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    Thread: Sottisha's APR Stage 3 CSG Golf R.....Pic, vid, & Info Thread

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      08-20-2012 11:43 AM #1
      I'm going to be sharing as much as possible, so I'll use this thread to do so.

      I picked up the car from APR on Friday. Left about noon and got back to Orlando by 7:30pm.
      Pretty much did no more than 10mph over the entire 466 mile drive. Georgia cops are ridiculous.
      60 miles of I-75 in Georgia, we saw 17 cops looking for speeders. Then we hit the Florida border and drove exactly 80 miles before we saw the first speed trap.
      I've been to APR twice, prior to this trip and got pulled over in Georgia both times, on way home. I vowed not to get pulled over again. I was lasered a few times, but not pulled over.

      At this time, I can not post any dyno #'s or anything too specific. Arin will be releasing all the info within a few weeks, from what I understand. Car is fast and I'm sure will be made faster as I go. Once APR is done pushing a few of their Golf R blocks to the limit, they will be releasing a head upgrade for our cars. Software to go along with it. I'll likely do that and call it a day, as I'm not really wanting to go Stage 4......But who knows.

      You may notice that I no longer have Forge's Twintercooler on....Well, As I'm sure APR will soon show/share, the APR intercooler performed better. To be fair, the data logging shows the Forge to be a decent intercooler and absolutely performed better than the stock set-up, but as you go through all the logs, each time the rpms went up, the temp curve rose higher than the same curve using the APR intercooler. The APR recovered a tad faster as well. Personally, I would not tell anyone to go with one over the other, but the data did show the APR set-up to be more efficient.


      Anyways,
      Today, I took the car to my exhaust guy and had him remove the catalytic converter. While under the car, I said, "hey, let's just remove this entire section"....That being the cat and first muffler/resonator.
      The APR/RSC exhaust is amazing in that it's able to really be a Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde system.
      While cruising home, I think the soundakator on a stock R would create more drone than APR's exhaust. Under WOT it's like all hell is breaking loose, but not in an obnoxious way. Just a ton of air being sucked in and forced out with a vengeance.
      That being said, I'm one of the those that wanted a little more noise all around.

      Well, the little high-flow cat and pre-silencer sure do a lot, cause now my car is way louder under WOT......So much so, that I may have the pre-silencer re-installed...I'm going to enjoy the extra noise for now though.

      I had an employee use my BlackBerry to make a quick video. I didn't and have not launched the car hard, as you'll notice, but you'll get a sense for how it sounds......I think Toeball will appreciate the turbo spool now noticeable through the exhaust.

      I will get my Gopro Hero out soon and take some better video. In car, outside, etc....



      Pictures:













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      08-20-2012 11:51 AM #2
      wow - sweet ride - this gunna be good..

    3. 08-20-2012 11:59 AM #3
      Very nice , that sounds amazing!

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      08-20-2012 12:12 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by scottisha View Post
      You may notice that I no longer have Forge's Twintercooler on....Well, As I'm sure APR will soon show/share, the APR intercooler performed better. To be fair, the data logging shows the Forge to be a decent intercooler and absolutely performed better than the stock set-up, but as you go through all the logs, each time the rpms went up, the temp curve rose higher than the same curve using the APR intercooler. The APR recovered a tad faster as well. Personally, I would not tell anyone to go with one over the other, but the data did show the APR set-up to be more efficient.

      Pictures:

      I can't say I'm surprised. With the Forge unit you are putting a heat exchanger in front of another heat exchanger. The first unit gets plenty of ambient air but the stock core is now getting air that will always be hotter than ambient from the heat it removed passing over the first core. Glad to hear someone confirmed those results. Do you know if that will be shared?


      With that intake, how's the clearance? Any potential issues with rubbing?


      I'll be following your build as I've already got my eye on stg3 but will be waiting until spring/summer 2013 to go down that road. Thanks for sharing!

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      08-20-2012 12:18 PM #5
      Nice...I am sitting on the fence on the exhaust.....was gonna wait until the spring but getting the itch now...also I lover the sound but I think for me with the resonator and the cat in it will be exactly what I would want.....

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      08-20-2012 12:30 PM #6
      Do you know what engine component was exactly changed for your stage 3 kit?

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      08-20-2012 01:46 PM #7
      Not sure about rubbing issues. Intake hardware is same as European R, so i think any issues would have presented themselves already.

      Not sure if any engine components were changed. Pretty sure we're getting a brand new down pipe design though.

      @geist296, you'll probably lve the APR exhaust, as they sell it. Mine is definitely louder now, but was pretty sweet before I started hacking stuff off.

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      08-20-2012 02:24 PM #8
      Nice USP sticker

      When I drive back down from upstate new york end of October I might have to swing over to orlando and check out your stage 3 and hear your exhaust in person. I love my APR TBE but I wouldn't mind it being a tad louder.

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      08-20-2012 03:31 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by scottisha View Post
      Not sure about rubbing issues. Intake hardware is same as European R, so i think any issues would have presented themselves already.
      You'd think so. If you get a chance take a look and let me know. All these VWR issues, or not issues, are freaking me out a bit.

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      08-20-2012 03:37 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by webcrawlr View Post
      You'd think so. If you get a chance take a look and let me know. All these VWR issues, or not issues, are freaking me out a bit.
      pretty sure that intake will only work with stage 3 because of the size of it
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      08-20-2012 04:07 PM #12
      looking good man. Love that exhaust after you changed it a bit.
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      08-20-2012 04:41 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Dutchmastr9 View Post
      pretty sure that intake will only work with stage 3 because of the size of it

      APR uses the carbonio for their stage 3 kits. Something could probably be rigged up to use another intake, but I don't see the need. My old Stage 3 used the stock air box.

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      08-20-2012 04:48 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Dutchmastr9 View Post
      pretty sure that intake will only work with stage 3 because of the size of it
      Roger that. I'm just curious as I've been playing around with the stage3 idea for a while now.

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      08-20-2012 05:13 PM #15
      Nice setup

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      08-20-2012 05:19 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by SOFLA View Post
      Nice USP sticker

      When I drive back down from upstate new york end of October I might have to swing over to orlando and check out your stage 3 and hear your exhaust in person. I love my APR TBE but I wouldn't mind it being a tad louder.
      Yeah, I had USP install the Intake and HPFP when I went to Stage 1+. They also did the downpipe, intake and software on the 2012 GLI I had for a short period.

      Those guys are pretty squared away. Would definitely use them again for anything.
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    17. 08-20-2012 05:20 PM #17
      yyyayyyyyyy budddddyyyyyyyyyy.... now give me my car back

      Sick stuff

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      08-20-2012 05:22 PM #18
      Sounds pretty gnarly. I like it, but that is loud. Look out for pissy cops...

      Definately following this.

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      08-20-2012 05:43 PM #19
      Thanks Scott....

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      08-20-2012 07:24 PM #20
      Can you talk about spool at all? If so what's it like compared to the stock snail?

      Does the intake sound like a large vacuum cleaner?

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      08-20-2012 11:48 PM #22
      What turbo has been selected for this kit?

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      08-21-2012 10:27 PM #23
      AWESOME!!!! Can't wait to see it, but on the road with various projects.

      Enjoy it.

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      08-21-2012 10:35 PM #24
      That exhaust sounds brutal!!!

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      08-21-2012 10:55 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by webcrawlr View Post
      Can you talk about spool at all? If so what's it like compared to the stock snail?

      Does the intake sound like a large vacuum cleaner?
      Been trying to watch boost gauge and RPM's at same time. Seems like I'm hitting 25 psi right at or before 3400 rpms.

      Arin mentioned, in the Max R thread, they were going to use the GTX28RS turbo.

      That's what's in my car and in Max R.

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