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    08-15-2012 09:20 AM #1
    I posted a thread about 2 weeks ago asking for help choosing between a Sienna and Odyssey. We went with the Odyssey and took delivery last week. It's a white EX-L with Rear Entertainment system to keep my litter amused during trips.

    Here it is in all it's glory.


    Some highs and lows

    Highs
    -The engine is fantastic. Inaudible during low to mid throttle. Growls really nicely during WOT. Smooth revs freely and the cylinder deactivation ECO mode works well. We saw an average of 8l/100km ( 29 mpg ) during our first tank of gas! Silky smooth torque all the way to redline.

    -Interior toys. Well thought out entertainment system for the kids. Wireless headphones are of dubious quality. The center stack and screens are easy to use with the iDrive like pointing device. Power sliding doors and hatch are gold. Especially if your wife is short.

    ( not my photo )


    -Space is abundant obviously and the reconfigurability of the seats is fantastic. The "magic" seats are very easy to flip down/up. The second row comes in/out easily as well but is on the heavy side.

    -Feedback / Driving - This thing doesn't handle like the minivans I have driven in the past. You know it's big and heavy, but the suspension doesn't permit any sort of wallowing and feels fairly tight. Steering is light but communicates fairly well.

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    -Assembly Quality. The rear fender liner was missing 3 screw that held the bumper on.
    -Paint. Hard to see from the photos, but the front and rear bumper are slightly more yellow than the paint on the sheet metal. This is a common issue with the colour on Odyssey's apparently. Not impressed Honda.

    Now I have previously been rather derogatory when it came to minivans... I need to take that back because hauling around my three boys in this thing is worlds better than the CR-V. No more fighting in the car. No one can touch, poke or otherwise upset anyone else. They watch a movie with wireless headphones and I get to listen to whatever I want. We drove to our cottage 2 hours away over the weekend without a single crying/whining incident the whole way.

    For that reason alone I am a minivan convert. I love this thing.
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    08-15-2012 09:23 AM #2
    It's true, minivans still have their place in the world.

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    08-15-2012 09:24 AM #3

    I swear the Odyssey has almost-car-like visual proportions and it often looks like a hatchback scaled up to 140% - even moreso when you're driving with all the windows down.

    We drove to our cottage 2 hours away over the weekend without a single crying/whining incident the whole way.
    priceless. you win!
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    08-15-2012 09:27 AM #4
    I love my 2009 Odyssey EX-L. It does everything we need it to do passenger- and cargo-wise.

    I've always said, if you need a box, buy a box.

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    08-15-2012 09:30 AM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by digraph View Post

    I swear the Odyssey has almost-car-like visual proportions and it often looks like a hatchback scaled up to 140% - even moreso when you're driving with all the windows down.priceless. you win!
    Except from the back. That's one big booty.


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    08-15-2012 09:32 AM #6
    Nothing can beat the utility it provides. My brother has an 08 Odyssey EX and my brother in-law has a 2010 Caravan (not sure the model but it's pretty loaded). I just cannot get over the proportions and the overall feel while driving; but I'm so used to my GLI.

    I already told the wife I am not getting a van. She can have her SUV and I'll jump right into a wagon. Worked fine for my family when we were kids and I love the styling of wagons so much more.

    And this is not a "I'm a man and could never turn in my card for a mini-van" statement, it's purely my own taste that I like wagons more.
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    08-15-2012 09:32 AM #7
    Your driveway either makes the most sense of any I have ever seen, or it is the most ridiculous. I can't decide.
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    08-15-2012 09:35 AM #8
    When we had a minivan I had no shame hooning it.






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    08-15-2012 09:37 AM #9
    Quiet, commanding view/seating position, relatively powerful engines.

    99% of my friends from Europe that come here are not looking to hop back into a euro wagon or hatch

    It's minivan, yes.


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    08-15-2012 09:42 AM #10
    LOL at reverse minivan donuts!

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    08-15-2012 09:42 AM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
    Your driveway either makes the most sense of any I have ever seen, or it is the most ridiculous. I can't decide.
    Can you explain? It looks like a regular two car driveway.

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    08-15-2012 09:46 AM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
    Your driveway either makes the most sense of any I have ever seen, or it is the most ridiculous. I can't decide.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smigelski View Post
    Can you explain? It looks like a regular two car driveway.
    Probably because he has a great family hauler that can also double as a cargo mover as well as a fun weekend, daily blaster that can trudge through the snow, rain, etc. with ease. Seems like a win win in my book.

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    08-15-2012 09:47 AM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Smigelski View Post
    Can you explain? It looks like a regular two car driveway.
    He's referring to the combination of a minivan and an STI.

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    08-15-2012 09:51 AM #14
    I've become an unabashed fan of minivans in the last few years. I'd happily own one.

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    08-15-2012 09:52 AM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by clutchrider View Post
    Probably because he has a great family hauler that can also double as a cargo mover as well as a fun weekend, daily blaster that can trudge through the snow, rain, etc. with ease. Seems like a win win in my book.
    Exactly why we have them.

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    08-15-2012 09:52 AM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by clutchrider View Post
    Probably because he has a great family hauler that can also double as a cargo mover as well as a fun weekend, daily blaster that can trudge through the snow, rain, etc. with ease. Seems like a win win in my book.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
    He's referring to the combination of a minivan and an STI.
    I see. And here I am examining the asphalt driveway.

    I agree that for a family, that stable of cars is a great combination.

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    08-15-2012 09:54 AM #17
    Yeah, that is what I meant...pretty awesome opposite spectrums going there.

    The Ody needs a bumper sticker that says "My other car is an STi so STFU"
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    08-15-2012 10:04 AM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Smigelski View Post
    I see. And here I am examining the asphalt driveway.
    Actually I stared at it too for a bit because I am jealous of how clean and new it looks. Mine is loaded with cracks and today I'm actually venturing to the depot to get a big 5 gallon pail of crack filler to plaster it with. Then I'll do the tar coat.

  19. 08-15-2012 10:10 AM #19
    Nice. I feel the same way about minivans and my litter. Unfortunately I have a Sienna that I hate - your post made me jealous about the Odyssey. The grass is always greener I suppose.

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    08-15-2012 10:15 AM #20
    I always used to like driving my girlfriend's (now my wife) mom's Caravan. Big, floaty, comfy... could fit tons of ish in the back. It was that nutty purple color too. I'm man enough to drive that.

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    08-15-2012 10:18 AM #21
    Minivans are under appreciated vehicles. They provide a ridiculous amount of utlity for your dollar. And in recent years they have become much more bearable to drive.

    My parents used to have a 94 Caravan with red cloth interior. Man I miss that thing, because it was seriously a comfortable car to drive, even if it was crude at times.
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    08-15-2012 10:31 AM #22
    Congrats. Of all the mini vans in the world, Honda Odyssey's always seem the most appealing. Numerous friends have had older version. Oh and make sure you keep up on waxing and taking care of that paint if it's anything like Honda's white paint of the past. It will turn to chalk in a few years
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    08-15-2012 10:38 AM #23
    My parents' old '94 Caravan became the DDmobile for us in college. My parents didn't care if we beat the hell out of it, anybody could drive it, and it was comfortable for 6-7 people (sometimes more ) and borderline reliable. Perfect combination.

    We still borrow my buddy's mom's 2000ish Grand Caravan for booze festivals and the like.
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    08-15-2012 10:52 AM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by SnowGTI2003 View Post
    We saw an average of 8l/100km ( 29 mpg ) during our first tank of gas!
    Pure highway driving?

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    I have driven some of the older Honda's and was impressed with them. I had the most fun driving the newer Dodge Grand Caravans with the manual shift option. Still remember when I was younger and my friend would borrow a Ford Windstar because it had a handbrake...
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    08-15-2012 11:00 AM #26
    oh yeah I know what you mean I wouldnt have been caught dead in minivan. I bought an 07 caravan a couple of years ago and I love it. My Inlaws bought an Oddesey just like yours a few weeks ago too.
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  27. 08-15-2012 11:04 AM #27
    you've discovered the practicality and real value of a product that 90% of SUV driving parents are ignoring or missing. good on you!

    my FIL has one of these as well. pretty solid rig for hauling the kiddlets around town, home depot runs and vacation trips. A bit tight in the passenger seat leg room for me though. he also had some issues with a front suspension knock/creak that has finally been fixed after 6 months of Honda trying different things.

  28. 08-15-2012 11:06 AM #28
    I go you beat. We rented a Sienna minivan ON MY BACHELOR PARTY in Cabo San Lucas- and I loved it.

    Damn thing swallowed 6 drunken knuckleheads with surfboards amazingly well.
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    08-15-2012 11:16 AM #29
    if we had gone with 3 kids -> then minivan all the way but i refuse so snip snip. growing up we had minivans for most of our child life (talking 1st gen dodge, wood panels) that thing got some use and then some.
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    08-15-2012 11:18 AM #30
    Crossovers were created because people who buy them grew up in minivans and don't want to be associated with the ''soccer mom'' stigma. As soon as people realize crossovers are pretty much soccer mom material as well, they'll return to minivans as they are way more practical.

    I have said it a million times before but the first manufacturer to come up with a ''crossover-ized'' or Outback-like minivan with AWD, modest lift and body cladding will hit a home-run.

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    08-15-2012 11:43 AM #31
    So you're loving a brand new car? Shocking! I love driving the POS cars that I sometimes get as rentals--at first. And then by the end of the weekend, I can't stand them.


    Update this thread in 8 months time once you've gotten used to it a little more!

    FWIW, congrats on the new purchase, the Odyssey is a pretty sharp looking. It's nice to see that modern minivans have a bit more styling flair than they used to.

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    08-15-2012 11:57 AM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by 1Point8TDan View Post
    Pure highway driving?
    80 % highway / 20% city

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    08-15-2012 12:03 PM #33
    I personally wouldn't be caught w/o owning a minivan at this stage in my life...although 4 kids has something to do with that. There simply is no better way to move people and stuff in an urban environment.

    I'm in the process of selling my '09 Ody EX-L to upgrade to a '12 EX-L, there are just enough convincing elements on the new ones to make the jump.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bakounine View Post
    I have said it a million times before but the first manufacturer to come up with a ''crossover-ized'' or Outback-like minivan with AWD, modest lift and body cladding will hit a home-run.
    Add a small diesel to that mix and call it a day! ...although the 7/8 seat AWD van has been offered in the past so they won't be first.





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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowGTI2003 View Post

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    -Assembly Quality. The rear fender liner was missing 3 screw that held the bumper on.
    -Paint. Hard to see from the photos, but the front and rear bumper are slightly more yellow than the paint on the sheet metal. This is a common issue with the colour on Odyssey's apparently. Not impressed Honda.
    - I picked up a new touring elite 3 weeks ago in white pearl and noticed the same issue. Paint color on the plastic parts is different than sheet metal. Bugs the hell out of me. I guess the body is painted on a different line or with a different process than the bolt on plastics.

    I have the 6 speed auto and notice a slight surge when coming out of ECO mode at lower speeds from time to time.

    Otherwise, love the van! (Check out odyclub forums for tips/TSBs/etc if you haven't already)

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    08-15-2012 12:17 PM #35
    minivans are so useful.... even for me right now at age 24. i always take my moms minivan whenever all of our friends decide to go on vacation somewhere far away. I take 6 in the car with me, and the whole way down its just non stop laughter having a great time as well! its so good!

    plus the amount of storage we get... Routans can store a lot in the trunk, and the pockets in front of passengers seats. i remember driving down from pittsburgh to DC with 10 people in the van, filled with EVERYTHING you can think of.

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