS module has different pinout.

      Can I assume that if I replace the CECM, instrument cluster & ABS and rewire the plugs, the ABS pump will consider, "OK" i'm installed in a new body, so I will allow coding" ???

      Below my old scan from the vehicle with rewided ABS pump. However, I'm doing the adapter from old to new CECM, just to know if it will work, Something like that:



      Please let me know Your comments.

      Scan here...

      Thursday,12,January,2012,22:08:42:24735
      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.1
      Data version: 20111209



      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


      Chassis Type: 1K0
      Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 69 72 76
      77

      VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ5W103078 Mileage: 193630km/120316miles

      01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
      02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
      03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
      08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
      09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
      16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
      18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
      19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
      25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
      42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
      52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
      56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
      69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
      72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
      76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
      77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
      Part No SW: 03G 906 016 HK HW: 028 101 225 1
      Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 7000
      Revision: 12345678 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D1198478
      Coding: 0000078
      Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
      VCID: 73CB10C712AE08C

      No fault code found.
      Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
      Part No SW: 02E 300 041 HW: 02E 927 770 AD
      Component: GSG DSG 041 0823
      Revision: 04004010 Serial number: 00000411170272
      Coding: 0000020
      Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
      VCID: CF833C375EC68CC

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
      Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0108
      Revision: 00H31001
      Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000000000
      Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00076
      VCID: 76CD29D3C1DC1D4

      5 Faults Found:
      03306 - Coding Not Valid
      000 - - - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100000
      Fault Priority: 6
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 115
      Mileage: 193635 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      Count: 3
      Count: 14
      Count: 12288
      Count: 4161
      Count: 43264
      Count: 0
      Count: 65280
      Count: 0

      01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
      000 - -
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01100000
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 115
      Mileage: 1048575 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      Count: 3
      Count: 12
      Count: 20992
      Count: 195
      Count: 43264
      Count: 0
      Count: 0
      Count: 0

      01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
      005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01100101
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 115
      Mileage: 193635 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      Count: 3
      Count: 14
      Count: 12288
      Count: 279
      Count: 43520
      Count: 0
      Count: 65280
      Count: 0

      00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
      005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01100101
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 115
      Mileage: 193635 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      Count: 3
      Count: 14
      Count: 12288
      Count: 295
      Count: 43520
      Count: 0
      Count: 65280
      Count: 0

      01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
      005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01100101
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 115
      Mileage: 193635 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      Count: 3
      Count: 14
      Count: 12288
      Count: 270
      Count: 43520
      Count: 0
      Count: 65280
      Count: 0


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BL HW: 1K0 907 044 BL
      Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0909
      Revision: 00090016 Serial number: 00000000000000
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 72C515C36DB4014

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
      Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
      Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
      Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000001163462
      Coding: F5888E2010041500C70F0C006400000080097F075550012C00 0000000000
      Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
      VCID: 334BD0C7522E48C

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
      Component: Wischer VW358 012 0401
      Coding: 00065493
      Shop #: WSC 00066

      Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
      Component: RLS 290708 046 0204
      Coding: 01509151
      Shop #: WSC 00066

      1 Fault Found:
      00093 - Terminal 15 for Starting Relevant Consumers
      008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101000
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 155
      Mileage: 193635 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      OFF
      Voltage: 11.95 V
      OFF
      ON
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
      Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 C HW: 1T0 909 605 C
      Component: 02 AIRBAG VW62 0506 1500
      Revision: 09025000 Serial number: 0038BD0AJUS-
      Coding: 0012338
      Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
      VCID: 354FEEDF5C5A56C

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AK HW: 1K0 953 549 AK
      Component: J0527 032 0070
      Coding: 0012142
      Shop #: WSC 72583 142 63925
      VCID: 7BDB38E73AFE40C

      Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
      Component: E0221 002 0010

      2 Faults Found:
      00888 - Wiper Switch for Intermittent Operation (E22)
      014 - Defective
      00002 - Transmission Control Unit
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
      Part No: 1T0 920 872 F
      Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4312
      Coding: 0007103
      Shop #: WSC 60712 146 93076
      VCID: 3753E4D74656A4C

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
      Part No: 1K0 815 007 BH
      Component: Standheizer 042 4404
      Revision: 00042000 Serial number: 09011075000000
      Coding: 0001112
      Shop #: WSC 70572 146 95136
      VCID: 6BFB08A74A9ED0C

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
      Component: J533 Gateway H07 0062
      Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 270708F2002175
      Coding: ED807F4E000E028002
      Shop #: WSC 75752 146 69932
      VCID: 354FEEDF5C5A56C

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
      Part No: 1T0 920 872 F
      Component: IMMO VDD 4312
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 3753E4D74656A4C

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
      Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AA HW: 1T0 959 701 AA
      Component: Tuer-SG 009 2111
      Coding: 0004598
      Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
      VCID: 76CD29D301DC1D4

      1 Fault Found:
      00120 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Driver Side
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
      Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
      Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.071 H07 1806
      Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
      VCID: 3449D3DB57204F4

      1 Fault Found:
      00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
      000 - -

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AR HW: 1K0 959 433 AR
      Component: 01 KSG PQ35 G2 010 0101
      Revision: 00010000 Serial number: 00000000000000
      Coding: 189008085103487F000205056008CFC650A140
      Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
      VCID: 8021CF0BD318A34

      Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
      Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809
      Coding: 00000000
      Shop #: WSC 00000

      Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
      Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

      Part No: 1K0 907 719 B
      Component: Neigungssensor 004 0003

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
      Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 S HW: 1T0 959 702 S
      Component: Tuer-SG 009 2111
      Coding: 0004598
      Shop #: WSC 13240 111 59852
      VCID: 48B1972B3BA8DB4

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AA HW: 1K0 035 186 AA
      Component: Radio RCD310 016 0049
      Revision: 01000000 Serial number: VWZ1Z2K8323615
      Coding: 0500040104
      Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
      VCID: 65EF7E9F6C7AE6C

      3 Faults Found:
      00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14)
      011 - Open Circuit
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101011
      Fault Priority: 5
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 115
      Mileage: 193635 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 00:25:31

      03138 - Input AUX IN
      011 - Open Circuit
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101011
      Fault Priority: 5
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 115
      Mileage: 193635 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 00:25:36

      00468 - CD-ROM Drive (R92)
      014 - Defective
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101110
      Fault Priority: 5
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 115
      Mileage: 193635 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 00:25:31


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 959 703 B
      Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0214
      Coding: 0000048
      Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
      VCID: 2F43DCB7BE066CC

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 69: Trailer Labels: 1K0-907-383-MY7.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 HW: 1K0 907 383
      Component: ANHAENGERELEKTR 001 0020
      Coding: 0000001
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: EAF58DA3C564494

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 959 704 B
      Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0214
      Coding: 0000048
      Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
      VCID: 3041DFCBA338734

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 1K0-919-283.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 919 283 A
      Component: 02 Einparkhilfe 0101
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 2D7FC6BFB40A1EC

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 77: Telephone Labels: 3C0-035-730.lbl
      Part No SW: 5N0 035 730 B HW: 5N0 035 730 B
      Component: J412 8502
      Revision: 00015000 Serial number: 0000B7A111672
      Coding: 0020221
      Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
      VCID: 2773349796F634C

      No fault code found.

      End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    2. Member Theresias's Avatar
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      08-15-2012 03:08 PM #2
      Uhh... a lot of if's there...

      #1 Neither functionality nor hardware are even close, not even considering the software at this point. The new BCMs have #46 integrated in #09 as well, so they do Comfort and Electronics now. In the end the functionality "may" be 30% similar but thats about it... Haven't seen anybody do that kind of swap nor would I even dream about doing this, not worth it considering the effort needed (compatibility with other modules aside)...
      #2 Different hardware and software, can be done but brings compatibility issues with other systems.
      #3 Don't even think about it. Assuming you get it working in general the incompatibility is hell and even then you may very well be at a loss when it comes to coding... An MK60EC1 will NOT work properly in your 2005 model, Ross-Tech will not provide any assistance when it comes to the coding for liability reasons.

      On a personal level, if you were my friend and doing this I'd take you out for a LOT of and make sure to get those ideas out of your head soon...

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      08-15-2012 04:12 PM #3
      You have right, the effort to make this is tooooooo big for me and when I look to the further problems with coding and compatibility I'm close to stop the work on it. But leaving the ABS module, what else modules can bring the incompatibility?

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