I have no respect for dealers who pull this kind of BS.
However, when you consider that they don't make that much money on most auto sales, it's kind of expected that they find income from elsewhere in the business.
Well this one happened to me in Michigan (can't remember the Chrysler Jeep dealer's name) while I was taking the then current weekend girlfriends New Jeep Wrangler for it's first LOF.
The service rep came into the waiting office and went thru the "inspected" fluids presentation explaining to her that she needed a dealerhip recommended Engine, Power Steering and Brake flush on her 3,500 mile new Jeep.....
I proceded to ask why, because it was a new one and it was it's first LOF. He proceded to explain that during the break in process the engine proceeds to creat multiple metal shavings of it's bearings and internal combustion engine and thus it needs al the dealership recommended services to have a clean engine. The fuel system flush was to enhance the "winter" gas mix and to "enhance the MPG's" of the Jeep......
Needless to say I said to the LOF and be done with it. Also to read the book that is in the car that states manufacturer recommended maintenance.
Needless to say she didn't go there again and proceeded to drive at least an hour to have any maintenance and or warranty work done.
A good solution to the ATF debate is that I drive a manual
I don't know how some other companies are, but any VW transmission other than the DSG (which has a 30k interval flush) I would never touch. We sell so many valve bodies I couldn't tell you how many are out in the scrap bin.
We stopped going to our local Honda dealer for service mainly because we couldn't take them pushing their ridiculously expensive non-manufacturer maintenance packages anymore. They pad them with BS like "inspect" and "check" items and unnecessary tire balancing (anytime they rotate tires they insist on rebalancing the front two, even if you tell them "but my tires don't have any vibration at all, brah"). They also accelerate the manufacturer-recommended intervals for some other items as well.
We quickly transitioned to a fantastic independent mechanic
Current: 2013 Volt | 2002 S2000 (#8029) |+| 2006 Pilot
Past: 2007 Passat Wagon 2.0T 6MT | 2000 GTI VR6 | 2002 S2000 (#6343) | 1999 Miata | 1992 240SX |+| 2005 Accord | 1995 Accord | 1988 Civic
Better than the trans completely failing at around 100k that no amount of flush or drain would fix, hahaha.
My cousin's Odyssey had it's auto trans fail around 250k also but he had it replaced once. I don't remember when.
how come a transvestite donkey witch is next to you and why is it wearing a dress?
Say 'what' again. Say 'what' again, I dare you, I double dare you mother****er, say what one more goddamn time!
Dealers are really horrific places to take your car.
I always wonder if they actually have any real mechanics working in them anymore. They seem to be great at changing oil and other fluids (for $200+).
But, any time I've asked them too look at or diagnose a real issue it is the most predictable thing in the world. Take it for less than a km test drive, come back and say "couldn't replicate the issue so we can't do anything about it".
And EVERYTHING takes them a full day around here. If I take my car to my mechanic for an oil change, he does that, a full inspection of the car, and has it washed in 45 min max.
I every time I ask the incompetent dealer about it they want me to leave other for 7 hours, pay twice as much, and take a shuttle that only goes one way.
Last edited by WhistlerYOW; 09-01-2012 at 05:10 PM.