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    Thread: Kid crashes BMW M3 into rocks (vid)

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      08-20-2012 08:34 PM #76
      It looks like that's an E46, FWIW.

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      08-20-2012 08:36 PM #77
      He should have to do community service in a morgue.

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      08-20-2012 08:39 PM #78
      I know law enforcement agencies are now scanning YouTube for this kind of stuff, and it's only a matter of time before the insurance companies do, too. I, for one, look forward to the day when dipsh!ts like the ones in these videos won't be able to drive because they'll have neither license nor insurance to do it.

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      08-20-2012 08:41 PM #79
      Rather than the airbag, I would have liked to see a cartoonishly proportioned red boxing glove come shooting out of the steering wheel and punch that idiot square in the face.
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      08-20-2012 08:52 PM #80
      He's lucky he wasn't pulling that crap up on the mountain. It does not forgive.

      He's probably from Scottsdale.
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      08-20-2012 09:17 PM #81
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Road bumps and undulations that seem almost imperceptible at normal traffic speed can be huge issues at high speed.
      Taking the weight off the front wheels could have been why he did not steer- if he felt the front tires get loose, then steering is the worst thing you can do as when you land the car will jerk violently to the steered angle.

      Its similar to hitting a patch of black ice. Keep the wheels straight so when you catch traction again you don't loose it.
      When my wife and I first went down that road it was amazing how deciving it can be and how many people were both riding and driving well above their abilities. About 10 minutes into our ride my wife and I came upon a patch of road very similar to what was in the video, and I see my wife hit the brakes hard on her Gixxer and as we look over we see a bike that came off the ground and the rider seperated from it going right into a bunch of cactus.

      We learned real quick this road demanded a lot of respect and a much higher level of skill then other we had ridden on before.

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      08-20-2012 09:20 PM #82
      A+++ video.
      Would watch again!!

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      08-20-2012 09:20 PM #83
      Quote Originally Posted by Swallow Doretti View Post
      I know law enforcement agencies are now scanning YouTube for this kind of stuff, and it's only a matter of time before the insurance companies do, too. I, for one, look forward to the day when dipsh!ts like the ones in these videos won't be able to drive because they'll have neither license nor insurance to do it.
      It's still an accident ... they still have to cover you ... yeah, they might drop your ass like a rock after the payout, but they still are going to cover your ass. You'd be surprised how hard laws make it for insurance companies to weasel their way out of pay outs, even due to negligence.

      DUI crashes are still pay outs, remember. That's why you HAVE insurance, to not just cover you from other people, but to cover you from your stupid ass. All accidents (whether it's crashing into the back of a car, or hitting a tree, or spinning out on ice) are all due to negligent driving ... it's why it's illegal and you get tickets when you crash. Technically, it's a crime to crash.

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      08-20-2012 09:33 PM #85
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      It's still an accident ... they still have to cover you ... yeah, they might drop your ass like a rock after the payout, but they still are going to cover your ass. You'd be surprised how hard laws make it for insurance companies to weasel their way out of pay outs, even due to negligence.
      Almost all insurance policies have a clause in them that says they will not cover you in cases of damage caused either on the track or due to street racing.

      Negligence != Street Racing. In fact, it's pretty much the polar opposite. Negligence means an accident caused by not paying full attention to your driving (e.g., an accident caused by changing lanes without signaling). Street racing is willfully disobeying the law.

      Street racing is often very hard to prove, since nobody usually says after they total their car, "hey, I was street racing!" But if you post the video to YouTube (especially with your license plate visible), it becomes a LOT easier.

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      08-20-2012 09:38 PM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by Swallow Doretti View Post
      Almost all insurance policies have a clause in them that says they will not cover you in cases of damage caused either on the track or due to street racing.

      Negligence != Street Racing. In fact, it's pretty much the polar opposite. Negligence means an accident caused by not paying full attention to your driving (e.g., an accident caused by changing lanes without signaling). Street racing is willfully disobeying the law.

      Street racing is often very hard to prove, since nobody usually says after they total their car, "hey, I was street racing!" But if you post the video to YouTube (especially with your license plate visible), it becomes a LOT easier.
      This wasn't street racing though, and generally, if you read those clauses, they require a conviction through the courts. Believe me, the laws concerning insurance industry claims are pretty tough for them to get out of.

      In Ohio, street racing is pretty explicitly defined as requiring two cars "Side by Side" racing to a predetermined destination. Aka, it's pretty easy to plea your way out of those charges because most cops, instead of writing up reckless op tickets, write up street racing and the prosecutor can't prove those facts.

      Ohio ORC 4511.251

      As used in this section and section 4510.036 of the Revised Code, “street racing” means the operation of two or more vehicles from a point side by side at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to out-distance each other or the operation of one or more vehicles over a common selected course, from the same point to the same point, wherein timing is made of the participating vehicles involving competitive accelerations or speeds. Persons rendering assistance in any manner to such competitive use of vehicles shall be equally charged as the participants. The operation of two or more vehicles side by side either at speeds in excess of prima-facie lawful speeds established by divisions (B)(1)(a) to (B)(8) of section 4511.21 of the Revised Code or rapidly accelerating from a common starting point to a speed in excess of such prima-facie lawful speeds shall be prima-facie evidence of street racing.
      Now, YMMV depending on state of course, but generally, unless you're doing it on purpose to wreck your car, you're going to get covered.
      Last edited by seadoo2006; 08-20-2012 at 09:40 PM.

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      08-20-2012 09:41 PM #87
      Lmfaooo he bounced quite a bit in the seat.

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      08-20-2012 09:47 PM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by mfbmike View Post
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      I hate drivers who try to straighten out roads by crossing double yellows. Seeing that **** on the dragon and other similar roads, ugh.
      This. No respect if you can't keep it between the lines. If you, "can't go that fast and stay between the lines."

      1. you are not that good of driver
      2. your car is not setup well
      3. you are driving too fast for conditions

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      08-20-2012 09:52 PM #89
      Quote Originally Posted by koston. View Post
      This. No respect if you can't keep it between the lines. If you, "can't go that fast and stay between the lines."

      1. you are not that good of driver
      2. your car is not setup well
      3. you are driving too fast for conditions

      Multiple choice, feel free to pick more than one!
      That's because the idiots equate sheer speed with fun. Sometimes the best fun is the 15mph, first-gear switchback that requires you to feather the throttle just right to get back on it on the other side.

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      08-20-2012 09:54 PM #90
      Anyone have additional information on the kid and/or the post accident car?

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      08-20-2012 09:55 PM #91
      From what I saw I'm the video, it doesn't look like the car understeered. It looks like he crested a small hill and that turn took him by surprise.
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      08-20-2012 10:01 PM #92
      Quote Originally Posted by nemo1ner View Post
      From what I saw I'm the video, it doesn't look like the car understeered. It looks like he crested a small hill and that turn took him by surprise.
      I don't think anyone said he understeered. He came off of a dip then a crest, offloaded the front tires, and he probably panic-froze into the crash on the realization he had zero front end grip because, at that moment, the front tires were in the air or severly off-loaded. You can see it in his hands ... he makes a slight aim for the left before resigning himself to going off and he looks right at his crash.

      Remember what they teach you at HPDE ... your car will naturally go where you are looking due to your natural reflexes. You can lessen the impact/severity or avoid a crash by simply by looking at where your emergency maneuver should take you.

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      08-20-2012 10:11 PM #93
      My favorite part of this video is when his sweatshirt hood flies up perfectly onto his head mid-crash, like an additional safety measure

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      08-20-2012 10:12 PM #94
      This..... this was a good click.
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      08-20-2012 10:13 PM #95
      I didn't laugh the first time. I watched it again and laughed. Everytime I replay I laugh now.

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      08-20-2012 10:13 PM #96
      Quote Originally Posted by Roketdriver View Post
      Rather than the airbag, I would have liked to see a cartoonishly proportioned red boxing glove come shooting out of the steering wheel and punch that idiot square in the face.
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    23. 08-21-2012 12:44 AM #98
      lmaoo. he needs braking lines on his road..video games < real life
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      08-21-2012 01:09 AM #100
      What do you expect when you drive like a video game? He was not expecting that corner at all, from the looks of it.
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