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    1. n00b
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      08-22-2012 06:03 PM #1
      i have a 98 beetle looking for easy cheaper ways to add power to it any ideas..hit me up

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      08-22-2012 06:10 PM #2
      Is it a 2.0 as listed in your profile? If so, there isn't much you can do. The 2.0 wasn't designed to be a powerhouse. Adding a turbo or supercharger are going to be where your power gains really are, but that ain't cheap. A tune isn't even really worth it on these cars.

      I had a 2.0 so I know how you feel. But I enjoyed the engine for what it was. Cheap, easy to maintain, reliable.
      Quote Originally Posted by TM87 View Post
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      The project - '84 Jetta 1.6TD, 190k, fully rebuilt, Giles IP and injectors, 2.5" custom exhaust, 51mpg
      Hers - '03 BMP 20thAE GTI, 138k, 3" 42DD turbo back, Unitronic Stage 2
      His - '01 Jetta TDI, 159k. Now has 3 pedals, as it should!

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      08-23-2012 11:11 AM #3
      There are small things you can do, but you're not going to get huge gains. Intake and exhaust are going to net you the biggest gains. Getting better spark plugs and wires will make it more efficient. But Rockerchick is right, you're not going to see huge gains until you supercharge or turbocharge. It all depends on how much money you're wanting to spend.

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      08-23-2012 10:51 PM #4
      Intake and exhaust won't do anything but make noise and make it feel faster. You only gain power by eliminating a bottleneck, and the stock intake and exhaust flow plenty well for the 2.0. The real bottleneck in that engine is the cylinder head.

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      08-24-2012 10:57 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by SMG8vT View Post
      Intake and exhaust won't do anything but make noise and make it feel faster. You only gain power by eliminating a bottleneck, and the stock intake and exhaust flow plenty well for the 2.0. The real bottleneck in that engine is the cylinder head.
      You are absolutely right. But that is not cheap by any means . Intake and exhaust will provide small gains, and some power. The stock exhaust is a bottle neck though. Between the 2 though, you'll probably only get 10 or so HP, if even. There really isn't a "cheap" way to make power with these motors like RockerChick stated earlier. Reliability was the goal with this motor, and they managed that. Want more power? The best way, and the cheapest would likely be a motor swap for the biggest gains. 50 hp with the 1.8t in stock form, 76 with a vr6 in its stock form (approximately on both motors).

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      08-24-2012 11:02 AM #6
      Maybe you could get some gains out of it if you did headers and a high-flow cat too but I dynoed 91whp with an intake and and cat-back exhaust on my AEG, which is right where it should have been stock.

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      08-24-2012 11:25 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by VWBugman00 View Post
      Want more power? The best way, and the cheapest would likely be a motor swap for the biggest gains. 50 hp with the 1.8t in stock form, 76 with a vr6 in its stock form (approximately on both motors).
      Or grab a 1.8T from a Turbo S or post '02 Golf or Jetta. 180hp stock vs. the 150hp in most NB 1.8T's It was like getting a super chip when I went from my 2.0 NB to my GTI. 115hp to 180hp + a turbo...mmmmm.
      Quote Originally Posted by TM87 View Post
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      The project - '84 Jetta 1.6TD, 190k, fully rebuilt, Giles IP and injectors, 2.5" custom exhaust, 51mpg
      Hers - '03 BMP 20thAE GTI, 138k, 3" 42DD turbo back, Unitronic Stage 2
      His - '01 Jetta TDI, 159k. Now has 3 pedals, as it should!

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      08-24-2012 11:28 AM #8
      On the 98-2000 2.0's the 1.8T swap is a huge ordeal, went through it last summer. Spent more than the book value of the car doing it.

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      08-24-2012 08:49 PM #9
      Wow I wanted to do a swap but after reading your post Smg I'm staying slow for now

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      08-24-2012 10:14 PM #10
      If the car is DBW already it's not bad though.

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      08-27-2012 11:19 PM #11
      thanks for the replies i did not wanna hear that but believe i do wanna get my hands on a turbo one but right now not in the cards ,,, unless i could trade even .. if anything what woould be a good mod to start with if i go that route for now

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      08-27-2012 11:22 PM #12
      Coilovers / cupkit and a rear swaybar.

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