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      08-22-2012 11:49 PM #1
      http://www.vwvortex.com/news/volkswa...-r-spy-photos/

      Edited cause I'm still very interested in the upcoming details.
      Last edited by djdub; 08-28-2012 at 04:11 PM.

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      08-23-2012 04:01 AM #2
      There are rumors and then there are rumors; while people on online forums might mix things up, rumors in print have not suggested that engine might appear in an R, which will remain a turbo 4, albeit a little more powerful. The 5 cylinder engine has been rumored for an RS - of which a single prototype is said to exist. That model, which you'd figure would be priced 8-10k higher than an R, is not confirmed for production, let alone for sale in the us. As far as I know, VW hasn't even commented on the possibilities for such a model.

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      08-23-2012 06:50 AM #3
      I for one am pretty happy to see development on a mk7 R period. To already see some info before the mk7 golf is even released is a good sign IMO

    4. 08-23-2012 08:04 AM #4
      Let's just hope that on the MK7 ESP can be turned off...

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      08-23-2012 08:44 AM #5
      That 5 pot turbo was a pipe dream for our market.

      Heck we cant even get proper Recaros and LED Tails on our R.

      Love to see this might not be a once every 4 year release.

      Golf R isn't that special to be a twice a decade release. Evo and STI are every year models.

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      08-23-2012 09:17 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by djdub View Post
      http://www.vwvortex.com/news/volkswa...-r-spy-photos/

      Anyone else a little bummed out? I knew this was too good to be true when someone mentioned the rumor of the Audi 5cyl 2.5T from the RS3...Would have gladly paid more. O well. Here's to hoping we get an RS3 in the USA next go round...

      I do like the new headlights peaking through the masking though.
      I don't quite understand the expectations of some...

      Losing 200lbs, and gaining 24hp and xxtq will surely make for a faster Golf R. Also, if they bring over the DSG version as well, I predict the 0-60 in the 5.0 to 5.2 second range and the quarter mile in 13.7@over 100MPH. Keep the price the same, and I'd be a shopper for sure.

      Of course this is all guessing/hoping on my part, but it does look promising. I would cross shop it with a CPO B8 S4 though.

      Quote Originally Posted by Eurofan4eva View Post
      Let's just hope that on the MK7 ESP can be turned off...
      Considering the 2013 GTI/GLI models you can, I'd say yes.
      Last edited by MKV Aaron; 08-23-2012 at 09:30 AM.

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      08-23-2012 09:36 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by XM_Rocks View Post
      Love to see this might not be a once every 4 year release.

      Golf R isn't that special to be a twice a decade release. Evo and STI are every year models.
      I 100% agree with you. I have said this in the Golf R forum and been shunned.

      If you think about it, the only reason people think its so special is BECAUSE of its every 4 year release. The Golf R threw a wrench in that splitting up the 2012/2013 model years, and hopefully this test car is a good sign, as you said.

      If you think about the 222hp, and increased tq on a GTI that weighs even less than the MKVI, it'll be even closer to the current Golf R in terms of performance. I predict DSG is at least an option, as the article said, because its an easy way to get increased performance numbers without increasing power. The DSG launch is incredible, and makes cars 0-60 about a half second faster.

      I am pretty excited, and I hope we hear more details!

      I'd be in the market for a 2015MY Golf R in 2014 for sure.

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      08-23-2012 11:29 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by MKV Aaron View Post
      I 100% agree with you. I have said this in the Golf R forum and been shunned.
      lol... me too.

      Just a month ago I posted this and was stoned.

      On the thread I showed through KBB value how Evo and STI has retained more % of orig value in the 2004 model year than an R32.

      Of course their is always a fanboi segment of our community that craves this abusive 4 year cycle.

      They want to be teased for 18 months. See it released in Europe... watch 1,000's of Youtube videos for the unobtanium they cant have.

      Then 18 months pass and we see a waterdowned version the R with only one drivetrain configuration.

      The scramble to order when VW releases 50 cars @ 1am on a Tuesday morning. Ohhhh please VW take my money *throws wad of money in the parking lot*. Oh did I miss the window?!?!?! Next release is in 20 days.

      Those early adopters will get gouged by the dealers for 3-6 months, at sticker or over.

      Then in 6 months when demand wains the car gets sold near or below invoice.

      All the while anyone can leisurely stroll into any Subaru or Mitsubishi dealer on any Saturday morning and buy a STI or Evo in stock... drive it home by lunch and enjoy their weekend.

      Its like they are sadists.

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      08-23-2012 12:02 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by XM_Rocks View Post
      lol... me too.

      Just a month ago I posted this and was stoned.

      On the thread I showed through KBB value how Evo and STI has retained more % of orig value in the 2004 model year than an R32.

      Of course their is always a fanboi segment of our community that craves this abusive 4 year cycle.

      They want to be teased for 18 months. See it released in Europe... watch 1,000's of Youtube videos for the unobtanium they cant have.

      Then 18 months pass and we see a waterdowned version the R with only one drivetrain configuration.

      The scramble to order when VW releases 50 cars @ 1am on a Tuesday morning. Ohhhh please VW take my money *throws wad of money in the parking lot*. Oh did I miss the window?!?!?! Next release is in 20 days.

      Those early adopters will get gouged by the dealers for 3-6 months, at sticker or over.

      Then in 6 months when demand wains the car gets sold near or below invoice.

      All the while anyone can leisurely stroll into any Subaru or Mitsubishi dealer on any Saturday morning and buy a STI or Evo in stock... drive it home by lunch and enjoy their weekend.

      Its like they are sadists.
      This is SO true.

      I hate how VW wants to be on their own level they don't make a car to compete (STI, EVO's) they make a car to appease Fanbois and the oh soft touch interiors crows.

      Don't get me wrong the R series has been awesome in it's own way, I just wish VW would step up to the plate in regards to performance against Subaru and Mitsubishi.

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      08-23-2012 12:11 PM #10
      Hopefully the MK7 R will have a DSG option too

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      08-23-2012 12:32 PM #11
      a camera on the front bumper??????

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      08-23-2012 01:07 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by bz0n3 View Post
      a camera on the front bumper??????
      No, radar.... active cruise control....

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      08-23-2012 02:44 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by XM_Rocks View Post
      lol... me too.

      Just a month ago I posted this and was stoned.

      On the thread I showed through KBB value how Evo and STI has retained more % of orig value in the 2004 model year than an R32.

      Of course their is always a fanboi segment of our community that craves this abusive 4 year cycle.

      They want to be teased for 18 months. See it released in Europe... watch 1,000's of Youtube videos for the unobtanium they cant have.

      Then 18 months pass and we see a waterdowned version the R with only one drivetrain configuration.

      The scramble to order when VW releases 50 cars @ 1am on a Tuesday morning. Ohhhh please VW take my money *throws wad of money in the parking lot*. Oh did I miss the window?!?!?! Next release is in 20 days.

      Those early adopters will get gouged by the dealers for 3-6 months, at sticker or over.

      Then in 6 months when demand wains the car gets sold near or below invoice.

      All the while anyone can leisurely stroll into any Subaru or Mitsubishi dealer on any Saturday morning and buy a STI or Evo in stock... drive it home by lunch and enjoy their weekend.

      Its like they are sadists.
      Yep. Looking back, I am SO glad I skipped on the MKVI Golf R.

      I will say I haven't had a good experience at the Subaru dealers trying to test drive an STI. I have driven all gen R32/Golf R and Evos, not to mention, pretty much any car up to 100k, but have gotten shot down over half a dozen times when looking into STIs.

      Even when it was for my dad, and he drove in in his 45k 2001 S4 the first year of the STI. His lease was up, and was contemplating a new car, or purchasing it at lease end. We drove 100k 911's, B6 S4s, M3, etc and they said he couldn't drive it without financing and a deal in place. LOLOLOL

      He bought a new B6 S4 instead.

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      08-23-2012 08:52 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by vdub10golf View Post
      Hopefully the MK7 R will have a DSG option too
      This. I just hope it isn't too far off since I am starting to get that itch with my MKV.

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      08-23-2012 09:57 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by brennok View Post
      This. I just hope it isn't too far off since I am starting to get that itch with my MKV.
      I wouldn't expect it before this time in 2014. Golf and GTI this time in 2013, Golf R 1 year later. Just my opinion.

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      08-24-2012 09:52 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by MKV Aaron View Post
      I wouldn't expect it before this time in 2014. Golf and GTI this time in 2013, Golf R 1 year later. Just my opinion.
      Yeah I am not it expecting it any time soon, but if they wait 4 years again I will be driving something else.

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      08-26-2012 10:14 PM #17
      Rumor has it that the Golf 7 R will be out much sooner than past R models and will be around for at least 4 years of the six year product lifecycle.

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      08-26-2012 10:37 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by jamie@vwvortex View Post
      Rumor has it that the Golf 7 R will be out much sooner than past R models and will be around for at least 4 years of the six year product lifecycle.
      I'm curious if those plans will include our market this time around. I know it's way too early to tell any of that yet, but I would imagine that if (big if) they tool the factory to produce 4Motion vehicles so that they can make the (rumored) North American Alltrack, it would make it far easier to consider production of a Golf R for our market. But I suppose that's a lot of maybe's that have to line up. One can only hope.
      There’s more to it than that, though. I feel the fast Golf is a part of me. We’ve grown up together. When it came along, all simple and full of fun, I was living in a flat in London. Now it’s soft and luxurious and I’m slouched in a house in the Cotswolds. It’s like 1970s rock music. New stuff comes along which I’m sure is cleaner and better produced but it doesn’t have the heart and soul of the original.

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      08-28-2012 04:09 PM #19
      There is an additional note to this in the Golf 7 Technical Details on manufacturing and the location being in the USA. No hard confirmation yet though. This would explain a longer production cycle.


    20. 08-28-2012 08:57 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by djdub View Post
      There is an additional note to this in the Golf 7 Technical Details on manufacturing and the location being in the USA. No hard confirmation yet though. This would explain a longer production cycle.

      I still hope that the production stays in Germany, but I wouldn't mind if I could get down to Chattanooga to take delivery of my car. I think this would actually be really cool.

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      Have deposit down on 2013 R. Will I regret this??
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      Quote Originally Posted by WeeDub11 View Post
      Have deposit down on 2013 R. Will I regret this??
      yup...

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      09-04-2012 06:51 AM #24
      Even if the expedite production of 2015 or 2016 golf r that is still 2-3 yrs from now
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      09-04-2012 08:33 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by WeeDub11 View Post
      Have deposit down on 2013 R. Will I regret this??
      I would wait.

      MK6 R @ $36k lost its luster with me when they announced an undefeatable stability control and FSI.

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      09-04-2012 10:04 AM #26
      Serious? How often do normal people put their car in a tail out under oversteer. Bogus complaint unless you track the car.

      I mean would be preferable for esc defeat but if you are using as a dd and not a track car, not a consideration.
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      09-04-2012 10:40 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by WeeDub11 View Post
      Serious? How often do normal people put their car in a tail out under oversteer. Bogus complaint unless you track the car.

      I mean would be preferable for esc defeat but if you are using as a dd and not a track car, not a consideration.
      You asked for opinions... and I gave you mine.

      Either ignore it or make up your own mind.

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      09-04-2012 11:19 AM #28
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      09-04-2012 12:46 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by WeeDub11 View Post
      Have deposit down on 2013 R. Will I regret this??
      At best you will be waiting years for the new model. If I really liked the R I would buy it now and in 3-4 years consider getting the new model. We don't know the specs on it, what it will cost or when it will be here.

      It's possible that if you buy the current R you will decide the upgrade in a number of years to the new model isn't worth the price.

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      09-05-2012 10:41 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by WeeDub11 View Post
      Have deposit down on 2013 R. Will I regret this??
      Absolutely not! It's a fantastically fun car to drive. If you are of the mindset that your appreciation of the car will be decreased by the knowledge that a new version will be coming out in 2 years, then maybe you should wait. But, then you'll never enjoy anything new you get because there's always going to be a newer and possibly better version in the future. Just my opinion. If you want to get the R go for it, you will enjoy it immensely. I'm a Subaru fan, and I would recommend this car to anyone who is looking for an exhilarating driving experience and great creature comforts. Two years down the line, who knows what will be, maybe you'll hit the lottery and you'll be able to get the car of your dreams.
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      09-11-2012 09:05 PM #31
      The next Golf R most likely will be running the 3rd gen EA888 (link) with a K04.

      Finally getting direct and port injection!!!

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      09-12-2012 01:26 PM #32
      I recently went through the dilema of either waiting for the MK VII or just pulling the trigger on an MK VI Golf R. I ended up with an MK VI RBM 4 door loaded... let me tell you why.

      First, it is already a fantastic car, and unlike many others, I am able to choose between what matters to me versus what matters to people that track their car. I don't care if traction control cannot be fully turned off. What, I'll maybe take my car to the track once or twice in 4+ years of ownership? So what?

      Second, I do not have the mentality of the grass is greener... or that I need to have every new technology. If you get an MK VI, you won't exactly be driving a junker... you'll have a special, limited production car that has refinement and lacks the boy racer image of the STi (note... this is a good thing).

      What someone else mentioned is wise... get the MK VI R and then just pull the trigger 4 years from now on the MK VII R *IF* we even get it and *IF* you even think it is worth it. If you want more performance, mod it. The MK VI R is not exactly slow in stock trim, and with flashes and a HPFP upgrade, you are looking at a very strong performer.

      My two cents... might as well get an R now and enjoy it, that way once the new one comes out, you are only looking at ~ 2 more years to get it if you wait 4 years total.

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      09-12-2012 03:55 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Baylorguy View Post
      I recently went through the dilema of either waiting for the MK VII or just pulling the trigger on an MK VI Golf R. I ended up with an MK VI RBM 4 door loaded... let me tell you why.

      First, it is already a fantastic car, and unlike many others, I am able to choose between what matters to me versus what matters to people that track their car. I don't care if traction control cannot be fully turned off. What, I'll maybe take my car to the track once or twice in 4+ years of ownership? So what?

      Second, I do not have the mentality of the grass is greener... or that I need to have every new technology. If you get an MK VI, you won't exactly be driving a junker... you'll have a special, limited production car that has refinement and lacks the boy racer image of the STi (note... this is a good thing).

      What someone else mentioned is wise... get the MK VI R and then just pull the trigger 4 years from now on the MK VII R *IF* we even get it and *IF* you even think it is worth it. If you want more performance, mod it. The MK VI R is not exactly slow in stock trim, and with flashes and a HPFP upgrade, you are looking at a very strong performer.

      My two cents... might as well get an R now and enjoy it, that way once the new one comes out, you are only looking at ~ 2 more years to get it if you wait 4 years total.
      Quoted for emphasis.

      I simply cannot believe the MK7 Golf R would get to the US any sooner than 2015, if it comes at all. VWoA would have to reverse a 50 year track record of late US launches. Maybe they will this time but I am beyond highly skeptical

      Fool me once, shame on you
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      Fool me everytime for 50 years in a row, call me a US VW customer.

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      09-13-2012 08:23 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Waterfan View Post
      Quoted for emphasis.

      I simply cannot believe the MK7 Golf R would get to the US any sooner than 2015, if it comes at all. VWoA would have to reverse a 50 year track record of late US launches. Maybe they will this time but I am beyond highly skeptical

      Fool me once, shame on you
      Fool me twice, shame on me
      Fool me everytime for 50 years in a row, call me a US VW customer.
      The only thing that leads me to believe an earlier release may be true is it will be the first non-German factory made GTI/R. We arent competing for production time with high volume markets.

      Also VW is selling lots of Jetta and Passat cars.

      They need a wide line-up when those 1st VW Customers come back for a different car the 2nd time around. Like a gateway drug.

      Heck who knows what VWoA is going to do.

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      09-14-2012 04:08 PM #35
      There have been numerous rumors and non-direct answers from VW people at this point that I think it is a foregone conclusion that the Golf 7/GTI and potentially Golf 7 R will all be built in Mexico. My guess is Mexico as opposed to Chattanooga because I think VW will stick with larger vehicles/SUV's at Chattanooga and build the Jetta, Jetta Wagon, Golf 7, Golf 7 GTI, Jetta Wagon Alltrack, Beetle and Beetle Convertible in Mexico. I think VW will probably make a formal announcement at the Golf 7 first drive in October in Europe in regards to where the north american Golf 7 will be built.

      Once that happens, that means MQB is supported in North America and if they build a Jetta Wagon Alltrack that also means AWD at the factory in Mexico. If there is AWD supported at the factory in Mexico then the Golf 7 R could be built down there.

      Lots of deducted logic there, but it all makes sense.

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