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FLY NAVY
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Do not be persecuted by the pompous fedora, balanced by the equilibrium, fortified by the
government's inability to eradicate, or foreshadow—taken from the Hebrew word: foreskin
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Wait seriously. 5 years?
The person who drunkenly killed my friend got 2 years. I also seem to recall many people getting lighter sentences who forcefully raped nonconsenting victims.
How can a sexual act between consenting adults have any jail time associated with it? I thought this was a free country.
She deserved to lose her job now her kids have no mom.
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Multiple counts can stack up. It isn't the act of sex itself that's the law broken and charged for, it's the act + surrounding circumstances. This time it's reasonable to assume the dudes were all willing and she didn't abuse authority snookering them. But if you let this one slide, how about the next one, where the student in question might have been more pliable and resistant at first, but the teacher made implied consequences (coming from an authority figure) if she didn't get banged? Would that still be consenting adults?
As for her kids having no mom now, well... slut should have thought about them first, before chasing her own pleasure. I thought it was supposed to be just guys who were selfish whorebags?![]()
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No, the law doesn't work that way. You get punished for what you've done, not what they think you might do .
Surrounding circumstances are worth considering when there was a real crime committed. These guys were all 18. I find it really hard to care about anything else. 5 years? Absurd.
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Apparently in Texas it's a second degree felony for teachers to have sex with students, regardless of whether or not the students are consenting adults. So she in fact got punished for what she'd done, even if harmless in itself, because the law was designed to prevent people from doing bad things to good people.
It took jurors less than an hour to find her guilty earlier in the day of 16 counts of having an inappropriate relationship between a student and teacher. The second-degree felony is punishable by two to 20 years in prison per count.
Do not be persecuted by the pompous fedora, balanced by the equilibrium, fortified by the
government's inability to eradicate, or foreshadow—taken from the Hebrew word: foreskin
#118
Wasn't referring to what they think she might have gone on to do. I'm talking about a hypothetical second case, involving different people. If they have already established a mindset that eighteen year old boys are consenting adults and they aren't going to bother prosecuting, then you have the wide open opportunity for people who really were coerced to slip through the cracks.
"Abuse of power" and "inappropriate conduct" laws aren't stupid; they are something that *needs* to be around. Sometimes you'll disagree with their application, as in this instance. Other times, they may be the only way someone who genuinely did something reprehensible gets punished for it.
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Does this apply to college professors as well, or just HS teachers?
Yes, but if you're an adult, that is over 18 and not mentally or physically handicapped, and you are coerced into having sex w/ someone, that's a form of sexual harassment. And yes, those kinds of laws do need to be in place. But there should be a standard of conduct that has to be met. The simple act of sex between consenting adults is not enough to meet the test of 'abuse of power' or 'inappropriate conduct'. None of the parties involved filed a complaint, or claimed that they were coerced. Would this have even made the news if it was the 18 y/o receptionist boning her 27 y/o boss? Or the 18 y/o mail clerk boning the 27 y/o office manager? Of course it wouldn't
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Yes. What I haven't found yet is if there absolutely has to be a direct link between the educator and the student. Even at the college level, there should not be a relationship between educator and student, especially when the educator can have an influence on the academic success of the student.
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So let's say you have this 32 y/o college professor that's having consensual sex w/ their 30 y/o student, you're telling me that's a Class 2 felony? Really? Is it different if the student is 25 y/o? 20 y/o? 18 y/o? What if the professor is only 25, does that make it different?
This whole thing is so absurdly stupid it's not funny. At 18, all of those boys could have decided to enlist in the military, and have been sent into a conflict, and been killed, but they're not allowed to decide they want to bang their HS English teacher? Either you're an adult when you reach 18, and can make your own decisions (and suffer the consequences), or you're not. What happens between consenting adults is their business. I hope this gets appealed, and this BS law gets tossed. Texas,![]()
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And if, as a result of their funtime, the student passes a class they should have otherwise failed? Just as an instance of preferential treatment. The thing that makes this a felony is that it is a figure of authority having relations with someone under that authority. If your professor and student had their little fling once the student was no longer enrolled in a class taught by the professor, nobody would care.
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In AZ, a college professor has to disclose any relationship with a student so that it can be evaluated.
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I wonder if teachers in the 90s and 80s were like this too or if it's just a recent thing...
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That's what I'm thinking. I've tried to find out if Colleps was with her students or not. I'm thinking that even if they weren't her students, they pushed this thing through because of the gang bang and they were high school students. As far as college goes, I'd be pissed if another student got higher marks than I did, or got referrals, got an internship I didn't, and then found out the student was having sex with the professor. School is supposed to be a meritocracy. Some people here don't seem to care much about that.
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She's not bad at all.
I wish that had happened to me in high school!
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And what about the 'student' athletes that get passed through (see UNC grade thread)? And if it is strictly an authority thing, what about the workplace examples I gave? A supervisor has a lot more authority over someone that reports to them than a teacher, who has a student for one class. If the employee doesn't complain, nobody cares.
I don't believe that there is any requirement for someone over the age of 18 to attend HS. In fact, in many states, I believe the age is 16.
Again, this is a case of something that happened between consenting adults. There was no complaint or allegation of coercion by any of the parties involved.
As I said, I hope she has a good lawyer, and it gets appealed. It should get over-turned, and the law stricken from the books.
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Right.![]()
Sorry, but this teach wouldn't do it for me.
Not saying every girl I have hooked up with was a slammin' hotty, just saying I have (and I'm sure most of us have) done better than her.
On a more serious note about the story, the 5 years is ridiculous. I don't know how they even pulled that off.
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Brittni Nicole Colleps, Texas Teacher, Found Guilty After Group Sex With 5 Students:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1799799.html
Yeah...I'm sure the boys are scared for life.![]()
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Furthermore, she more than likely was aware of what she was doing. If you want to let the football team pull a train on you, you had better be aware of the consequences.
I don't agree with the law, but there are alot of laws that I don't agree with and still follow. Like not killing people.