You're seriously the most ****ing retarded regular poster here. Go bitch somewhere else.You make it sound like it's been decades since someone made a proper sports car.
Fact of the matter is this.. even if you continue to not acknowledge that a 5.0 mustang costs on par with this car and will SMOKE IT - EVEN IN THE TURNS - then fine - they discontinued the great (drivers cars) s2000 and rx8 2 or 3 years back. Miata is still available.
It's not like this was ever a dead niche - and for the power that the twins come with - it's not a great sports car. In fact I believe it to be hurting this niche because now nissan and honda have both had high ranking executives give press statements saying things like "it is interesting to see how a low powered piece of **** like this can sell - we'll probably make our own versions" This car is damaging what car manufacturers judge to be a sports car.
The chassis is great - no one will argue with you there.. low placement of lots of weight is good. suspension allows for great drive feel? CHECK CHECK CHECK.
The car is a collab between toyota and subaru. Subaru makes **** ENGINES that crack pistons left and right. Toyota makes crazy reliable engines and the engines that end up in cars like the elise. So which manufacturer do they choose to make the engine? FANTASTIC. Do they put a drivers engine in the car, like a straight 6 or a high revving/high specific output 4 cylinder engine? NO.
Someone said.. may have been same poster "you live with the chassis." Well.. you also "live with the engine." Sure you can swap an engine out - but if you have the money to do that you probably have the down payment for a used caymen s as well - so if that is the case then you can switch out the chassis and engine and have an actual sports car. I have said before, and will reiterate again, that you can't call a car witht his engine a drivers car or even a sports car. It continues to be a true statement.
I am with everyone else in this thread that does not get the hype around this car. If you want a weekend toy.. go spend half the money and get a real sports car off the used market. If you want a reliable appliance to haul the kids around on the week days - then get a twin... but don't come up in here talking about "check out my kids in the back seat - this is the greatest sports car ever." as if this car "is like.. the savior of the entire sports car niche"
and before people start saying that no one ever said this was the greatest sports car ever - you're right. no one has ever said that and no one ever will.
and before people say that there isn't a lot of hype around the car and people aren't getting overly excited about it - do us all a favor before you refute that and go confirm my count that there were 763 threads about this car last month. Which means that the car lounge is no longer a cool automotive forum site about cars in general - it is a site singularly devoted to the worship of a high mpg, low hp, low tq, **** interior, appliance that people use to get themselves to and from work, while feeling a bit smug about how well suspended their asses are.