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Thread: MK7 Will Weight Under 2400 lbs.

  1. 08-22-2012 11:48 AM #1
    I'm assuming this will be for the most basic European model with a 1.2 3 or 4 cylinder engine. Assuming the weight savings translate across the range a base US model golf should come in at around 2700 lbs which would be really nice if power levels remain the same.

    http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/08...-new-2013.html

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    08-22-2012 11:52 AM #2
    MK7 Will Weigh Under 2400 lbs*

    *body in white



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    08-22-2012 11:55 AM #3
    Here is the relevant information:

    Quote Originally Posted by Car Scoop
    Even though it has a larger footprint than the Golf Mk6, the German firm's compact model is up to 100kg (220 pounds) lighter than its predecessor.

    [...]

    As a direct result of the weight savings, VW says that fuel consumption has been reduced by an average of 13.9 percent across the range with some versions boasting up to 23 percent savings.

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    08-22-2012 11:57 AM #4
    Makes you wonder how much fuel overweight people would save if they lost a couple of pounds...

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    08-22-2012 08:21 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by wide_load View Post
    Makes you wonder how much fuel overweight people would save if they lost a couple of pounds...
    I thought Rascals were electric?
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    08-22-2012 08:23 PM #6
    Seems legit

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    08-22-2012 08:26 PM #7
    MK7=Unobtainium
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    08-22-2012 08:28 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by wide_load View Post
    Makes you wonder how much fuel overweight people would save if they lost a couple of pounds...
    As long as fuel is counted in Happy Meals some people will always be happy
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    08-22-2012 08:43 PM #9
    carscoop is wrong, no modern car can weigh 2,315 pounds and still meet euro ncap regulation, let alone score high mark

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    08-22-2012 08:47 PM #10
    no it wont

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    08-22-2012 08:55 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Ungarisch View Post
    carscoop is wrong, no modern car can weigh 2,315 pounds and still meet euro ncap regulation, let alone score high mark
    yea that's less than a new mini.....
    it's not a photoshop, I checked the pixels.
    But have you seen a few photoshops in your time?
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    08-22-2012 08:58 PM #12
    its less then a base fiat 500

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    08-22-2012 08:59 PM #13
    It's less than your mom.
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    08-22-2012 08:59 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Ungarisch View Post
    carscoop is wrong, no modern car can weigh 2,315 pounds and still meet euro ncap regulation, let alone score high mark







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    08-22-2012 09:10 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by FissionMailed View Post
    It's less than your mom.
    826 posts in 6 years and this is one of them?

    how come a transvestite donkey witch is next to you and why is it wearing a dress?

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    08-22-2012 09:13 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by what View Post
    826 posts in 6 years and this is one of them?

    Seriously, I read his name quick as "failed Mission" and was like yup...
    it's not a photoshop, I checked the pixels.
    But have you seen a few photoshops in your time?
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    08-22-2012 09:18 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
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    Um, the dumb only got four stars...under the older, less intensive crash-test system:

    http://euroncap.com/results/smart.aspx

    But the Toyota/Scion iQ has gotten five stars under the new system, as has the VW Up!, and a bunch of superminis from Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Honda and Chevrolet:

    http://euroncap.com/supermini.aspx?dontlaunchmobile=1
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  18. 08-22-2012 09:43 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Swallow Doretti View Post
    Um, the dumb only got four stars...under the older, less intensive crash-test system:

    http://euroncap.com/results/smart.aspx

    But the Toyota/Scion iQ has gotten five stars under the new system, as has the VW Up!, and a bunch of superminis from Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Honda and Chevrolet:

    http://euroncap.com/supermini.aspx?dontlaunchmobile=1
    How was the pedestrian score so low on the dumb car?

    Probably because people jumped over it or out of the way, and they had very little test data. /end sarcasm.
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    08-22-2012 09:55 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by what View Post
    826 posts in 6 years and this is one of them?

    I was just continuing the previous few posts. I apologize.
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    08-22-2012 10:01 PM #20
    nah, that would be 5070 lbs

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    08-22-2012 10:22 PM #21
    How's it go again? Hater's gonna hate...

    My loaded Mk6 TDI (heavy engine) is 2900-3000lbs (it's about the same as my Mk4 was). A small engine model, with less features and smarter construction, while I don't believe 2300lbs; will probably be 2500-2600lbs, conceivably. (they say a 220lbs weight reduction is in the works in the article... so we'll say 2700-2750lbs for a regular Golf you'd buy here)

    One of the most profitable, largest, and most innovative car companies in the world... Immense engineering talent (the Phaeton, the Veyron, modern Lambo's and Audi's too)... I'm thinking they are in one of the best positions to engineer cars with less weight. You can leg hump the Korean's (since they're the new cool kid in town), the Japanese, or the American's all you want - but most automotive innovations happen first in the birthplace of the automobile, Germany. They are recognized leaders in all things automotive. I damn well believe it that if they say their cars will lose weight, they will lose weight. German companies put down massive R&D budgets... They are never afraid of an idea not paying for itself - it's just another lesson learned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    That's the joke. There's no way it's under 2400lbs. German cars get their stable road holding manners primarily because they're heavier cars than their counterparts.
    Their cars were considered great road cars even when their average car weighed close to the sub 2000lbs range (say the BMW 2002)... American cars at the time were tanks, and not considered as good of a drivers car.

    Mid-size cars like the Passat are considered great on the road (for a mainstream car)... it is one of the lightest cars in its class (about 40lbs more then the Camry) despite having one of the longest wheelbases, roomiest back seat, largest trunk etc... it also has some of the best real-world fuel economy numbers due to its lightness.
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    08-22-2012 10:58 PM #22
    These weight reduction numbers came straight from a press conference in Berlin today where VW gave a preview of the Golf 7 - the car is to be fully reveled on Sept 4th. So you can take those numbers to the bank.

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    08-22-2012 11:22 PM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
    These weight reduction numbers came straight from a press conference in Berlin today where VW gave a preview of the Golf 7 - the car is to be fully reveled on Sept 4th. So you can take those numbers to the bank.
    I'm not sure though how these weights are being calculated. According to VW.co.uk, the lightest Golf currently is 1229 kg, or 2,709 lbs. Subtracting 220 lbs from that doesn't get to under 2,400 lbs.

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