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      08-15-2012 09:07 PM #101
      Quote Originally Posted by 4motionvr6dub View Post
      R32 for practicality, low end torque, amazing sound, much better interior, AWD(it rains in the summer) better DD.

      S2K would be a better car for the track but that's about it

      Yes. This guy has it all figured out.

      S2000 is only better on the track. It's official now in case anyone was wondering.
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      08-15-2012 09:08 PM #102
      R32 feels like a solid car. S2000 feels like a death trap. Plus the majority of them have been riced out or salvaged.

    3. 08-15-2012 09:13 PM #103
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      08-15-2012 09:14 PM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by unintended acceleration View Post
      Yes. This guy has it all figured out.

      S2000 is only better on the track. It's official now in case anyone was wondering.

      I wouldn't even say better at the track. Different? Yes.. Better? No.

      Now if we are talking a beach cruiser? Yea S2000 no problem..


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      08-15-2012 09:17 PM #105
      Quote Originally Posted by mert mert View Post
      Not even apples vs oranges who wants a city golf nothing special about a cheaper Haldex AWD system city Golf
      Wat?

      3.2L VR6 -> 240 hp as opposed to a 2.0L 8v -> 115 hp.
      Ridiculous engine note. Recaro seats. My god, not a city Golf.
      Cheaper Haldex AWD? Cheaper than what? It worked fine, and as far as I know, it has less problems than Subaru's, albeit not as good of a system.

      I'd go for the R32, but the S2000 is a close 2nd. Really, depends on the day. On a Friday, I'd probably say S2000, but this is Wednesday.
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      08-15-2012 09:29 PM #106
      Did you really just say 2.8 VR6?


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      08-15-2012 09:32 PM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Did you really just say 2.8 VR6?


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      08-15-2012 09:34 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Did you really just say 2.8 VR6?


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      ...yes I did.

      I think the appropriate words are...woops??

      (quickly corrects post to 3.2)
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    9. 08-15-2012 09:39 PM #109
      Wai noe pole doe?

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      08-15-2012 09:40 PM #110
      S2000.
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      08-15-2012 09:42 PM #111
      R32 all the way

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      08-15-2012 09:52 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm0075 View Post
      I drove my R for the first time in a year, and besides the exhaust note, I just felt meh about it.

      I won't deny the R32 can be beat for driving dynamics. A Miata will put a smile on even a non car persons face.

      That being said- an R32 is best driven in anger. Accel hard enough to need the awd, feel the TQ, rev it out, hear it sing. Throw it into the turns, turning the wonderful steering wheel, held in by the seats bolsters.. then slam on the powerful brakes.







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      08-15-2012 09:55 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by worth_fixing View Post

      I think the appropriate words are...woops??


      Not Recaros either....




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    14. 08-15-2012 10:03 PM #114
      S2000 because they can go 200,000 miles before the tiniest thing has to be replaced.

      Take the MK4 and by that mileage you will have replaced the entire car

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      08-15-2012 10:11 PM #115
      Hardly... I've got a 24v VR6 in my driveway that is just under 200,000.. only thing to fail? Water pump had a slow drip at around 140k.




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      08-15-2012 10:13 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Not Recaros either....




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      Well crap. I guess my post has a little less significance than I initially thought it would.

      We'll leave it as nice sports seats.
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      08-15-2012 10:16 PM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      I won't deny the R32 can be beat for driving dynamics. A Miata will put a smile on even a non car persons face.

      That being said- an R32 is best driven in anger. Accel hard enough to need the awd, feel the TQ, rev it out, hear it sing. Throw it into the turns, turning the wonderful steering wheel, held in by the seats bolsters.. then slam on the powerful brakes.







      - Josh
      I don't drive a car to toodle around town
      The R just felt old. It felt heavy. It just didn't tug at the heart strings like it once did. I know there are many people, like yourself, who hold the R in high regard, and its a good car, for the most part, but I think it's age is starting to show. Parts aren't cheap and as the car ages, they are starting to need to be replaced more frequently. As I said, I think I've outgrown the car and I think someone who's always wanted one will enjoy it more than me
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      08-15-2012 10:33 PM #118
      Nothing wrong with that. I drive my Phaeton more than my R.

      I plan to drive my new motorcycle more than both.


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      08-15-2012 11:04 PM #119
      I had to make this decision in 2004. I chose the R32, I would make the same decision again. I have always wanted to own an S2000 but I've never quite been able to pull the trigger. Purchasing the R32 was easy. It's good looking, rare, fun to drive, has a great motor, great exhaust note, and is practical to boot.

    20. 08-15-2012 11:04 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by worth_fixing View Post
      Wat?

      3.2L VR6 -> 240 hp as opposed to a 2.0L 8v -> 115 hp.
      Ridiculous engine note. Recaro seats. My god, not a city Golf.
      Cheaper Haldex AWD? Cheaper than what? It worked fine, and as far as I know, it has less problems than Subaru's, albeit not as good of a system.

      I'd go for the R32, but the S2000 is a close 2nd. Really, depends on the day. On a Friday, I'd probably say S2000, but this is Wednesday.

      Mmmmmmm.... Because of it's FWD biased nature, it has less drivetrain loss in good-traction situations. Like on the highway. Which is why it'll be faster up top than a comparably powered Mitsu or Subie.
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      08-16-2012 12:56 AM #121
      R32 was basically my dream car as a young dubber when it was first released. Probably would have made fun of the S2000s torque back then. Fast forward some years, and I voted with my wallet (and in the poll), S2K all the way. Does just fine as a daily or weekend car, and produces drives that are easily the most fun I've ever had on 4 wheels.

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      08-16-2012 02:12 AM #122
      S2000. Besides my sister already has a golf. And to top that off, I really don't have a problem with the practicality of the car. It's rare that I need all the space, and my previous car was a Toyota Matrix. Unless you are moving or traveling, how much space does a couple need? For a weekend getaway/date car it's perfect.

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      08-16-2012 05:57 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by Shmi View Post
      I picked R32 because I don't fit in an S2000.
      Same here. I love my R32!

    24. 08-16-2012 06:19 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by unintended acceleration View Post
      I'm not going to vote because I drive an S2000 and it's a silly poll.


      1 - As a daily driver, it depends on what your commute is like. If it consists of a lot of stop and go traffic, and you live in a city with dense traffic, in a hot climate the S2000 will suck. It is a car that needs an open road, or some semblance of a nice drive. To be honest, it should be a crime to drive an S2000 like this. It is painfully obvious it was not designed for this.

      2 - If it's 100 outside, the A/C is on and you are sitting in traffic. The S2000 is the wrong car to be in. You will hate it. It sucks. This is the only time the car feels like it lacks low end grunt. Engine gets heatsoaked and below 2.5 RPM, it is awful.
      Awesome post. I can tell you have owned it through a few hot summers. Spot on with the comments.

      Personally, I sacrifice the 99% of crappy traffic bumpy city driving for the 1% of open road twisties on the weekend.

      Also, having a smaller trunk will help you save money by not buying unnecessary crap at stores all the time. S2000 will also help you stay on a diet because if you put a few pounds on, the cockpit starts to close in on you.

    25. 08-16-2012 06:23 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by I_like_waffles View Post
      S2000 because they can go 200,000 miles before the tiniest thing has to be replaced.

      Take the MK4 and by that mileage you will have replaced the entire car
      The AP1 models chew up the retainers.

      AP1 and AP2 have self eating convertable tops.

      Both models have issues with rear bearings wearing out.

      AP1 sucks oil and crunches gears.

      I won't say "made of glass", but the AP1 didn't have the beefiest drivetrain. The clutch sucks on both models.

      S2000 is not a 1995 Civic DX that will "run forever". It was produced on a small scale and it has some flaws.

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