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    Thread: I'd rather repair rust than drive..(datsun roadster rebuild)

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      08-30-2012 07:58 PM #1


      I changed this to a build thread. I think I've already answered the question whether or not I'd take a roadster over a miata.
      Last edited by lagomorph; 05-23-2014 at 09:47 PM.
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      08-30-2012 08:09 PM #2
      Truthfully you can only decide for yourself.

      That said, if it were me, and it were w weekend car, it'd be a Datsun Roadster in a heartbeat, cuz I love 'em. A daily? No question. Keep the Miata, even though it's burgundy.

      I really like Datsun Roadsters, though.
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      08-30-2012 10:36 PM #3
      Easy call, IMO. Go with the Datsun Roadster, and if you want more parts availability, find one with the SR20 swap or do one yourself. Either way, a great car for most anything - except bad weather. Compared to the Miata, the Roadster is very unusual and gets lots of attention. The Datsun is certainly less comfortable, noisier, and less well finished.

      Question: are you single? It may be a relevant question.... I find that a Datsun attracts women more than many other cars. They find you very "approachable" in a Datsun, and it gives them a reason to say Hi. The type of woman you would meet in that manner would be more likely to understand you as a "car guy". I have been married for 24 years, but one of my first dates with my wife included a spin around the block in my Datsun Roadster, with her sitting on a milk crate on the passenger side because I hadn't completed the restoration. I knew she was a cool girl then... still is, and she still puts up with my car-ness.

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      09-13-2012 10:18 AM #4
      A picture is worth a a thousand words...so here is my Roadster on South Gate Road headed up Mt. Diablo:


      Answer: Get the Datsun.

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      09-13-2012 10:20 AM #5
      Thank you to above poster for a Dastun roadster. Would have expected OP to have pics of both types

      I would go with the Datsun though for sheer rarity. I see Miata's of all styles around here, boring. Of course you could join the TCL elite buy buying a Miata.

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      09-13-2012 10:20 AM #6
      as cool as a 95 M is...go with the datsun.
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      09-13-2012 10:21 AM #7
      Sounds like you have an emotional need for the Datsun.

      Go drive it and see if you could live with it.
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      09-13-2012 10:23 AM #8
      Datto roadsters are awesome dude.

      Do it.

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      09-13-2012 12:54 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by lagomorph View Post
      So I'm at a crossroads. I have a miata right now, and it's a decent driver. I'm tempted by the thoughts of a datsun roadster, though. Esp. with a SR20 installed. The youtube vids have kept me company on several nights shifts at work now. Am I loco for wanting to sell my proven, reliable 95 M edition for a rusty old Japanese car with leaf springs in the back and no real aftermarket support?


      I've helped build 5 or 6 SR20 Roadsters. The full restoration kind. It's the reason I've got an SR20 sitting in my Miata right now. If you can commit the ~$15K to building an SR20 Roadster or the ~$20K to buying an SR20 Roadster and you only want a weekend kickaround car, you can't go wrong.

      SR20 Roadster (134WHP, 2050lbs) to Miata (~130WHP, 2300lbs) comparison
      Style or exclusivity - Roadster, hands down
      Straight line acceleration - Roadster
      Daily Driver - Miata. SR20 roadster is too difficult to replace
      Autocross - tie
      Cost to replace - Miata
      Ease of replacement parts - Miata
      Steering feedback and response - MIATA


      Any of the cars below could roll in to any Nissan or Infiniti dealership in the country and plug in to the Consult diagnostics or buy 98% of the Nissan drivetrain parts. Even a lowly normally aspirated SR20 Roadster (~134WHP) can hand NA Miatas their ass on acceleration. To the point, where I won't go on cruises in my Miata with SR20 Roadsters. They're just too strong to keep up with. Also, Roadsters are twice as relaxing and comfortable to drive on 8hr roadtrips than a Miata. They've got MUCh better wind deflection.

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      This is what you get for about $500.

      Same car, ~$15K later; frame off resto, acid dipped body, powder coated frame, NOS datsun parts, hand built brake lines, S13 turbo, GSL-SE rear end, etc.
      S13 SR20 det

      almost there

      show winner

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      09-13-2012 12:57 PM #10
      Is there a creepy midget with a mask on in the background of that photo?
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      09-13-2012 01:33 PM #11
      Stone cold facts:

      a) I LOVE Datsun Roadsters, and I myself hope to have an SR or VG swapped one someday.

      b) You own my FAVORITE variation of the NA Miatas.

      c) I'm really torn on this decision.



      Luke warm opinion:

      If it were me, I'd throw money at the Miata, and only because of 25 years of additional chassis design/improvements. Both are drop dead gorgeous, both would be a blast to drive, and both would be super reliable (once the swap's bugs were ironed out).
      I'm just your local purveyor of Miata and Nissan Z-car fanboyism.

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      09-13-2012 02:15 PM #14
      Jeez Jeff. Why would you ever give up a 95 M in nice shape?

      Hell, I'd sell my '94 R Package to buy that from you.

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      09-13-2012 02:27 PM #15
      I have an employee that has a Datsun Roadster that he should sell as he does not take care of it, imo. I would purchase it myself if I wasn't already working on two different project vehicles.

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      09-13-2012 02:32 PM #16
      I picked up a roadster as a project, the M is going up for sale. I'll post some pics later after I get back from vacation, my 450 mile bicycle tour in Oregon is going well.
      & well played, Mr. Clarkson. That clown in the back of the shop is seriously freaky at night.
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      09-13-2012 02:58 PM #17
      Jeff, get the Datsun roadster. It'll make for some fun shop nights that we haven't done in a long time.
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      09-13-2012 03:08 PM #18
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      thats awesome

      and im by no means a convertible person...

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      09-13-2012 03:43 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by lagomorph View Post
      I picked up a roadster as a project...
      Huzzah!
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      09-13-2012 04:25 PM #20
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      What has been seen.


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      09-13-2012 04:29 PM #21
      I like my vintage Asian roadsters in the H variety...

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      09-13-2012 04:30 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Volvo_D View Post
      I like my vintage Asian roadsters in the H variety...

      They're cool, but I've never even seen one in the metal. Datsun Roadsters are a dime a dozen by comparison.
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      09-13-2012 04:31 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Volvo_D View Post
      I like my vintage Asian roadsters in the H variety...

      datsun wins.
      because aston-esque hood scoop.

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      09-18-2012 07:46 PM #25
      here's some pics of the one I picked up. rough body, but has 99.5% of the parts. And a slew of dash plaques from local competition events from the 70's. And it runs, but needs a fuel tank seal + brake system checkover. But after about 45 minutes of playing around, I got it running enough to drive it through the shop and park it in my stall. Hadn't been touched in 3 years.






      fortunately, the leak in the fuel tank probably saved the fuel system from being ruined. it's not a hole, but a weeping leak at the back corner of the tank. I'd like to find another body in a little better shape and just swap them for a better starting point. Both arches in the rear are rotten, the floors need redone, and the driver's door and front fender are both ready to be made back into something else made of inferior metal.
      Combine this with my 75 rabbit resto, and I've got no shortage of work to keep me busy over the winter.
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      09-18-2012 10:20 PM #26
      Rather odd looking hardtop. I'm sure those aren't easy to find though.
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      09-18-2012 10:41 PM #27
      cool find!
      dont forget to keep us updated as work progresses

      how much does a running example, that doesnt have too much rust go for?

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      Nice find! I hoped the hardtop would have saved the floor somewhat, too bad it didn't.
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      09-19-2012 12:45 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by 71DubBugBug View Post
      how much does a running example, that doesnt have too much rust go for?
      These cars can be had for $4-$7K, in decent shape, running well with no rust. $1000 for rusty busted examples, and $10K for a great car, or $15-$20K for something pristine, maybe more. Parts are available, not too expensive to restore. Our OP has some work to do but it will be a great car when he is done! He (and you) should check out the info on the forums and tech section of www.311s.org.

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      09-19-2012 11:17 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      These cars can be had for $4-$7K, in decent shape, running well with no rust. .
      that really doesnt sound too bad given how rarely you see these on the road

      that thing looks rough but complete

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      09-19-2012 11:36 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      that really doesnt sound too bad given how rarely you see these on the road

      that thing looks rough but complete
      yep not bad at all

      damn, now i want one

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      09-19-2012 01:01 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by lagomorph View Post
      here's some pics of the one I picked up.
      congrats on the purchase. Sorry to see it's a 68+ tall windshield

      If you're serious about an SR20 swap, IM me and you'll have to come down to the shop to see what you're in for.

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      damn, now i want one
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      I'm with this all day long and twice on Sundays.
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      I have nothing to add except I will be looking over my shoulder all night now.

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