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      08-17-2012 04:30 PM #1
      My stage 1 TT RS vs Acura rsx type-s with a full race turbo kit (57 trim turbo) and a semi-built motor?

    2. 08-17-2012 04:37 PM #2
      more importantly, who are the drivers ?

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    4. 08-17-2012 07:17 PM #4
      Great, one of these threads.

      I predict his second cousin with the Veyron will kill you both.
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      08-17-2012 08:49 PM #5
      Really? REALLY!

      Time for some facepalm. REALLY.
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      08-18-2012 09:52 AM #6
      Win what?
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    7. 08-18-2012 10:59 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
      Win what?
      Limbo contest.
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      08-18-2012 02:42 PM #9
      southpole12 -
      I realize we had fun at your expense. But I have to say, that is a question a 5th grader with Google could have solved for you, in about 2m. Have you really given this some thought?

      Come in out of the cold- we've all done dumb things, so don't feel special. But please, tell your friend in the RSX not to bother.

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      VTEC will kick in y0!

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      08-19-2012 09:52 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by One_Off_Volk View Post
      You haven't really driven a TT RS have you?
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      08-20-2012 11:32 AM #13
      LMAO! Funny responses but I just wanted some other opinions on who would win in a 1/4 mile RACE... I should have made that more clear but this being a car forum I thought that would have been implied. Anyway, I know the rsx can put down some good numbers in the quarter when built right but I still think the TT RS will take the win.

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      08-20-2012 01:35 PM #14
      With a sub 4.0s (and on mine somewhere well south of 3.6s) 0-60 time, I'd be interested to see what it would take to make an RSX pull that way all the way to the end of the quarter. HP is fun, but torque wins on a strip that short.
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      08-20-2012 03:36 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by InTTruder View Post
      With a sub 4.0s (and on mine somewhere well south of 3.6s) 0-60 time, I'd be interested to see what it would take to make an RSX pull that way all the way to the end of the quarter. HP is fun, but torque wins on a strip that short.
      Exactly!!! Well I will let you know when I get my car back lol

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      08-20-2012 05:56 PM #16
      Not to mention that FWD are automatically crippled a bit at the start due to weight transfer. I had an RSX-S and if you are concerned about it beating your TT RS he must have done a hellacious mod; it's an open diff for chrissake!

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      08-20-2012 08:43 PM #17
      only way an RSX is winning this one is with JATO rockets:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8



      In this case, please feel free to to him as he flies by... he wont be celebrating his win for long...


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      The Arizona Highway Patrol came upon a pile of smoldering metal embedded into the side of a cliff rising above the road at the apex of a curve. the wreckage resembled the site of an airplane crash, but it was a car. The type of car was unidentifiable at the scene. The lab finally figured out what it was and what had happened.

      It seems that a guy had somehow gotten hold of a JATO unit (Jet Assisted Take Off - actually a solid fuel rocket) that is used to give heavy military transport planes an extra 'push' for taking off from short airfields. He had driven his Chevy Impala out into the desert and found a long, straight stretch of road. Then he attached the JATO unit to his car, jumped in, got up some speed and fired off the JATO!

      The facts, as best could be determined, are that the operator of the 1967 Impala hit JATO ignition at a distance of approximately 3.0 miles from the crash site. This was established by the prominent scorched and melted asphalt at that location. The JATO, if operating properly, would have reached maximum thrust within five seconds, causing the Chevy to reach speeds well in excess of 350 MPH, continuing at full power for an additional 20-25 seconds. The driver, soon to be pilot, most likely would have experienced G-forces usually reserved for dog-fighting F-14 jocks under full afterburners, basically causing him to become insignificant for the remainder of the event. However, the automobile remained on the straight highway for about 2.5 miles (15-20 seconds) before the driver applied and completely melted the brakes, blowing the tires and leaving thick rubber marks on the road surface, then becoming airborne for an additional 1.4 miles and impacting the cliff face at a height of 125 feet, leaving a blackened crater 3 feet deep in the rock.
      Most of the driver's remains were not recoverable; however, small fragments of bone, teeth and hair were extracted from the crater, and fingernail and bone shards were removed from a piece of debris believed to be a portion of the steering wheel.


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      08-21-2012 08:33 AM #18
      Natural Selection at work above-


      The best POSTED times I've seen are:
      TOP SUPERCHARGED RSX’s on CLUB RSX


      01. OsideJim - 11.068 @ 131.84 (1.80 60 ft) (COMPTECH)
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      02. adm_rsx11.98 @ 115.4 1.7 60'(ROTREX)
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      Notice the mods. Even a stock TT RS is making low 12s in the quarter.

      And last- WHAT is the race? Sure, if you spent US$ equivalent to the difference in prices you'd get a faster RSX. you would NOT get a nicer RSX, not anything near what the TT RS has in quality and quantity. I encourage the RSX pilot (sic) to follow me along AMP's 16 turns and to keep up. On any given lap, any car can lead. But Truth in 24 is where I see 'performance'. The long haul matters.....
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      08-21-2012 08:52 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by InTTruder View Post
      Natural Selection at work above-


      The best POSTED times I've seen are:
      TOP SUPERCHARGED RSX’s on CLUB RSX


      01. OsideJim - 11.068 @ 131.84 (1.80 60 ft) (COMPTECH)
      -11psi CTSC, nitrous, Custom Race Header
      -M&H slicks, Quaife
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      02. adm_rsx11.98 @ 115.4 1.7 60'(ROTREX)
      Rotrex supercharged at 16 psi, Fusion ZRI's 235/45r17 @ 35-36psi, Obx LSD Competition clutch.


      Notice the mods. Even a stock TT RS is making low 12s in the quarter.

      And last- WHAT is the race? Sure, if you spent US$ equivalent to the difference in prices you'd get a faster RSX. you would NOT get a nicer RSX, not anything near what the TT RS has in quality and quantity. I encourage the RSX pilot (sic) to follow me along AMP's 16 turns and to keep up. On any given lap, any car can lead. But Truth in 24 is where I see 'performance'. The long haul matters.....
      I agree that it will never be anything like a TT RS and would have no chance in a road course. I just want to smoke it in the 1/4. I know the turbo rsx's can pull low 11 second times so it should be a good race. By the way what would you say a stasis stage 1 TT RS will run in the 1/4?

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      08-21-2012 10:03 AM #20
      I haven't driven a STaSIS TT RS, so can't really say. I don't even drag my car- I just run on road courses and local mountain roads when they're available.

      STaSIS indicates about 435 on the TQ number (Signature pacakge), so you'll get a better pull, but a bit less than the APR S2+RSC on mine (464 TQ). AWD (even Haldex) will whup the RSX unless it has LOTS of suspension fabrication and setup. Again, what is the marginal cost of making a bean (the RSX) beat a WMD (the TT RS) on approach to serious speeds?

      Here are other comparisons:
      Typ 8J Audi TT RS Tuning Comparison Tables

      TT RS 2.5 TFSI


      Max Power Max Torque
      Tuner hp kW PS @ rpm ft-lbf Nm @ rpm
      Factory 335 250 340 5400-6500 332 450 1600-5300
      1 ABT tuning1 414 309 420 5800 420 570 2600-5000
      2 Revo tuning 410 306 416 NA 403 546 NA
      3 B&B tuning 404 301 409 NA 413 560 2450
      4 Superchips tuning 401 299 407 5650 406 551 3599
      5 MTM tuning 397 296 402 6500 406 550 4800
      6 Sportec tuning 394 294 400 5800 406 550 2650
      7 Competence tuning 384 286 389 NA 383 520 1600
      8 mcchip-dkr tuning 375 279 380 NA 406 550 NA
      9 SKN tuning 370 276 375 NA 380 515 NA
      10 Pogea tuning 367 274 372 NA 383 519 NA
      11 BSR tuning 365 272 370 NA 373 506 NA
      1ABT Stage 1 tuning including effects of an intercooler


      Since the bone-stock TT RS is getting 12.1s, I "opine" that any S1 will get below 12s readily, as long as you do your job. YMMV.
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      08-21-2012 10:12 AM #21
      Thanks for the quick feedback!! LMAO RSX=Bean

    22. 08-21-2012 02:37 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by InTTruder View Post

      Since the bone-stock TT RS is getting 12.1s, I "opine" that any S1 will get below 12s readily, as long as you do your job. YMMV.
      I've seen stock quoted as 12.6 and the stage3 car just pulled a low 11 with >500hp so I think low 12s for a stage1/2 RS.

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      08-21-2012 03:30 PM #23
      Hi John- What do you think 430HP/464TQ can pull! (southern answer- stumps?!)

      Atmosphere matters. Doing this in late October at Seattle is WAY better than fdoing it in late July in Denver! MT was the source of the 12.1s I used IIRC.
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    24. 08-21-2012 04:20 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by InTTruder View Post
      Hi John- What do you think 430HP/464TQ can pull! (southern answer- stumps?!)

      Atmosphere matters. Doing this in late October at Seattle is WAY better than fdoing it in late July in Denver! MT was the source of the 12.1s I used IIRC.
      Wow, had not seen the 12.1 in MT, that's very fast for stock.

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      08-21-2012 07:48 PM #25
      InTTruder, is that table the Euro spec motor? I thought the US spec was 360 hp/343 ft-lbs; your table has 334 hp/332 ft-lbs. Just curious.

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