3.2L VR6 -> 240 hp as opposed to a 2.0L 8v -> 115 hp.
Ridiculous engine note. Recaro seats. My god, not a city Golf.
Cheaper Haldex AWD? Cheaper than what? It worked fine, and as far as I know, it has less problems than Subaru's, albeit not as good of a system.
I'd go for the R32, but the S2000 is a close 2nd. Really, depends on the day. On a Friday, I'd probably say S2000, but this is Wednesday.
Last edited by worth_fixing; 08-15-2012 at 09:33 PM.
Did you really just say 2.8 VR6?
I won't deny the R32 can be beat for driving dynamics. A Miata will put a smile on even a non car persons face.
That being said- an R32 is best driven in anger. Accel hard enough to need the awd, feel the TQ, rev it out, hear it sing. Throw it into the turns, turning the wonderful steering wheel, held in by the seats bolsters.. then slam on the powerful brakes.
Hardly... I've got a 24v VR6 in my driveway that is just under 200,000.. only thing to fail? Water pump had a slow drip at around 140k.
The R just felt old. It felt heavy. It just didn't tug at the heart strings like it once did. I know there are many people, like yourself, who hold the R in high regard, and its a good car, for the most part, but I think it's age is starting to show. Parts aren't cheap and as the car ages, they are starting to need to be replaced more frequently. As I said, I think I've outgrown the car and I think someone who's always wanted one will enjoy it more than me
CTS-V 1st dyno: 461/472
CTS-V 2nd dyno: 500/501
CTS-V 3rd dyno: 521/510
CTS-V 4th dyno: 529/521
Nothing wrong with that. I drive my Phaeton more than my R.
I plan to drive my new motorcycle more than both.
I had to make this decision in 2004. I chose the R32, I would make the same decision again. I have always wanted to own an S2000 but I've never quite been able to pull the trigger. Purchasing the R32 was easy. It's good looking, rare, fun to drive, has a great motor, great exhaust note, and is practical to boot.
I'm really just here for the pancakes.
I'm Sorry Hachi... I love you.
R32 was basically my dream car as a young dubber when it was first released. Probably would have made fun of the S2000s torque back then. Fast forward some years, and I voted with my wallet (and in the poll), S2K all the way. Does just fine as a daily or weekend car, and produces drives that are easily the most fun I've ever had on 4 wheels.
S2000. Besides my sister already has a golf. And to top that off, I really don't have a problem with the practicality of the car. It's rare that I need all the space, and my previous car was a Toyota Matrix. Unless you are moving or traveling, how much space does a couple need? For a weekend getaway/date car it's perfect.
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Last edited by Ark6; 08-16-2012 at 02:22 AM.
Personally, I sacrifice the 99% of crappy traffic bumpy city driving for the 1% of open road twisties on the weekend.
Also, having a smaller trunk will help you save money by not buying unnecessary crap at stores all the time. S2000 will also help you stay on a diet because if you put a few pounds on, the cockpit starts to close in on you.
AP1 and AP2 have self eating convertable tops.
Both models have issues with rear bearings wearing out.
AP1 sucks oil and crunches gears.
I won't say "made of glass", but the AP1 didn't have the beefiest drivetrain. The clutch sucks on both models.
S2000 is not a 1995 Civic DX that will "run forever". It was produced on a small scale and it has some flaws.