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    Thread: Dress Shoes- looking for something new.

    1. 08-20-2012 04:24 PM #1
      Does anyone have suggestions on nicer dress shoes? I'm liking me some Church's. If they're good enough for James Bond, etc, etc.

    2. 08-21-2012 06:03 PM #2
      Church's are pretty outstanding. Crockett & Jones and Carmina are also very good, in that same price range. John Lobb, Edward Green, in the next bracket up. Alden and Allen Edmonds in the next price range down.

      What kind of dress shoe are you looking for?

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      09-14-2012 08:37 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by osiris View Post
      Church's are pretty outstanding. Crockett & Jones and Carmina are also very good, in that same price range. John Lobb, Edward Green, in the next bracket up. Alden and Allen Edmonds in the next price range down.

      What kind of dress shoe are you looking for?
      This is a good start.
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    4. 09-14-2012 04:56 PM #4
      I own two pairs of Allen Edmonds and have been very happy with them. I have a pair of bit loafers (Verona) and Wingtips (Chesters). The build quality for the cost is excellent. Getting ready to send the Chesters in to be recrafted.

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      09-21-2012 07:01 PM #5
      If you want to spend some money, I highly recommend Prada's classic leather oxfords. No fussing around here, just excellent Italian craftsmanship. $650, but I have been wearing them for over 2 years and they were comfortable from day one, no break-in needed, and I haven't needed to re-sole them or anything.


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      09-21-2012 08:29 PM #6
      Salvatore ferragamo's

    7. 09-27-2012 01:43 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by teutonicgoodness View Post
      If you want to spend some money, I highly recommend Prada's classic leather oxfords. No fussing around here, just excellent Italian craftsmanship. $650, but I have been wearing them for over 2 years and they were comfortable from day one, no break-in needed, and I haven't needed to re-sole them or anything.

      There are much better options for that amount of money.

    8. 10-01-2012 12:29 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by osiris View Post
      There are much better options for that amount of money.
      This. In general stay away from the high end fashion labels, quality isn't close to what it should be for what you are paying.


      osiris gave a great start in his initial response here.

      I can vouch for Edward Green, Crockett and Jones and Church's all being great shoes, no personal experience with the others mentioned. You really should to go to their shops to find out what last your foot goes with before going down that road though.

    9. 10-06-2012 12:19 PM #9
      ferragamos and allen edmonds. Unless you go bespoke these 2 should fit all your needs imo

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      10-09-2012 02:55 PM #10
      I think Allen Edmonds are the best made factory shoe available. Not the most expensive - just the best made. Their shankless and fully welted design alone puts them above anyone else, IMO. I sold men's shoes in college and promised myself that one day when I felt like I could afford it, I buy them for myself.

      I just picked these up last week:



      Heading back to the store for these this afternoon after work:

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      10-09-2012 03:19 PM #11
      A pair of Allen Edmonds or Johnston & Murphys will last you a lifetime with proper care and style selection.

    12. 10-09-2012 07:17 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by robr2 View Post
      A pair of Allen Edmonds or Johnston & Murphys will last you a lifetime with proper care and style selection.
      I think johnston and murphys USED to be really good but are now being sold with the same reputation but the quality has gone way down.

      IMO

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      10-09-2012 07:43 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by ::xander:: View Post
      I think johnston and murphys USED to be really good but are now being sold with the same reputation but the quality has gone way down.

      IMO
      Agreed. I actually heard this complaint 20 years ago when I was selling them.
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      10-09-2012 08:37 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by ::xander:: View Post
      I think johnston and murphys USED to be really good but are now being sold with the same reputation but the quality has gone way down.

      IMO
      Really? Well I have a pair from the 90's still going strong.

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      10-18-2012 08:46 AM #15
      i have a pair of walnut AE McAllisters that are basically your quintessential wingtip brogue:


      as others have said, AE shoes are really good value-for-money.

      if you're looking to spend a bit more on well-known brands, look at Loake, Church's, or Crockett & Jones

      of course, there are tons of boutique shoemakers out there that will make you a shoe of incredible quality at comparable prices to the high-end designers. you just have to find them
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      10-19-2012 09:49 PM #16


      Wife bought these Allen Edmonds for me this summer. I want the same pair in black.
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    17. 10-20-2012 02:42 PM #17
      Get some socks that match your trousers first.

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      10-20-2012 10:12 PM #18
      You could go balls out and get some Gaziano & Girling. I just got my first pair of Carminas, albeit boots, I'm very excited about them. I also plan to treat myself to a pair of Crockett and Jones by end of this year.

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      10-21-2012 08:24 PM #19
      Maybe not the best pictures, but here is some inspiration, for good or bad. Some dress shoes that I have collected over the last 4-5 years. A well-made shoe will last many years; I have a rubber liner applied to the leather sole at my local shoe guy (cobbler is so out of style).

      To be honest, I am not fond of the rounded toe look. However, the Allen Edmonds that people post in this thread look quite appealing.

      The black shoe in the following picture is from 2003 or 2004. I don't wear it too often since it's a bit tight on my foot.



      Another view:



      These are cheaper alternatives from DSW. In the 60 to 100 range:

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      10-21-2012 08:31 PM #20
      By the way, does Suede count?


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      10-22-2012 07:53 AM #21
      You need shoe trees asap.
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      10-25-2012 11:55 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by robr2 View Post
      Johnston & Murphys will last you a lifetime with proper care and style selection.
      I was going to suggest Johnston and Murphy as well. I have a couple of pairs that are ~12 years old, and they look like they did the day I got them. They wear very well, and are some of the most comfortable shoes I own, dress shoes or otherwise.

      I haven't heard about the decline in quality, but I also haven't purchased a new pair of dress shoes in years

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      10-25-2012 11:53 PM #23
      I've been looking to add to my collection and these has been a great thread!

      Definitely liking Allen Edmonds a lot!

    24. 10-26-2012 10:27 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by OG View Post
      By the way, does Suede count?
      By definition, no, suede does not qualify as a "dress" shoe.

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      11-08-2012 10:31 AM #25
      Love my Allen Edmonds! I own the burnished brown Kenilworth's just like these. Very versatile, works with a suit or a pair of jeans.




      This video should put you over the top, and have you completely sold on the brand


    26. 11-28-2012 11:36 PM #26
      Following OG's lead, here is some more for inspiration/guidance. Mix of things in here from Johnston & Murphy to Church's to Edward Green.



      For some backup to the earlier statements recommending to stay away from Prada/etc, the two pairs on the bottom row at the far right are both Prada. I stopped bothering to use trees in them after four years of ownership because they just didn't hold up well to time. The two pairs of shoes on the far left of the bottom row and the far right in the top row were purchased before the Pradas were and at this point have been worn just as much.

      Look for a shoe made of full grain leather, not corrected grain.

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